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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby Captain Cunno » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:59 pm

So they just stop paying em ? :lol:
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:41 pm

They still have to pay them because they have a contract but they cannot play them and the salaries they pay them from now are not included in the salary cap. Peterborough did this with some of their players. Jason Naismith, Louis Reed, George Cooper and George Boyd were not included in Peterborough's squad at the start of the season and put on the transfer list.

It is also sending a message to the players concerned and their agents that they have no future at the club and so are better off agreeing a pay off or going out on loan.

David Flitcroft would probably have not included Paul Anderson and Zander Diamond in his 22 man squad of over 21 players if the salary cap had been in force.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby Dan » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:23 pm

Be interesting to see if the new Vale manager wants to play either of them.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:08 pm

They can be re-registered if another player moves on or is loaned out or is ruled out with a long term injury.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby Dan » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:20 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:They can be re-registered if another player moves on or is loaned out or is ruled out with a long term injury.


I bet there’ll be a few “long term injuries” to players who fall out of favour with the manager ;)
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby MTFCMusings » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:15 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:They can be re-registered if another player moves on or is loaned out or is ruled out with a long term injury.


I’m pretty sure they can be re-registered at any time whilst the window is open can they not?
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby smulls » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:34 pm

I think Joe Riley is out of the squad and therefore he is not included in the salary cap list.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby chip63 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:08 pm

smulls wrote:I think Joe Riley is out of the squad and therefore he is not included in the salary cap list.


Long term injury, it's that long I can't remember when or how.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby arsene wengers coat » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:08 pm

Interesting

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/prest ... pdale/amp/

Someone could get a decent loan...
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby daddycool » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:11 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:Interesting

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/prest ... pdale/amp/

Someone could get a decent loan...

Too true but I would guess div 1.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:25 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:Interesting

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/prest ... pdale/amp/

Someone could get a decent loan...


And this is where the salary cap is bad. If a club can afford a player of that calibre, then it is a restriction of trade to deny them the opportunity to get them in. The salary cap is a hammer to crack a nut.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby mousemousemouse » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:44 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Interesting

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/prest ... pdale/amp/

Someone could get a decent loan...


And this is where the salary cap is bad. If a club can afford a player of that calibre, then it is a restriction of trade to deny them the opportunity to get them in. The salary cap is a hammer to crack a nut.


Define "afford". Bury could afford to pay huge wages right up until the moment they couldn't.

And then there's the source of those finances. We'd be a piss poor team financially if we didn't have JR throwing in money as a sponsor.

Tough to find a solution
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby Nottsstag100 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:18 pm

Perry Ng linked with Cardiff big jump for the lad but always looked decent vs us
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby ST4GS » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:07 pm

Nottsstag100 wrote:Perry Ng linked with Cardiff big jump for the lad but always looked decent vs us

Who? Did you temporarily lose the vowels on your keyboard for a while or is this the missing vowels round on Only Connect?
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby Billy the fish » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:19 pm

ST4GS wrote:
Nottsstag100 wrote:Perry Ng linked with Cardiff big jump for the lad but always looked decent vs us

Who? Did you temporarily lose the vowels on your keyboard for a while or is this the missing vowels round on Only Connect?


Think he’s from Crewe ? Cardiff doing their usual throwing money at decent lower league players Watters yesterday for £1m+ ....
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby bobbystagsfan » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:56 pm

ST4GS wrote:
Nottsstag100 wrote:Perry Ng linked with Cardiff big jump for the lad but always looked decent vs us

Who? Did you temporarily lose the vowels on your keyboard for a while or is this the missing vowels round on Only Connect?



Think his parents are of Thai descent. It's a weird second name!
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby part time pete » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:48 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
ST4GS wrote:
Nottsstag100 wrote:Perry Ng linked with Cardiff big jump for the lad but always looked decent vs us

Who? Did you temporarily lose the vowels on your keyboard for a while or is this the missing vowels round on Only Connect?



Think his parents are of Thai descent. It's a weird second name!


Apparently it is of Chinese origin.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby The One » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:22 pm

part time pete wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
ST4GS wrote:
Nottsstag100 wrote:Perry Ng linked with Cardiff big jump for the lad but always looked decent vs us

Who? Did you temporarily lose the vowels on your keyboard for a while or is this the missing vowels round on Only Connect?



Think his parents are of Thai descent. It's a weird second name!


Apparently it is of Chinese origin.


Bit like Covid. I will get me coat
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby nick_stags » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:25 pm

The One wrote:
part time pete wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
ST4GS wrote:
Nottsstag100 wrote:Perry Ng linked with Cardiff big jump for the lad but always looked decent vs us

Who? Did you temporarily lose the vowels on your keyboard for a while or is this the missing vowels round on Only Connect?



Think his parents are of Thai descent. It's a weird second name!


Apparently it is of Chinese origin.


Bit like Covid. I will get me coat


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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby MTFCMusings » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:34 pm



Burton have signed a new keeper, could we be interested in one of the two they already had?

Any of our resident former Burton followers shed any light on one of the two that may now be available?
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby Captain Cunno » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:35 pm

There are other teams than Burton he can sign players from ya know....?
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby MTFCMusings » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:38 pm

Captain Cunno wrote:There are other teams than Burton he can sign players from ya know....?


Of course.

But given we’ve signed one of their players and a lot of staff who used to be there, it’s right to keep an eye on them.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:57 pm

mousemousemouse wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Interesting

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/prest ... pdale/amp/

Someone could get a decent loan...


And this is where the salary cap is bad. If a club can afford a player of that calibre, then it is a restriction of trade to deny them the opportunity to get them in. The salary cap is a hammer to crack a nut.


Define "afford". Bury could afford to pay huge wages right up until the moment they couldn't.

And then there's the source of those finances. We'd be a piss poor team financially if we didn't have JR throwing in money as a sponsor.

Tough to find a solution


Sure. Afford means being able to pay for without going into an unsustainable financial position. A salary cap isn’t the answer, better diligence is. It’s football communism.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:58 pm

"Barrow have signed Tranmere midfielder Ollie Banks on a permanent deal and brought in Barnsley winger Dan Bramall and Bristol Rovers defender Tom Davies on loan until the end of the season. Banks, 28, had featured 19 times for Tranmere this campaign. Bramall, 22, joined the Tykes in September 2020 but has yet to make his debut for the Championship side. Davies, 28, was ruled out with a knee injury in February 2020 and has not appeared for Rovers since. The length of Banks' deal has not been disclosed by the club."

"Crawley Town have signed Leyton Orient winger Jordan Maguire-Drew on loan. The 23-year-old former Brighton youth player has moved to the Lamex Stadium on a deal until the end of the season."

"Wycombe Wanderers midfielder Nick Freeman has joined Leyton Orient on loan until the end of the season. Freeman, 25, has featured eight times for the Chairboys in all competitions this season and played in last season's League One play-off final."
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2020-2021

Postby kevin kents tasce » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:04 pm

bellwhiff wrote:Sure. Afford means being able to pay for without going into an unsustainable financial position. A salary cap isn’t the answer, better diligence is. It’s football communism.


There are two terms you have used in this thread.

Restriction of trade and Football communism?

I don’t understand what you mean, could you explain?
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