MTFCMusings wrote:Big yella wrote:Parkinsons Perm wrote:Dave Wayne wrote:Parkinsons Perm wrote:I sincerely hope they do give the lower figure to those that paid £350
Unprecedented times, forget previous years they're gone. The club needs us and you moan about 25 spunking quid and still can't get my head around you want a full refund when you didn't pay full !!!
If I was asking for that I'd be thoroughly ashamed, in no way shape or form is that acceptable.
I really don't give a toss what an anonymous person on an internet forum thinks of me when he knows very little about my personal circumstances.
But just for the record, all I actually did was politely answer somebody's question about the value of the potential refund with the 2 possible figures. You chose to turn it hostile by giving your opinion as to how much people should be getting when, unless you are a ST holder, it has sod all to do with you. I can only assume from your responses that you aren't an ST holder and you are one of these people who are bitter towards those of us that are.
You sad sad man.
I asked you how much the refund was and yes I felt hostile but that's just turned to pity.
They've given us a club to be proud of and you spit your dummy out over 25 poxy quid and want a refund to cover it and the extra even though you paid less, you couldn't make it up.
I pay full whack as I see that as really giving that bit extra to the club and I want nothing back in return except a club to support in these difficult times.
Bitter I'm certainly not of any ST holder as you wrongly assume.
Goodnight my pitiful friend, dream of your refund.
This.
Season ticket holders love to tell how they prop up the club financially, whilst putting in less than pay on the day every gamers, yet continually demanding extra for the privilege of getting paying less, and then whining it’s not enough when they get it.
A season ticket is a guaranteed lump sum for the club in advance, whether that season ticket holder attends a game or not. Hence they are rewarded for, in effect, blind loyalty, by being given a discount and certain benefits. This has been the case for years, and it shouldn’t come as a shock when season ticket holders are given priority.
A pay on the day every game is not a guaranteed customer. They could choose not to attend due to poor form, they could fall ill or have personal issues which mean they cannot attend through no fault of their own. Either way, that person is not making a guaranteed commitment to the club, in advance. If a person does attend more pay on the day games than the cost of a season ticket, that person should be bright enough, if their financial circumstances allow, to think about buying a season ticket. This is after all what the club encourages fans to do every summer. They want you to buy a season ticket.
A simple question. If clubs did not benefit financially from selling season tickets and receiving all those lump sums up front, why wouldn’t they make it pay on the day for everyone?
Billy the fish wrote:Sure I read an article from Ian Holloway that Not one Grimsby Fan has asked for a refund on season tickets.. just saying ..
Sneag wrote:The elephant in the room here is, for me, that this is an invitation to part with £375 for a product that is quite unlikely to be delivered.
Whilst it's great to help the club financially now. Where will it leave the club at the start of next season when the potential refund levels maybe at £200 a pop. The bigger that number gets, the more folk are going to start asking for their money back.
bellwhiff wrote:Whilst not a season ticket holder and unable to get to many home games, I still feel that I am entitled to my opinion. The club are getting in quality players and JR doesn’t have bottomless pockets. I know times are tight for everyone (I’m currently redundant) but I think the club are within their rights to hope that the supporters make an effort to help.
The One wrote:bellwhiff wrote:Whilst not a season ticket holder and unable to get to many home games, I still feel that I am entitled to my opinion. The club are getting in quality players and JR doesn’t have bottomless pockets. I know times are tight for everyone (I’m currently redundant) but I think the club are within their rights to hope that the supporters make an effort to help.
Sorry to hear about job
Billy the fish wrote:Sure I read an article from Ian Holloway that Not one Grimsby Fan has asked for a refund on season tickets.. just saying ..
Sedgwick wrote:Billy the fish wrote:Sure I read an article from Ian Holloway that Not one Grimsby Fan has asked for a refund on season tickets.. just saying ..
They have because I Know two who have done just that.
There will be many twists and turns for several months now. Given this uncertainty the club need to issue a statement giving an option of a pro-rata refund scheme for new season tickets as per last season, otherwise I can imagine subscription will be severely affected. We have around 2500 season ticket holders and space for around the same number taking account for reduced capacity. If lets say 30% do not renew (could be 50% as although we have many "I will pay anything to help the club and JR" these numbers will be <1000 ) due to no guarantee of potential refunds (and/or other reasons) then will this shortfall be uptaken by the non season ticket holders/casual fans who probably would not have bought a season ticket under normal circumstances anyway and should be less likely to for the new season? Some causal fans will buy one if it is the only option of attending matches but I am not sure the demand will be fully there if lets say £375 potentially/is likely to only get you 13 live games and 10 streaming passes? Then again JR is a master at marketing given his track record but time will be the judge on its success rating. It certainly is not the deal of the decade and if the only way of entering the ground is by means of a season ticket then if under subscribed another deal might be on the cards (after 3 games it might drop to £300 ish? etc)Dave Wayne wrote:The announcement this lunchtime that the lifting of some restrictions has been put back 2 weeks and that the trial of crowds at 'elite' events at Goodwood, The Oval, and The Crucible has been cancelled is potentially bad news for football to be played in front of crowds from 1st October.
