pemill wrote:Is Dempster being very clever with the pre-season, simply using it to get game time for all the players, not showing his hand to the rest of L2. As yet he hasn't played, what I would call the strongest starting X1 together.
I was fairly non plus with what I saw at Alfreton but was particularly happy with Khan & Benning when they came on. Similarly so in the first half against Blackburn, although I have to say they were a class apart and gave us a lesson in one touch football, whilst we didn't get many opportunities I liked the way Cook won headers & held the ball up, Bish looked fit and chased everything as he does and Logan made some good saves to keep us in it. 2nd half was better, Khan impressed again as did Danny, of course it was great to see Hayden back.
Right now, I'm not sure what style we will play, if we keep it under wraps until 3/8 then that's probably a master stroke.,
adamstag wrote:As we’ve found out in both seasons under flitcroft it’s the slow finish you don’t want! Slow starts can be turned around as Paul cox proved
adamstag wrote:As we’ve found out in both seasons under flitcroft it’s the slow finish you don’t want! Slow starts can be turned around as Paul cox proved
Sedgwick wrote:adamstag wrote:As we’ve found out in both seasons under flitcroft it’s the slow finish you don’t want! Slow starts can be turned around as Paul cox proved
I think it was Exeter a few seasons ago that were bottom after 15 games and ended up in the play offs
FarnieStag wrote:I'm enthusiastic for the season ahead.
The stubborn Flitcroft fans are already sharpening their "told you so" knives. Seems incredibly early to gloat.
I'm well and truly in the Flitcroft doubters camp (along with John Radford!), and happy to declare before a ball has even been kicked that we'll have a much better season with Dempster than the last two under Flitcroft. Even though JD has zero experience he'll still do better that Flitcroft (let's face it, we'd have won more points at the end of the past few seasons with Homer Simpson in charge).
Chrisuknottm wrote:Totally underwhelmed and my view is that JD will only have until Christmas and if we are in the bottom 6 by then he will be gone. JR/CR will not sit by and watch us go the way of Notts County. I have my doubts that a rookie, untried manager promoted from managing the kids will be able to motivate the first team and take them with him.
MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:Chrisuknottm wrote:Totally underwhelmed and my view is that JD will only have until Christmas and if we are in the bottom 6 by then he will be gone. JR/CR will not sit by and watch us go the way of Notts County. I have my doubts that a rookie, untried manager promoted from managing the kids will be able to motivate the first team and take them with him.
If that happens then it'll be our 4th managerial appointment in just over 3 years. That sounds VERY Notts County to me bud.
No disrespect to JD, but I'm puzzled by Jr's strategy on this. I suspect Dempsey will be given more time and patience to imprint his brand of football, unless of course it all goes horribly wrong and Jr's hand is forced.
I think we'll do OK, not relegation, but not chasing down the leaders either
Jimstag wrote:I'm looking forward to next season. Preseason is always difficult to judge, it only really matters how you play when there are points to play for and as many say it doesn't really matter how or when they come.
I think Dempster is being clever, despite switching the starting team he's playing certain players together consistently and building an understanding without giving away his main team. I think we'll have to play it soon to check things are going to plan ahead of the big day.
I'm expecting us to be around the top 7 this year, we've kept the bulk of the players that got us close last year and added Maynard and Cook for the goals we lost when Walker did and provide a player able to hold the ball at that end of the pitch. I also like that we've played a couple of systems and seem to have some tough decisions on which players make the first 11, we'll see if Dempster is tactically savvy enough to make the most of it.
So I've gone from meh a couple of weeks ago to wanting the season to get started.
NorthLondonStag wrote:adamstag wrote:As we’ve found out in both seasons under flitcroft it’s the slow finish you don’t want! Slow starts can be turned around as Paul cox proved
Somebody else posted something similar, but could someone explain on what basis this makes sense.
Promotion requires roughly 80 points in a season. It doesn't matter when you get the points. If you win the first 28 games and lose the last 18 then you probably go up. If, like Paul Cox, you take 30 posts or so from the first 20 games (I can't remember exactly) and then win 19 on the bounce then you go up too.
Slow finishes are no worse than slow starts over the same number of games - it's 3 points for every win.
I don't like it when managers fall for this because it means they aren't hungry for points early in the season, because they think they can always make it up later. But a win on the first day of the season is worth the same three points as it is on the last, it's just that those 3 points seem more important at the time because you have to win then to get promoted.
We should be going for maximum points from the off, and then for every single game, then if you've amassed enough points (like Luton last season in League 1) you can more easily afford to have a relatively poor finish.
adamstag wrote:NorthLondonStag wrote:adamstag wrote:As we’ve found out in both seasons under flitcroft it’s the slow finish you don’t want! Slow starts can be turned around as Paul cox proved
Somebody else posted something similar, but could someone explain on what basis this makes sense.
Promotion requires roughly 80 points in a season. It doesn't matter when you get the points. If you win the first 28 games and lose the last 18 then you probably go up. If, like Paul Cox, you take 30 posts or so from the first 20 games (I can't remember exactly) and then win 19 on the bounce then you go up too.
Slow finishes are no worse than slow starts over the same number of games - it's 3 points for every win.
I don't like it when managers fall for this because it means they aren't hungry for points early in the season, because they think they can always make it up later. But a win on the first day of the season is worth the same three points as it is on the last, it's just that those 3 points seem more important at the time because you have to win then to get promoted.
We should be going for maximum points from the off, and then for every single game, then if you've amassed enough points (like Luton last season in League 1) you can more easily afford to have a relatively poor finish.
Correct. But if you don't have a decent start then the finish is irrelevant. That's my point. Yes he did mess it up. Very badly!
The problem being is whereas as you point out it doesn’t matter how you get the points you need you get them. The problem being is that you fall out of form like we did when it mattered - you’re buggered.
Ultimately we should be in league 1 right now. How he achieved that raspberry up at the end was a raspberry up
FarnieStag wrote:I'm enthusiastic for the season ahead.
The stubborn Flitcroft fans are already sharpening their "told you so" knives. Seems incredibly early to gloat.
I'm well and truly in the Flitcroft doubters camp (along with John Radford!), and happy to declare before a ball has even been kicked that we'll have a much better season with Dempster than the last two under Flitcroft. Even though JD has zero experience he'll still do better that Flitcroft (let's face it, we'd have won more points at the end of the past few seasons with Homer Simpson in charge).
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