MTFCMusings wrote:When you look at Dempster and Coughlans stints, Murray’s tenure can be viewed as average.
Perhaps would have been given more time to build had the Radfords not befriended Steve Evans.
As well as those mentioned above, also signed Vadaine Oliver, Billy Kee, Junior Brown, Matty Blair, CJ Hamilton. I believe he also had Ben Whiteman lined up prior to his sacking and Steve Evans went ahead with the deal anyway.
Herts Stag wrote:Looks like Parkinson doesn't like Muzza at all. The football was not as bad as that under Dempster or Coughlan they were truly disasterous appointments. Nothing could be that bad. He did a great job both times he took over the caretaker's role at Barnsley. He admitted he went too defensive and, as others have said, he did wonders on a very restricted budget and in the main without an Assistant Manager. He showed he has learned his lesson when caretaker. He was a legend as a player and his Job as manager came too soon. I think he would do you a very good job.
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I honestly think that Murray was the one we let get away. He signed some phenomenal players on a total shoestring of a budget and saved us from certain relegation. The two managers who followed spent a fortune on players yet relied on those signed by Murray as the backbone of their teams.
At the time of his sacking, our chairman was desperate for instant success and thought he could buy it with big name managers. We are still in the same league and it’s only now that we have Clough in charge that I am confident we will progress to the next level. If we had stuck with Murray and given him the same budget, I feel we would have made the progression to league one at least by now.
I have watched his time as caretaker manager at Barnsley on two occasions and each time he has left them better than when he took over. I would have welcomed him back at Mansfield before Nigel arrived and am sure that given a couple of seasons in charge of any league two club, he will get them in shape and moving forward.
So in summary no please don’t sign him as we don’t want another rival for next year’s promotion race.
Stan123 wrote:Vale fan in peace here.
After you well and truly tonked us the other day we are looking. For a new manager and Adam Murray has been mentioned.
Thoughts? What would we expect?
ST4GS wrote:Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I honestly think that Murray was the one we let get away. He signed some phenomenal players on a total shoestring of a budget and saved us from certain relegation. The two managers who followed spent a fortune on players yet relied on those signed by Murray as the backbone of their teams.
At the time of his sacking, our chairman was desperate for instant success and thought he could buy it with big name managers. We are still in the same league and it’s only now that we have Clough in charge that I am confident we will progress to the next level. If we had stuck with Murray and given him the same budget, I feel we would have made the progression to league one at least by now.
I have watched his time as caretaker manager at Barnsley on two occasions and each time he has left them better than when he took over. I would have welcomed him back at Mansfield before Nigel arrived and am sure that given a couple of seasons in charge of any league two club, he will get them in shape and moving forward.
So in summary no please don’t sign him as we don’t want another rival for next year’s promotion race.
Saved us from certain relegation?
I don't remember this.
He lost 9 of the last 10 league games that season winning the other in a 6 pointer v Tranmere.
Luckily there were two or three poorer sides who could not bridge the gap despite our collapse at the business end of the season.
adamstag wrote:Pretty much what Pear Cider said.
Played some decent attacking football to start, lost a decently big game at the time to Bristol Rovers at home 3-2 (we ended with 9, them with 10 - and despite the result was a belter of a game) and then lost his bottle sadly, to the detriment of call concerned.
It was a massive shame and rather a surprise as more of the attacking football he played would have reaped benefits. If he's learned from those mistakes he could well do a job - though if I were a Vale fan I wouldn't be so thrilled.
Probably more suited to a scouting role for me.
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