west country stag wrote:CJ needs shipping out , overrated imo as he blows hot & cold ... & we can do better than him !
west country stag wrote:CJ needs shipping out , overrated imo as he blows hot & cold ... & we can do better than him !
west country stag wrote:CJ needs shipping out , overrated imo as he blows hot & cold ... & we can do better than him !
bobbystagsfan wrote:west country stag wrote:CJ needs shipping out , overrated imo as he blows hot & cold ... & we can do better than him !
the lad scored 14 goals and was played in about 4 different positions every game. That's not overrated to me, behind walker he was our biggest goal threat.
as for the blows hot and cold, have you never watched league 2 football before? that's like every player who's in this league, and the ones who just blow hot don't stay here for long. you say we can do better, let's hear some names then
SidneyOttewell wrote:Someone from Charlton Athletic watching CJ in the play-off second leg. Came straight from their win at Doncaster.....left after 90 mins.
I am Spartacus wrote:SidneyOttewell wrote:Someone from Charlton Athletic watching CJ in the play-off second leg. Came straight from their win at Doncaster.....left after 90 mins.
Sid, any chance it could be a ground hopper with public transport connections?
Vice President wrote:I can't believe that some people are doubting Tyler Walker & CJ Hamilton. They were our two best goal scorers and were also in the league 2 team of the season. The fact is that Walker (and probably CJ) will move on to higher clubs, because they are better than league 2.
Meanwhile, some people have this absurd love-in with Danny Rose and Macca, who quite frankly are not good enough (as evidenced by the last 2 years). I know which two players I'd like to keep and which two I'd be happy to move on.
Vice President wrote:I can't believe that some people are doubting Tyler Walker & CJ Hamilton. They were our two best goal scorers and were also in the league 2 team of the season. The fact is that Walker (and probably CJ) will move on to higher clubs, because they are better than league 2.
Meanwhile, some people have this absurd love-in with Danny Rose and Macca, who quite frankly are not good enough (as evidenced by the last 2 years). I know which two players I'd like to keep and which two I'd be happy to move on.
Actually what I said was we missed a Jamie McGuire type player, someone with his tanicity but more skill. I still maintain we missed someone who was in the face of the opposition with a never say die attitude. Someone like Perkins and Ladabie. Someone with the grit and determination to achieve the objective. The way McGuire put his heart and soul into his play and helped us avoid relegation not so long ago. Bishop did that for us during the season to a certain extent, but ran out of steam towards the end. Unfortunately we didn't have a back up.MTFCMusings wrote:Vice President wrote:I can't believe that some people are doubting Tyler Walker & CJ Hamilton. They were our two best goal scorers and were also in the league 2 team of the season. The fact is that Walker (and probably CJ) will move on to higher clubs, because they are better than league 2.
Meanwhile, some people have this absurd love-in with Danny Rose and Macca, who quite frankly are not good enough (as evidenced by the last 2 years). I know which two players I'd like to keep and which two I'd be happy to move on.
Correct VP.
Someone on here was also talking nostalgically about Jamie McGuire, saying he would have made the difference between play-offs and automatics.
Amber Andy wrote:Actually what I said was we missed a Jamie McGuire type player, someone with his tanicity but more skill. I still maintain we missed someone who was in the face of the opposition with a never say die attitude. Someone like Perkins and Ladabie. Someone with the grit and determination to achieve the objective. The way McGuire put his heart and soul into his play and helped us avoid relegation not so long ago. Bishop did that for us during the season to a certain extent, but ran out of steam towards the end. Unfortunately we didn't have a back up.MTFCMusings wrote:Vice President wrote:I can't believe that some people are doubting Tyler Walker & CJ Hamilton. They were our two best goal scorers and were also in the league 2 team of the season. The fact is that Walker (and probably CJ) will move on to higher clubs, because they are better than league 2.
Meanwhile, some people have this absurd love-in with Danny Rose and Macca, who quite frankly are not good enough (as evidenced by the last 2 years). I know which two players I'd like to keep and which two I'd be happy to move on.
Correct VP.
Someone on here was also talking nostalgically about Jamie McGuire, saying he would have made the difference between play-offs and automatics.
I don't mind you quoting me, but please do it more accurately.
Vice President wrote:I can't believe that some people are doubting Tyler Walker & CJ Hamilton. They were our two best goal scorers and were also in the league 2 team of the season. The fact is that Walker (and probably CJ) will move on to higher clubs, because they are better than league 2.
Meanwhile, some people have this absurd love-in with Danny Rose and Macca, who quite frankly are not good enough (as evidenced by the last 2 years). I know which two players I'd like to keep and which two I'd be happy to move on.
arsene wengers coat wrote:I don't 'doubt' their abilities. We know that when both of them are on form they are quality..
For me I'm just disappointed that for large parts of the season both CJ and Walker went missing.
Despite walker's goals, which you simply can not argue with, he just seemed to float about the place. CJ was Flitcrofts pet so was played in every position conceivable before being replaced which was sometimes the last option. The fact is that these two were potentially our 'game changers'. But for me they didn't have the impact they should have. Now whether that's down to tactics or because we lacked a 'Davies type' player is open to debate.
I don't think anyone is a hard-line 'they were rubbish' or 'they were amazing'. I'm somewhere in between.
arsene wengers coat wrote:I don't 'doubt' their abilities. We know that when both of them are on form they are quality..
For me I'm just disappointed that for large parts of the season both CJ and Walker went missing.
Despite walker's goals, which you simply can not argue with, he just seemed to float about the place. CJ was Flitcrofts pet so was played in every position conceivable before being replaced which was sometimes the last option. The fact is that these two were potentially our 'game changers'. But for me they didn't have the impact they should have. Now whether that's down to tactics or because we lacked a 'Davies type' player is open to debate.
I don't think anyone is a hard-line 'they were rubbish' or 'they were amazing'. I'm somewhere in between.
MTFCMusings wrote:Vice President wrote:I can't believe that some people are doubting Tyler Walker & CJ Hamilton. They were our two best goal scorers and were also in the league 2 team of the season. The fact is that Walker (and probably CJ) will move on to higher clubs, because they are better than league 2.
Meanwhile, some people have this absurd love-in with Danny Rose and Macca, who quite frankly are not good enough (as evidenced by the last 2 years). I know which two players I'd like to keep and which two I'd be happy to move on.
Correct VP.
Someone on here was also talking nostalgically about Jamie McGuire, saying he would have made the difference between play-offs and automatics.
arsene wengers coat wrote:I don't 'doubt' their abilities. We know that when both of them are on form they are quality..
For me I'm just disappointed that for large parts of the season both CJ and Walker went missing.
Despite walker's goals, which you simply can not argue with, he just seemed to float about the place. CJ was Flitcrofts pet so was played in every position conceivable before being replaced which was sometimes the last option. The fact is that these two were potentially our 'game changers'. But for me they didn't have the impact they should have. Now whether that's down to tactics or because we lacked a 'Davies type' player is open to debate.
If Dempster can get CJ firing twice as often, we'll have a million pound player, easy. As for walker, someone mentioned that if he goes back to Forest he goes back to being Des Walker's son rather than being his own man elsewhere. This is true for me because he's not good enough for the championship. Even if he goes to L1, I think that's his ceiling for the moment on the basis that he joins a top-half team.
I don't think anyone is a hard-line 'they were rubbish' or 'they were amazing'. I'm somewhere in between, but what's for sure is without them, our season would have looked a lot worse.
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