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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Sneag » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:42 am

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:It's a disgrace that Johnny Miller has been described as washed up/past it/has been on this thread.

One of the finest footballers to ever turn out for the Stags with an absolute Exocet of a shot. He was far from past it when he came to this club and still a relatively young man. He was only 26 when he came here and made 113 appearances before going on to Port Vale and played for a further 2 seasons.

He was that well respected that he gained employment with the council in their leisure department before becoming the mayor's driver.

If that is how we are judging players then I'm very pleased that posters on here are not in our scouting network.


Miller was a class player in our best ever season. Bordering on legendary IMO.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby oldweststander » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:48 am

smulls wrote:Arthur Mann



Good player.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:55 am

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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby julianshatnasty » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:57 am

Sneag wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:It's a disgrace that Johnny Miller has been described as washed up/past it/has been on this thread.

One of the finest footballers to ever turn out for the Stags with an absolute Exocet of a shot. He was far from past it when he came to this club and still a relatively young man. He was only 26 when he came here and made 113 appearances before going on to Port Vale and played for a further 2 seasons.

He was that well respected that he gained employment with the council in their leisure department before becoming the mayor's driver.

If that is how we are judging players then I'm very pleased that posters on here are not in our scouting network.


Miller was a class player in our best ever season. Bordering on legendary IMO.


It's this type of thread that sorts out those that know what they are talking about and those that don't. It should be a sticky to use as a handy reference tool for when the mud slinging starts.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Vice President » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:32 am

Apologies - I think my post was misunderstood. I was trying to say that we had some legends who many people thought were ‘washed up’ when they came to us, but were by no means past it and they were excellent for us. (Eg Johnny Miller and all those other great players I mentioned, who were excellent for us). I’m a big Johnny Miller fan.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Norman » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:07 am

Billy the fish wrote:David Kelly


He did ok for us . Scored a few goals!
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:19 am

David Kelly was a good signing. 4 goals in 11(6) appearances in our Division 4 (League 2) promotion season in 2001-2002. He added that vital bit of experience to get us over the line.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby wink68 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:48 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:It's a disgrace that Johnny Miller has been described as washed up/past it/has been on this thread.

One of the finest footballers to ever turn out for the Stags with an absolute Exocet of a shot. He was far from past it when he came to this club and still a relatively young man. He was only 26 when he came here and made 113 appearances before going on to Port Vale and played for a further 2 seasons.

He was that well respected that he gained employment with the council in their leisure department before becoming the mayor's driver.

If that is how we are judging players then I'm very pleased that posters on here are not in our scouting network.

Decent player in a great team. But boy that penalty.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby wink68 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:51 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:David Kelly was a good signing. 4 goals in 11(6) appearances in our Division 4 (League 2) promotion season in 2001-2002. He added that vital bit of experience to get us over the line.

As said, an old head coming off the bench. Can remember him being fouled on the halfway line and managing to fall over in the box to get a pen.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Amber Andy » Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:57 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:It's a disgrace that Johnny Miller has been described as washed up/past it/has been on this thread.

One of the finest footballers to ever turn out for the Stags with an absolute Exocet of a shot. He was far from past it when he came to this club and still a relatively young man. He was only 26 when he came here and made 113 appearances before going on to Port Vale and played for a further 2 seasons.

He was that well respected that he gained employment with the council in their leisure department before becoming the mayor's driver.

If that is how we are judging players then I'm very pleased that posters on here are not in our scouting network.

I agree with you. Wonderful player for us.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby I am Spartacus » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:03 pm

Dan.

End of!!!

:lol: Could not resist, sorry.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Bradders » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:52 pm

Dan wrote:Daley Thompson.

I still regret that he never actually played for us. I know that his football skills were probably rather basic, but surely he could have been afforded five minutes on the pitch, if only for Stags PR reasons.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Amber Andy » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:02 pm

Bradders wrote:
Dan wrote:Daley Thompson.

I still regret that he never actually played for us. I know that his football skills were probably rather basic, but surely he could have been afforded five minutes on the pitch, if only for Stags PR reasons.
He did play for our reserves.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Vice President » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:24 pm

Vice President wrote:Frank Wignall
Johnny Miller
John Matthews
Steve Whitworth
Barry Daines :roll:
Emlyn Hughes (pre season friendlies - but still looked good though)
Tony Lormor
Scott Sellars
Mark Stallard

... all good players in their day (apart from Barry Daines), but all well past their peak by the time they came to us.

And Peter Morris was a 'washed up' signing as a player, but give him his due - he was a successful player/manager.

Ian Greaves signed a few: (Whatmore, Whitworth, Cassells [class act], Chamberlain, Vinter, Trevor Christie, Brian Cox) - but they were all significantly superior to our current crop.


There has been a misunderstanding. I have conflated 'those that were past it' with 'those that people thought were past it, but clearly were not'. Ignore this post, because clearly players like Johnny Miller, Keith Cassells, Neville Chamberlain, Mick Vinter & Trevor Christie were fine players for MTFC, and were defintely not washed up!I hope I have cleared that up? ;)
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby The One » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:17 pm

Vice President wrote:
Vice President wrote:Frank Wignall
Johnny Miller
John Matthews
Steve Whitworth
Barry Daines :roll:
Emlyn Hughes (pre season friendlies - but still looked good though)
Tony Lormor
Scott Sellars
Mark Stallard

... all good players in their day (apart from Barry Daines), but all well past their peak by the time they came to us.

