diablo wrote:Steve North wrote:diablo wrote:Race was , is and always will be a debatable subject and name calling is the easy option to express feelings but it does show a basic lack of thought for other people ...however as my dear old dad to say "sticks and stones can hurt my bones but calling cannot hurt me " I was brought up in the era when Paddy was an Irishman , Jock was a Scotsmen and Taffy was a Welshman and Pakistanis were Packys and so on...This racial stereotyping is not just a British thing but is found all over the world and is the butt of jokes worldwide...In Australia,,,where does an Englishman hide his money..under his bar of soap...and so on and so on but in my opinion the whole colour thing has been blown up out of all proportion by the Black Lives Matter fiasco and has now gone into over drive and every TV advert appears to have a Black person in it to an excessive degree bearing in mind black people represent some 4% of the population . Everyone should have a job according to their talent not just because its right . The person in the Stand shouting abuse was clearly wrong and will probably never change his opinion . all we can do is point out that we are all equal and all lives matter what ever race, colour or creed they are
Laughable.
Based on your thinking, I can’t understand why the likes of Sterling, Rashford and Southgate are making such a big fuss about black athletes receiving racial abuse, if it’s only ‘name calling’ after all. They should just suck it up. Likewise, perhaps we could all go back to referring to people from Pakistan as ‘Packies’ as well - just because you were brought up in an era where that was common place. I expect you also think that the Black and White Minstrel Show is good, wholesome family entertainment for a Saturday night as well. It makes you sound like an apologist for racism.
I wouldn't normally reply to someone with such obviously bigoted views. Perhaps you should read my comments again and try to understand what I am trying to say. You cannot change History although you personally may not wish to acknowledge it . Times change and peoples views often change too, perhaps you should occasionally accept that your views are not necessarily the correct views , we are all entitled to our opinions whether they are agreeable to you or not. As an aside I personally never watched the Black and White Minstrel Show! obviously you did or you wouldn't have an opinion on what the show was appearing to portray
Calling out and challenging your view does not count as bigotry my friend. It just means that I don’t agree with your view of the world. I happen to think that what you have said is part of the problem in tackling racism in society.
There are far too many people who are willing to sweep racism under the carpet, ignore it and hope it will go away or (as you appear to have done), label it as ‘name calling’ - rather than confront it and have those difficult conversations as a society.
We have a situation here where our football club are quite rightly trying to take a tough line on racism in the ground and then we have posters who are appearing to say its only name calling and that can’t hurt you and it’s always existed and in the era I was brought up in people from Pakistan were referred to as ‘Packies’. And therefore if the use of the word ‘Packies’ back in the 1970s was commonplace, does that in some perverse way justify racial abuse today ? I think not.
There are far too many people who are ‘locked into’ this way of thinking and are too prepared to accept racism as ‘just the way things are’.
I do appreciate that my response has irritated you, but In my view calling that kind of excuse making and unacceptable language out is hardly bigotry and I think it is required.