sunray wrote:I fear the Peter principle - promoted to one job above your ability
But you have to remember Alex Ferguson was one game from being sacked for poor results until he won the 1990 FA Cup Final.
So let's get behind CR and JR by giving him our full support. They are not stupid and will take the right decision at the right time for the good of the club.
We need to get off JD back and support the club. The club needs to give JD support in the form of an experianced mentor or bring back Ben Futcher on the coaching staff who was there when they went through with twelve games with only 2 wins and ended in the playoffs
WVStag wrote:sunray wrote:I fear the Peter principle - promoted to one job above your ability
But you have to remember Alex Ferguson was one game from being sacked for poor results until he won the 1990 FA Cup Final.
So let's get behind CR and JR by giving him our full support. They are not stupid and will take the right decision at the right time for the good of the club.
We need to get off JD back and support the club. The club needs to give JD support in the form of an experianced mentor or bring back Ben Futcher on the coaching staff who was there when they went through with twelve games with only 2 wins and ended in the playoffs
Eyes are stinging.
sunray wrote:I fear the Peter principle - promoted to one job above your ability
But you have to remember Alex Ferguson was one game from being sacked for poor results until he won the 1990 FA Cup Final.
So let's get behind CR and JR by giving him our full support. They are not stupid and will take the right decision at the right time for the good of the club.
We need to get off JD back and support the club. The club needs to give JD support in the form of an experianced mentor or bring back Ben Futcher on the coaching staff who was there when they went through with twelve games with only 2 wins and ended in the playoffs
Sedgwick wrote:A lot of clubs who have promoted from within are doing well now but didn't to begin with.... Artell at crewe is a good example who's brought their youth through and they are flying. Dempster job is probably to do the same, not go out and buy all the top top players but bring through our own in the next couple of years... Just have to wait and see.
Sedgwick wrote:A lot of clubs who have promoted from within are doing well now but didn't to begin with.... Artell at crewe is a good example who's brought their youth through and they are flying. Dempster job is probably to do the same, not go out and buy all the top top players but bring through our own in the next couple of years... Just have to wait and see.
MTFCMusings wrote:There's no chance he'll be here by January. He isn't going to pick up the points required. If he is, God help us.
No Breaks Allowed wrote:Sedgwick wrote:A lot of clubs who have promoted from within are doing well now but didn't to begin with.... Artell at crewe is a good example who's brought their youth through and they are flying. Dempster job is probably to do the same, not go out and buy all the top top players but bring through our own in the next couple of years... Just have to wait and see.
Hymas alluded to this a couple of months back, about Crewe’s model and how they like it, and not chopping and changing managers all time. Which is fine, if that’s the message from the beginning of the season, however, the promotion and top 3 budget has been the message.
Sedgwick wrote:No Breaks Allowed wrote:Sedgwick wrote:A lot of clubs who have promoted from within are doing well now but didn't to begin with.... Artell at crewe is a good example who's brought their youth through and they are flying. Dempster job is probably to do the same, not go out and buy all the top top players but bring through our own in the next couple of years... Just have to wait and see.
Hymas alluded to this a couple of months back, about Crewe’s model and how they like it, and not chopping and changing managers all time. Which is fine, if that’s the message from the beginning of the season, however, the promotion and top 3 budget has been the message.
Agreed but no cub would say they're going into a season and not trying to get promoted.
bobbystagsfan wrote:Sedgwick wrote:No Breaks Allowed wrote:Sedgwick wrote:A lot of clubs who have promoted from within are doing well now but didn't to begin with.... Artell at crewe is a good example who's brought their youth through and they are flying. Dempster job is probably to do the same, not go out and buy all the top top players but bring through our own in the next couple of years... Just have to wait and see.
Hymas alluded to this a couple of months back, about Crewe’s model and how they like it, and not chopping and changing managers all time. Which is fine, if that’s the message from the beginning of the season, however, the promotion and top 3 budget has been the message.
Agreed but no cub would say they're going into a season and not trying to get promoted.
bang on Sedgwick, everyone would be fuming at a lack of ambition if the board said we are trying to get youth players through and not aim for promotion especially as we've been going for it the past 2 seasons
S7AGS wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:There's no chance he'll be here by January. He isn't going to pick up the points required. If he is, God help us.
Its like we are in a living nightmare lol
Everyone knows he's going 'soon' but we seem to be trying to inflict as much long term damage as possible before we make the move...needs to happen before we are in the transfer window not half way through it.
I'm almost dreading us picking up a point in the next few games as bad as it sounds as its just going to delay the inevitable
AlanStag wrote:Why are people talking about Crewe and Artell like they are some sort of Galaticos? I'm not so sure about aspiring to be them.
They currently sit 5th and have achieved nothing this season, they could drop like a stone and even finish below or close to us come May. It's easy to fall for a bit of early season hype and lose sight that they were a mid table side for the past two years.
gavinbrookes wrote:I'm sorry but the comparison with Artell is just not applicable.
Dempster has shown nothing to suggest he is a manager, let alone one worth being patient for. We should have been patient with Flitcroft who was proven. If we are to go down the Artell route we should have done that with Murray. He is a club legend, made good signings and showed potential on a relatively tight budget. I wish we'd have backed him and then shown patience. Everything at this club is done back-to-front and counter-intuitively.
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