Stoney wrote:Bought my QLE membership card, bargain! Thanks JR
QLE could be the place to be next season. Let’s get flags/banners/scarves etc up all over the place and make it a proper “home end”.
Stoney wrote:Bought my QLE membership card, bargain! Thanks JR
Foresttownstag wrote:Stoney wrote:Bought my QLE membership card, bargain! Thanks JR
QLE could be the place to be next season. Let’s get flags/banners/scarves etc up all over the place and make it a proper “home end”.
spanishstag wrote:You should be ashamed of yourself ,taking up an offer thats designed to encourage people to watch the stags ,when you could buy a season ticket and slate all the people who like you thought ,hey its a bargain ,lets give it a go
Foresttownstag wrote:Stoney wrote:Bought my QLE membership card, bargain! Thanks JR
QLE could be the place to be next season. Let’s get flags/banners/scarves etc up all over the place and make it a proper “home end”.
spanishstag wrote:Well you should really read your reply to my original comment, without season ticket holders there would be no club ,blah blah , truth is its up to the individual ,how to pay ,i dont think jr got rich by being popular
spanishstag wrote:I went to plenty of conference games and paid ,full whack to gain admission ,my main gripe with the post was that he was advocating QLE members paid more to watch matches than is being offered in the present deal ,hardly helping the club to attract more fans is it
1970Stag wrote:1443 season tickets, I thought we were only at 1000 fairly recently, that sounds like a very healthy jump, while the QLE membership card has only gone up from 400-417? Be great to get 2000 season tickets and 750 membership cards?
DogsDoDahs wrote:1970Stag wrote:1443 season tickets, I thought we were only at 1000 fairly recently, that sounds like a very healthy jump, while the QLE membership card has only gone up from 400-417? Be great to get 2000 season tickets and 750 membership cards?
It may be a healthy jump but if the club sell only 2000 STs that's 500 down on previous seasons which at adult prices amounts to £175000 replaced by less than £1000 worth of QLE memberships with no guarantees of future income from them. That's a significant amount that will come out the budget before the season starts and should have been spent on new players coming in. Great bit of business that mate
halifaxstag wrote:DogsDoDahs wrote:1970Stag wrote:1443 season tickets, I thought we were only at 1000 fairly recently, that sounds like a very healthy jump, while the QLE membership card has only gone up from 400-417? Be great to get 2000 season tickets and 750 membership cards?
It may be a healthy jump but if the club sell only 2000 STs that's 500 down on previous seasons which at adult prices amounts to £175000 replaced by less than £1000 worth of QLE memberships with no guarantees of future income from them. That's a significant amount that will come out the budget before the season starts and should have been spent on new players coming in. Great bit of business that mate
Not exactly a loss of 175k.
Last season we sold approx 2100 early bird tickets (2076 by 29th May) and approx 400 after the 31st May deadline.
Assuming they were all bought at adult prices ( as you have above) then this would have generated £755,500 (2100x295=619,500 + 400x340=136,000)
So this season IF we sell 2000 STs and 500 membership that would generate £701,000(2000x 350=7000 + 500x20=1000)
In addition there will be match day ticket income from Quarry Lane members. If, on average, each member comes to 10 matches (many of them will come to more, a few maybe only 3 or 4) then that will generate £55,000 ( 500x10x11).
So our overall ST and QLM could be £756,000 which looks surprisingly like last year’s figure.
In addition, as has been stated elsewhere, we can charge away fans extra this season due to increase in Quarry Lane match day prices.
Doesn’t look so bad business now, does it? Maybe JR has the makings of a businessman!
* as stated this is based only on adult prices (both seasons’ figures would probably reduce by similar amounts if you take Senior, young adult and junior numbers into account) and the assumption we will sell another 500ish STs which seems quite feasible.
EdwinstoweStag wrote:“Yeh but no but ...”
Can we draw a line under this subject now?
DoomMerchant wrote:spanishstag wrote:Well you should really read your reply to my original comment, without season ticket holders there would be no club ,blah blah , truth is its up to the individual ,how to pay ,i dont think jr got rich by being popular
I'm the head repeatedly hitting itself against your thick brick wall.
DoomMerchant wrote:edwinscott wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:spanishstag wrote:So you want to charge people more for not being , a precious season ticket holder , my god you say you and your st holders are the backbone of the club ,but want to charge maybe less fortunate people than yourself more hang your head in shame
And there encapsulated in one single post is someone who doesn't get it.
Top draw blinkering.
I wonder if some fans understand that if it wasn't for people buying season tickets during the Conference years, there might not be a club to support now.
And there we have stagsnet going full circle, some fans see themselves as class A and others as class D.
Really?
So you reckon that this is an "I'm a better fan than you" argument?
I'm sorry but the club was gasping for funds during the summer months of the non-league days. Folks buying season tickets helped it survive through its most difficult period. That's not those people thumbing their nose and being high and mighty, it was those people wanting to keep their club alive.
If that annoys you, tough raspberry.
spanishstag wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:edwinscott wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:spanishstag wrote:So you want to charge people more for not being , a precious season ticket holder , my god you say you and your st holders are the backbone of the club ,but want to charge maybe less fortunate people than yourself more hang your head in shame
And there encapsulated in one single post is someone who doesn't get it.
Top draw blinkering.
I wonder if some fans understand that if it wasn't for people buying season tickets during the Conference years, there might not be a club to support now.
And there we have stagsnet going full circle, some fans see themselves as class A and others as class D.
Really?
So you reckon that this is an "I'm a better fan than you" argument?
I'm sorry but the club was gasping for funds during the summer months of the non-league days. Folks buying season tickets helped it survive through its most difficult period. That's not those people thumbing their nose and being high and mighty, it was those people wanting to keep their club alive.
If that annoys you, tough raspberry.
Yes but some people cant afford a season ticket ,but they keep paying when times are tough as well ,in all honesty most people buy a season ticket because its value for money i know theres an emotional tie ,but its all about the best deal for you ,and the best deal for the club ,jr has decided that he thinks the best deal for the club is his QLE members card and no early bird deal its his decision
halifaxstag wrote:EdwinstoweStag wrote:“Yeh but no but ...”
Can we draw a line under this subject now?
No, we can’t
DogsBollox is assuming that all of last season’s ST holders would buy one this year if the QL membership offer wasn’t available. I don’t believe this. Our core ST numbers have been around 1800 and the extras came last season from the Scottish ones effect and some good backing from JR making us favourites to get promoted. Even though JR has backed Flitcroft this season I don’t think it has the same “wow” factor, especially with lack of early signings, and we would have had reduced numbers of ST holders anyway.
I understand his point about the pre season cash flow, so making an adjustment for Stagsnet number of ST sold at 2409 pre-22/8/17 the cash generated would have been approx £725k compared with the estimated this season of £700k based on sales of 2000.
25k would only get you a decent youth team/ young professional player.
Please note that I have made the same assumptions as before about adult prices because I don’t have the breakdown of age group sales. If Martin , or anyone else, does have them I will re-calculate( and re-estimate this season)
My use of the early bird price is not 15% out- it is the ACTUAL price of the adult ticket sold. Similarly my use of £340 is not 3% out- it is the actual price of the adult ticket sold.
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