cassellswasmagic wrote:Back on topic though, 9 points behind isn’t un-achievable if we hire the right manager!!!
All we need is our mojo back, its been missing since pre season.
cassellswasmagic wrote:Back on topic though, 9 points behind isn’t un-achievable if we hire the right manager!!!
WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Perhaps one of you can explain to me how booing, the team you support, after a win, is positive in any way ? What is it actually meant to achieve ?
I'm not suggesting you clap if you don't think the performance is up to scratch. Do what I do walk away in silence. If there is a lack of applause, the manager and players will get the message. Booing in those circumstances is counter productive and causes devision. The clubs that succeed are the ones where everyone is pulling together.
Imagine in your job ( whatever it may be ), achieving the desired end product and all you get is abuse.
The players will be quite rightly thinking we've worked hard to get into the next round, and be gobsmacked at some of the crowds reaction.
Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Perhaps one of you can explain to me how booing, the team you support, after a win, is positive in any way ? What is it actually meant to achieve ?
I'm not suggesting you clap if you don't think the performance is up to scratch. Do what I do walk away in silence. If there is a lack of applause, the manager and players will get the message. Booing in those circumstances is counter productive and causes devision. The clubs that succeed are the ones where everyone is pulling together.
Imagine in your job ( whatever it may be ), achieving the desired end product and all you get is abuse.
The players will be quite rightly thinking we've worked hard to get into the next round, and be gobsmacked at some of the crowds reaction.
Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Perhaps one of you can explain to me how booing, the team you support, after a win, is positive in any way ? What is it actually meant to achieve ?
I'm not suggesting you clap if you don't think the performance is up to scratch. Do what I do walk away in silence. If there is a lack of applause, the manager and players will get the message. Booing in those circumstances is counter productive and causes devision. The clubs that succeed are the ones where everyone is pulling together.
Imagine in your job ( whatever it may be ), achieving the desired end product and all you get is abuse.
The players will be quite rightly thinking we've worked hard to get into the next round, and be gobsmacked at some of the crowds reaction.
Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Perhaps one of you can explain to me how booing, the team you support, after a win, is positive in any way ? What is it actually meant to achieve ?
I'm not suggesting you clap if you don't think the performance is up to scratch. Do what I do walk away in silence. If there is a lack of applause, the manager and players will get the message. Booing in those circumstances is counter productive and causes devision. The clubs that succeed are the ones where everyone is pulling together.
Imagine in your job ( whatever it may be ), achieving the desired end product and all you get is abuse.
The players will be quite rightly thinking we've worked hard to get into the next round, and be gobsmacked at some of the crowds reaction.
adamstag wrote:Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Perhaps one of you can explain to me how booing, the team you support, after a win, is positive in any way ? What is it actually meant to achieve ?
I'm not suggesting you clap if you don't think the performance is up to scratch. Do what I do walk away in silence. If there is a lack of applause, the manager and players will get the message. Booing in those circumstances is counter productive and causes devision. The clubs that succeed are the ones where everyone is pulling together.
Imagine in your job ( whatever it may be ), achieving the desired end product and all you get is abuse.
The players will be quite rightly thinking we've worked hard to get into the next round, and be gobsmacked at some of the crowds reaction.
In the context it was pretty understandable.
It was a desperate performance, and we were highly fortunate to win - against a side who were bottom of the conference. A performance that would have seen us lost to basically anyone in league 2. Starting with 3 defensive midfielders at home as well?
Added to that the home form and performances have been terrible it was probably one out of frustration than anything else.
In the context I could understand why folk booed. Though of course I can see why people who are a bit more happy clappy wouldn’t get it either
The One wrote:cassellswasmagic wrote:Back on topic though, 9 points behind isn’t un-achievable if we hire the right manager!!!
All we need is our mojo back, its been missing since pre season.
Amber Andy wrote:adamstag wrote:Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Perhaps one of you can explain to me how booing, the team you support, after a win, is positive in any way ? What is it actually meant to achieve ?
I'm not suggesting you clap if you don't think the performance is up to scratch. Do what I do walk away in silence. If there is a lack of applause, the manager and players will get the message. Booing in those circumstances is counter productive and causes devision. The clubs that succeed are the ones where everyone is pulling together.
Imagine in your job ( whatever it may be ), achieving the desired end product and all you get is abuse.
The players will be quite rightly thinking we've worked hard to get into the next round, and be gobsmacked at some of the crowds reaction.
In the context it was pretty understandable.
It was a desperate performance, and we were highly fortunate to win - against a side who were bottom of the conference. A performance that would have seen us lost to basically anyone in league 2. Starting with 3 defensive midfielders at home as well?
Added to that the home form and performances have been terrible it was probably one out of frustration than anything else.
In the context I could understand why folk booed. Though of course I can see why people who are a bit more happy clappy wouldn’t get it either
Well thanks for explaining why some booed ( although I still think walking away in silence would have got the message over just as well ).