And Peter Morris was a 'washed up' signing as a player, but give him his due - he was a successful player/manager.

Ian Greaves signed a few: (Whatmore, Whitworth, Cassells [class act], Chamberlain, Vinter, Trevor Christie, Brian Cox) - but they were all significantly superior to our current crop.


There has been a misunderstanding. I have conflated 'those that were past it' with 'those that people thought were past it, but clearly were not'. Ignore this post, because clearly players like Johnny Miller, Keith Cassells, Neville Chamberlain, Mick Vinter & Trevor Christie were fine players for MTFC, and were defintely not washed up!I hope I have cleared that up? ;)


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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby bobbystagsfan » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:18 pm

Jacob Mellis?
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Vice President » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:55 pm

The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:
Vice President wrote:Frank Wignall
Johnny Miller
John Matthews
Steve Whitworth
Barry Daines :roll:
Emlyn Hughes (pre season friendlies - but still looked good though)
Tony Lormor
Scott Sellars
Mark Stallard

... all good players in their day (apart from Barry Daines), but all well past their peak by the time they came to us.

And Peter Morris was a 'washed up' signing as a player, but give him his due - he was a successful player/manager.

Ian Greaves signed a few: (Whatmore, Whitworth, Cassells [class act], Chamberlain, Vinter, Trevor Christie, Brian Cox) - but they were all significantly superior to our current crop.


There has been a misunderstanding. I have conflated 'those that were past it' with 'those that people thought were past it, but clearly were not'. Ignore this post, because clearly players like Johnny Miller, Keith Cassells, Neville Chamberlain, Mick Vinter & Trevor Christie were fine players for MTFC, and were defintely not washed up!I hope I have cleared that up? ;)


I have put you on my list.


What is that supposed to mean?
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Sneag » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:59 pm

Vice President wrote:
The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:
Vice President wrote:Frank Wignall
Johnny Miller
John Matthews
Steve Whitworth
Barry Daines :roll:
Emlyn Hughes (pre season friendlies - but still looked good though)
Tony Lormor
Scott Sellars
Mark Stallard

... all good players in their day (apart from Barry Daines), but all well past their peak by the time they came to us.

And Peter Morris was a 'washed up' signing as a player, but give him his due - he was a successful player/manager.

Ian Greaves signed a few: (Whatmore, Whitworth, Cassells [class act], Chamberlain, Vinter, Trevor Christie, Brian Cox) - but they were all significantly superior to our current crop.


There has been a misunderstanding. I have conflated 'those that were past it' with 'those that people thought were past it, but clearly were not'. Ignore this post, because clearly players like Johnny Miller, Keith Cassells, Neville Chamberlain, Mick Vinter & Trevor Christie were fine players for MTFC, and were defintely not washed up!I hope I have cleared that up? ;)


I have put you on my list.


What is that supposed to mean?


Don't tell him your name Pike.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Dan » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:03 am

I am Spartacus wrote:Dan.

End of!!!

:lol: Could not resist, sorry.


Grow up, it doesn’t even make sense :roll:
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Rob » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:45 am

Woodclanger 1 wrote:Joe Laidlaw


I remember when he signed and was warming up, first game of the season we were in the North Stand and he was shooting towards us, I turned to my Grandad and asked who the new coach, the tubby chap with the tash was.

It's a bit sad that Keith Cassells, Johnny Miller and John Matthews have been mentioned on this list, three of the finest footballers ever to grace our shirt, they really, really did grace it.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Bros » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:20 am

Vice President wrote:
Vice President wrote:Frank Wignall
Johnny Miller
John Matthews
Steve Whitworth
Barry Daines :roll:
Emlyn Hughes (pre season friendlies - but still looked good though)
Tony Lormor
Scott Sellars
Mark Stallard

... all good players in their day (apart from Barry Daines), but all well past their peak by the time they came to us.

And Peter Morris was a 'washed up' signing as a player, but give him his due - he was a successful player/manager.

Ian Greaves signed a few: (Whatmore, Whitworth, Cassells [class act], Chamberlain, Vinter, Trevor Christie, Brian Cox) - but they were all significantly superior to our current crop.


There has been a misunderstanding. I have conflated 'those that were past it' with 'those that people thought were past it, but clearly were not'. Ignore this post, because clearly players like Johnny Miller, Keith Cassells, Neville Chamberlain, Mick Vinter & Trevor Christie were fine players for MTFC, and were defintely not washed up!I hope I have cleared that up? ;)

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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby northern stag » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:56 am

Anybody remember Dennis Martin ?
One of the first players I ever saw that wore gloves while playing, he always looked like he wanted to be somewhere else when he played for us.
Another one was Gordon Owen
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Sneag » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:35 am

northern stag wrote:Anybody remember Dennis Martin ?
One of the first players I ever saw that wore gloves while playing, he always looked like he wanted to be somewhere else when he played for us.
Another one was Gordon Owen


Martin was one of the slowest players I've ever seen. Missed a pen v Spurs.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby kentish stag » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:21 pm

Paul Goodwin. I think thats how you spell his name, always reminded me of a horse running when he ran.
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Re: Washed up/past it/has-been signings

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:26 pm

kentish stag wrote:Paul Goodwin. I think thats how you spell his name, always reminded me of a horse running when he ran.
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Do you mean Dave Goodwin?
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