Field Mill wrote:Amber Andy wrote:You are a tease !Conker wrote:He’s not been successful for a while, football is very fickle and the only proper success is his promotion with big spending Bury (shame he didn’t manage that for us)
I don’t think JR is very good at all at appointing managers, the only success was Paul Cox and he’s been here ten? years now.
Sorry to upset the pro-Flitcroft apple cart Andy, it’s a tough old world.
But seriously finishing fourth, one point from promotion and loosing on penalties in the playoff semi final and you don't count that as success? Ask fans from any other club about the sacking of DF and 90% will say it was madness.
I don't particularly want to get on that subject, but ask yourself if as you say he is SERIOUSLY not rated in the football world, why is he on Doncaster's shortlist of three?
Come on Andy. The surrender in his first season was a disgrace. Anyone with a Level 1 coaching badge could have got us into the Play Offs from that position. Last time out? Huge budget and tailed off in the last twelve to a pathetic extent. No manager has ever had money on that scale since our return and his caution was pathetic. Nice guy fine, but not a manager. 'Respect the point' is fine when you've not had the money he got but woeful when you are backed to the extent he was. And let's not go there on his January dealings...
Berryhillstagno1 wrote:Northampton away last season springs to mind, painful to watch, for all, we're bullied into the long ball.
DogsDoDahs wrote:Thanks to god he has gone and wont be missed. It was not the fault of the players for the failures of the last two seasons. It was 100% the fault of an inept manager who played negative tactics from around xmas by fielding one recognised striker. They are facts. Dont count Hamilton as a striker because he is a left winger. Before xmas he was playing two strikers and the team were picking up good points. After that Floppy played one striker and the goals and points dried up and it cost him his job. Had he been manager this year many fans would only have attended certain games only, rather than as seasons ticket holders. Now Demps has been appointed those same fans have renewed season tickets and can see this season will be positive for the whole season. Dont blame injuries or suspensions he failed because he had the wrong 11 players on the pitch from the kick off after xmas playing hoof ball to an isolated single striker who did his best. It was a system designed to fail and it did.
Rob wrote:DogsDoDahs wrote:Thanks to god he has gone and wont be missed. It was not the fault of the players for the failures of the last two seasons. It was 100% the fault of an inept manager who played negative tactics from around xmas by fielding one recognised striker. They are facts. Dont count Hamilton as a striker because he is a left winger. Before xmas he was playing two strikers and the team were picking up good points. After that Floppy played one striker and the goals and points dried up and it cost him his job. Had he been manager this year many fans would only have attended certain games only, rather than as seasons ticket holders. Now Demps has been appointed those same fans have renewed season tickets and can see this season will be positive for the whole season. Dont blame injuries or suspensions he failed because he had the wrong 11 players on the pitch from the kick off after xmas playing hoof ball to an isolated single striker who did his best. It was a system designed to fail and it did.
Not sure about dogsdodahs more like dogdo How to reinvent what really happened in one easy lesson - it will be interesting to see how JD gets on this season, one thing for sure, the knives will be out by many if we aren't top 3.
bobbystagsfan wrote:If we don't go up this year, will we sack Dempster and go for a new manager? Or will he be allowed more time due to his lack of experience?
Sneag wrote:bobbystagsfan wrote:If we don't go up this year, will we sack Dempster and go for a new manager? Or will he be allowed more time due to his lack of experience?
Again that will entirely depends on the expectations of his employer. 'We' won't be sacking anyone.
bobbystagsfan wrote:If we don't go up this year, will we sack Dempster and go for a new manager? Or will he be allowed more time due to his lack of experience?
part time pete wrote:Can’t understand why folk say he didn’t have a plan B.
Considering he played CJ all over the pitch in several different positions in the the same game, then I suggest he had play B, C and D.
ParisStag wrote:I don't think there was much wrong with his tactics, style of play or man management. The football was mostly good to watch, the defence he built was probably the best I've ever seen (which vindicates the formation and tactics) and the dressing-room was in good spirits.
People will criticise his ability to get them up for big occasions, which I think is fair, but for me, his biggest flaw came in transfers, which I am assuming were down to him. Not signing the other striker we needed to get us over the line was fatal. Bringing in Grant and upsetting the balance of the team was also probably a major error. He was undropable after his good start and the reputation he brought. If he had been more savvy in the market, we would have gone up. Fine lines, but he's far from the worst manager we've had and no where near as bad as Swindon or Bury fans made out.
People learn things in life and get better. I expect he will have learned from his mistakes here and will take the good parts with him. There's no reason why, given the right support, he won't be a success at Donny or wherever he goes.
Dan wrote:Jesus Christ, in the last 16 games of the season (Feb-May) we only got one more point than Notts County & they were shocking. Why can't people see it!!? The man completely bottled it like he did the previous season & deserved sacking.
Dan wrote:Jesus Christ, in the last 16 games of the season (Feb-May) we only got one more point than Notts County & they were shocking. Why can't people see it!!? The man completely bottled it like he did the previous season & deserved sacking.
ParisStag wrote:Dan wrote:Jesus Christ, in the last 16 games of the season (Feb-May) we only got one more point than Notts County & they were shocking. Why can't people see it!!? The man completely bottled it like he did the previous season & deserved sacking.
I'm not saying he didn't bottle it. He clearly did. What I'm saying is, there were lots of positives to last season, despite the ultimate negative, and that he will take that with him and his experience will strengthen him.
Do I agree that he deserved to be sacked? No.
Was I upset that he was sacked? No.
Dan wrote:ParisStag wrote:Dan wrote:Jesus Christ, in the last 16 games of the season (Feb-May) we only got one more point than Notts County & they were shocking. Why can't people see it!!? The man completely bottled it like he did the previous season & deserved sacking.
I'm not saying he didn't bottle it. He clearly did. What I'm saying is, there were lots of positives to last season, despite the ultimate negative, and that he will take that with him and his experience will strengthen him.
Do I agree that he deserved to be sacked? No.
Was I upset that he was sacked? No.
I give up.
ParisStag wrote:Dan wrote:Jesus Christ, in the last 16 games of the season (Feb-May) we only got one more point than Notts County & they were shocking. Why can't people see it!!? The man completely bottled it like he did the previous season & deserved sacking.
I'm not saying he didn't bottle it. He clearly did. What I'm saying is, there were lots of positives to last season, despite the ultimate negative, and that he will take that with him and his experience will strengthen him.
Do I agree that he deserved to be sacked? No.
Was I upset that he was sacked? No.
James wrote:Dan wrote:ParisStag wrote:Dan wrote:Jesus Christ, in the last 16 games of the season (Feb-May) we only got one more point than Notts County & they were shocking. Why can't people see it!!? The man completely bottled it like he did the previous season & deserved sacking.
I'm not saying he didn't bottle it. He clearly did. What I'm saying is, there were lots of positives to last season, despite the ultimate negative, and that he will take that with him and his experience will strengthen him.
Do I agree that he deserved to be sacked? No.
Was I upset that he was sacked? No.
I give up.
Delete your account whilst you're giving up.
Son Of Sherwood wrote:I don't get it.
In two consecutive seasons with a truckload of investment (in many areas, not just the playing staff) Mansfield Town FC completely blew up what were promotion positions. The latter of which was obtaining one point from three games. Say what you like, that is indefensible, whoever the manager might have been.
He's gone and rightly so.
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