You've not explained what positive outcome booing has achieved?
Amber Andy wrote:Ok Adamstag we all do things differently.
I just think it's not helping the team you obviously support.
Amber Andy wrote:Ok Adamstag we all do things differently.
I just think it's not helping the team you obviously support.
ok if that's how you want to express your frustration.Chrisuknottm wrote:Amber Andy wrote:Ok Adamstag we all do things differently.
I just think it's not helping the team you obviously support.
It's not meant to help. For those that did it it meant showing the players the performance wasn't acceptable / that it was the latest of an unacceptable series of dross home performances / that the expectations were for the Chorley game to be a chance to energise the club / that they weren't happy with a lot of things at the club. It's criticism Andy......it's not meant to be like a school sports day where everyone isn't a loser but no one comes first. It's professional sport for heavens sake.
Amber Andy wrote:ok if that's how you want to express your frustration.Chrisuknottm wrote:Amber Andy wrote:Ok Adamstag we all do things differently.
I just think it's not helping the team you obviously support.
It's not meant to help. For those that did it it meant showing the players the performance wasn't acceptable / that it was the latest of an unacceptable series of dross home performances / that the expectations were for the Chorley game to be a chance to energise the club / that they weren't happy with a lot of things at the club. It's criticism Andy......it's not meant to be like a school sports day where everyone isn't a loser but no one comes first. It's professional sport for heavens sake.
WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Dan wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Really? Let’s use Musings example above your post. He said Blackburn got booed off on Saturday having beaten Barnsley 3-2. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know. But this is what Tony Mowbray said afterwards: "It was all about getting three points. That's what we talked about, not about performance levels, but just trying to get three points. I think it was a really dangerous game for us”.
So there you go. I’d rather believe someone of Tony Mowbray’s experience in the game than a fan of a League Two Club with no experience in the professional game.
Dan wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Really? Let’s use Musings example above your post. He said Blackburn got booed off on Saturday having beaten Barnsley 3-2. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know. But this is what Tony Mowbray said afterwards: "It was all about getting three points. That's what we talked about, not about performance levels, but just trying to get three points. I think it was a really dangerous game for us”.
So there you go. I’d rather believe someone of Tony Mowbray’s experience in the game than a fan of a League Two Club with no experience in the professional game.
Dan wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Really? Let’s use Musings example above your post. He said Blackburn got booed off on Saturday having beaten Barnsley 3-2. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know. But this is what Tony Mowbray said afterwards: "It was all about getting three points. That's what we talked about, not about performance levels, but just trying to get three points. I think it was a really dangerous game for us”.
So there you go. I’d rather believe someone of Tony Mowbray’s experience in the game than a fan of a League Two Club with no experience in the professional game.
WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Really? Let’s use Musings example above your post. He said Blackburn got booed off on Saturday having beaten Barnsley 3-2. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know. But this is what Tony Mowbray said afterwards: "It was all about getting three points. That's what we talked about, not about performance levels, but just trying to get three points. I think it was a really dangerous game for us”.
So there you go. I’d rather believe someone of Tony Mowbray’s experience in the game than a fan of a League Two Club with no experience in the professional game.
Didn't expect that of you Dan, to use cliched, managerial soundbites like 'it's 3 points and that's all that matters' in attempting to prove your wrong opinion right
Also, do I not have experience in the professional game?
Cleveland_Stag wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:WVStag wrote:Dan wrote:Spot on Andy. At the end of the day the team were booed off after a WIN. The rest of it is immaterial. The job was done. How it was done is irrelevant.
The rest is NOT immaterial, far from it and how it was done is certainly relevant. To suggest otherwise points to clear lack of comprehension for perspective in football. Examining a result in isolation and disregarding the context around it is not the smartest thing to do.
Really? Let’s use Musings example above your post. He said Blackburn got booed off on Saturday having beaten Barnsley 3-2. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know. But this is what Tony Mowbray said afterwards: "It was all about getting three points. That's what we talked about, not about performance levels, but just trying to get three points. I think it was a really dangerous game for us”.
So there you go. I’d rather believe someone of Tony Mowbray’s experience in the game than a fan of a League Two Club with no experience in the professional game.
Didn't expect that of you Dan, to use cliched, managerial soundbites like 'it's 3 points and that's all that matters' in attempting to prove your wrong opinion right
Also, do I not have experience in the professional game?
Blackburn also didn’t scrape past a part time team bottom of the league below, and start 3 defensive midfielders against them at home.
Cleveland_Stag wrote:Dress it up however you like Edwinstowe, the fact is against a bottom 4 part time conference team at HOME, we started 3 (3 for crying out loud!) defensive midfielders and barely carved out a single chance until we scored late on.
Wouldn’t you agree that it was totally unacceptable, from the performance to the team selection itself?
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