ST4GS wrote:There will be many twists and turns for several months now. Given this uncertainty the club need to issue a statement giving an option of a pro-rata refund scheme for new season tickets as per last season, otherwise I can imagine subscription will be severely affected. We have around 2500 season ticket holders and space for around the same number taking account for reduced capacity. If lets say 30% do not renew (could be 50% as although we have many "I will pay anything to help the club and JR" these numbers will be <1000 ) due to no guarantee of potential refunds (and/or other reasons) then will this shortfall be uptaken by the non season ticket holders/casual fans who probably would not have bought a season ticket under normal circumstances anyway and should be less likely to for the new season? Some causal fans will buy one if it is the only option of attending matches but I am not sure the demand will be fully there if lets say £375 potentially/is likely to only get you 13 live games and 10 streaming passes? Then again JR is a master at marketing given his track record but time will be the judge on its success rating. It certainly is not the deal of the decade and if the only way of entering the ground is by means of a season ticket then if under subscribed another deal might be on the cards (after 3 games it might drop to £300 ish? etc)Dave Wayne wrote:The announcement this lunchtime that the lifting of some restrictions has been put back 2 weeks and that the trial of crowds at 'elite' events at Goodwood, The Oval, and The Crucible has been cancelled is potentially bad news for football to be played in front of crowds from 1st October.
Chander Lear wrote:ST4GS wrote:There will be many twists and turns for several months now. Given this uncertainty the club need to issue a statement giving an option of a pro-rata refund scheme for new season tickets as per last season, otherwise I can imagine subscription will be severely affected. We have around 2500 season ticket holders and space for around the same number taking account for reduced capacity. If lets say 30% do not renew (could be 50% as although we have many "I will pay anything to help the club and JR" these numbers will be <1000 ) due to no guarantee of potential refunds (and/or other reasons) then will this shortfall be uptaken by the non season ticket holders/casual fans who probably would not have bought a season ticket under normal circumstances anyway and should be less likely to for the new season? Some causal fans will buy one if it is the only option of attending matches but I am not sure the demand will be fully there if lets say £375 potentially/is likely to only get you 13 live games and 10 streaming passes? Then again JR is a master at marketing given his track record but time will be the judge on its success rating. It certainly is not the deal of the decade and if the only way of entering the ground is by means of a season ticket then if under subscribed another deal might be on the cards (after 3 games it might drop to £300 ish? etc)Dave Wayne wrote:The announcement this lunchtime that the lifting of some restrictions has been put back 2 weeks and that the trial of crowds at 'elite' events at Goodwood, The Oval, and The Crucible has been cancelled is potentially bad news for football to be played in front of crowds from 1st October.
Exactly that. I'm going game by game basis this year. I missed 5 home games last season for various reasons, on top of the end 6. Season ticket just isnt viable. With the the added uncertainty its going to be tough times
The One wrote:Off topic but Beeb site for Nottingham reporting arrest of burglars who targetted high end properties across the country.
Raheem Sterling, Vince Dale and Mansfield Town owner John Radford.
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:One of the burglars (Mee)was chief executive of a high profile Liverpool demolition company with a multi million pound turnover. Some folks just aren't satisfied are they?
It's not the first time the Mansfield area has been targeted by Liverpool's sophisticated travelling burglars. In the late 80's early 90's The High Oakham and Coxmoor Road areas were blighted with burglaries by one of the groups
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:One of the burglars (Mee)was chief executive of a high profile Liverpool demolition company with a multi million pound turnover. Some folks just aren't satisfied are they?
It's not the first time the Mansfield area has been targeted by Liverpool's sophisticated travelling burglars. In the late 80's early 90's The High Oakham and Coxmoor Road areas were blighted with burglaries by one of the groups
Oak Tree Stag wrote:Not sure if i'm missing something here but...........
Folk are wanting a pro rata refund on the 6 games missed last season, which works out at £91.30 if you paid £350 for a ST
This is because the Club have upped the ST price to £375.
So they want to fund a £25 increase by taking a (potential) £91.03 refund
For me it's a strange way of supporting the Club you so passionately claim to love
It's a good job John Radford has extremely deep pockets. We most certainly wouldn't have the Club we do now without him.
And I do understand that you may pay your £375 and not see a game in the ground this season
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