New Mansfield Town Managers - First 10 League Games

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Graham Coughlan has the same total points as Adam Murray from his first 10 league games and one point less than John Dempster

Paul Cox and Steve Evans lead the way for making an initial impact.

Graham Coughlan W2 D3 L5 = 9 Points
John Dempster W2 D4 L4 = 10 Points
David Flitcroft W1 D5 L4 = 8 Points
Steve Evans W4 D3 L3 = 15 Points
Adam Murray W2 D3 L5 = 9 Points
Paul Cox W5 D4 L1 = 19 Points

[cassellswasmagic]

I think GC has had the hardest takeover though thanks to the ineptitude of JD and the board!!!

[Sweden Stag]

Graham Coughlan has the same total points as Adam Murray from his first 10 league games and one point less than John Dempster

Paul Cox and Steve Evans lead the way for making an initial impact.

Graham Coughlan W2 D3 L5 = 9 Points
John Dempster W2 D4 L4 = 10 Points
David Flitcroft W1 D5 L4 = 8 Points
Steve Evans W4 D3 L3 = 15 Points
Adam Murray W2 D3 L5 = 9 Points
Paul Cox W5 D4 L1 = 19 Points

Coughlan has one more than David Flitcroft.

[Jimstag]

I think GC has had the hardest takeover though thanks to the ineptitude of JD and the board!!!

I agree. It will be worth comparing the first 10 games of next season and see where he ranks.

[Martin Shaw]

it's a pretty flawed comparison ... unless it's from the start of a season, you've had pre-season to get your own players in, and get the players up to the fitness levels you want.

[Tippy Tappy Football]

There's certainly a difference between starting mid season and starting with your own squad. Steve Evans did a decent job though when he arrived mid season compared to Adam Murray, David Flitcroft and Graham Coughlin. You could argue that Adam Murray had strengthened the squad that he inherited from Paul Cox which gave Steve Evans a bit more to work with than Adam had when he took over.

[Foresttownstag]

I think GC has had the hardest takeover though thanks to the ineptitude of JD and the board!!!

This

[Stoney]

John Dempsters first ten opponents had an average league table position of 16th (going off today's league table).

Graham Coughlans first ten opponents had an average league table position of 11th.

He's had a much tougher set of first ten fixtures.

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Good point Stoney.

[Parkinsons Perm]

There's certainly a difference between starting mid season and starting with your own squad. Steve Evans did a decent job though when he arrived mid season compared to Adam Murray, David Flitcroft and Graham Coughlin. You could argue that Adam Murray had strengthened the squad that he inherited from Paul Cox which gave Steve Evans a bit more to work with than Adam had when he took over.

Wow, nobody wants to give Evans any credit!!!!
Why didn't Muzza get the same players winning then? Evans made an immediate impact as he simply went for it and got bodies in the box, it was a massive difference overnight from Murray's over negative, over thinking tactics!

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Steve Evans clearly has the best record in the EFL since our return Woody so I agree with you!

[Stags 2002]

Graham Coughlan has the same total points as Adam Murray from his first 10 league games and one point less than John Dempster

Paul Cox and Steve Evans lead the way for making an initial impact.

Graham Coughlan W2 D3 L5 = 9 Points
John Dempster W2 D4 L4 = 10 Points
David Flitcroft W1 D5 L4 = 8 Points
Steve Evans W4 D3 L3 = 15 Points
Adam Murray W2 D3 L5 = 9 Points
Paul Cox W5 D4 L1 = 19 Points

Coughlan has one more than David Flitcroft.

At first glace you look at that and think immediately Flitcroft inherited a winning team where as Coughlan inherited a losing team so maybe the start isn't that bad given circumstances.

However there is a huge similarity between the two that could be overlooked and goes someway to supporting the fitness theory.

Flitcroft came in and changed the training sessions immediately making them longer and training the team all day as opposed to Evans shorter sessions - he didn't have to but the season after, after a mediocre start paid off.

Coughlan has arguably done the same with regular triple training sessions but this has been forced upon due to the state of the current team. It took Flitcroft about 5 months (feb - sept excluding the summer break in between) to get the players fully fit. Without interruptions it could take 3 months this would mean that Coughlan only starts the get the players playing a regular pressing game consistently from the end of March onwards.

[Sweden Stag]

Some other Stags' bosses 10 first games during my time on Stagsnet:

Stuart Watkiss W 6 D 1 L 3 = 19 points
Keith Curle W 4 D 2 L 4 = 14 points
Carlton Palmer W 3 D 4 L 3 = 13 points
Peter Shirtliff W 4 D 1 L 5 = 13 points
Billy Dearden W 3 D 3 L 4 = 12 points
Paul Holland W 3 D 3 L 4 = 12 points
Billy McEwan W 5 D 3 L 2 = 18 points
Dave Holdsworth W 6 D 2 L 2 = 20 points
Duncan Russell W 4 D 2 L 4 = 14 points

All were managers before Paul Cox took over. Stats from January 2002 onwards in chronological order from the appointment of Stuart Watkiss in January 2002. Details checked. Correct me if I am wrong on some details

[Foresttownstag]

Take what we think about Steve Evans out of the equation and you can’t deny he got us playing, we had a real good feel factor around the club which DF also continued upon arriving.

It’s just sad to see it’s all but gone in less than 12 months.

Give GC a full summer to get a promotion pushing squad together who are fit and ready, give him at least 10/15 games, then judge where we are.

[The One]

Take what we think about Steve Evans out of the equation and you can’t deny he got us playing, we had a real good feel factor around the club which DF also continued upon arriving.

It’s just sad to see it’s all but gone in less than 12 months.

Give GC a full summer to get a promotion pushing squad together who are fit and ready, give him at least 10/15 games, then judge where we are.

The feel good factor died with the appointment of JD, massive error.

[bobbystagsfan]

Take what we think about Steve Evans out of the equation and you can’t deny he got us playing, we had a real good feel factor around the club which DF also continued upon arriving.

It’s just sad to see it’s all but gone in less than 12 months.

Give GC a full summer to get a promotion pushing squad together who are fit and ready, give him at least 10/15 games, then judge where we are.

The feel good factor died with the appointment of JD, massive error.

It happened before with the play off defeat

[Spiritater]

The feel good factor began fading this time last year

[BigGuy]

It didn’t in my opinion, even with us trying to stumble over the line there was still a buzz up to the MK game.

We wouldn’t have too over 5,000 otherwise.

[The One]

The feel good factor began fading this time last year

With 5000 down in MK ....really

[Sneag]

The feel good factor began fading this time last year

With 5000 down in MK ....really

I think most of us travelled in hope rather than expectation though.

[Spiritater]

True Sneag we did. We'd seen us chuck it away previous. Then in the first PO game in Wales we managed how many? 286 Feel good factor eh. Yeah righto.
We took over twice as many to Hereford

[BigGuy]

It was a damn better feeling than what we have now.

[Spiritater]

Well yes, let's call it the 'feeling less peed off than we are now factor' then.
But good

[The One]

True Sneag we did. We'd seen us chuck it away previous. Then in the first PO game in Wales we managed how many? 286 Feel good factor eh. Yeah righto.
We took over twice as many to Hereford

The Welsh game was televised was MK game... no.was Hereford no....do not let facts get in way of your rant.

[Sweden Stag]

Keep to topic please, folks.