WVStag wrote:In all honesty, Bishop should put his big boy pants on and allow themselves as players and more importantly the manager to account for this seasons showings on the pitch.
Comments like what Dempster received about f'ing off and dying are obviously filed under abuse, which is unacceptable and normal people don't make those comments. However, the booing, the Dempster out chance, the criticism of players/managers ineptitude at full time isn't out of place in my book. They are the soundings off of (rightly) angry fans who have forked out 25 quid to see utter toss yet again from their team.
They are all absolutely miles off it. Bishop thinks it's because of last season, Broughton walked off yesterday shaking his head at the booing, Dempster walked off with hands out as if to ask 'why are you booing?'... are they that clueless? Do they genuinely believe that they're doing alright and performances and results improving? Baffling.
The usual suspects will give it the old 'gEt BeHinD tHe TeAm, CaLL yOuRsElF a FaN' but that's as stupid as Bishop's ramblings. Booing your own team is not as counter-productive as people think. Fans are allowed after this abomination of a season's start to voice there opinion. The product we are paying for is flipping dreadful. Sorry to say, but for the people that like to think for themselves, we aren't prepared to just sing and clap along come what may. Without criticism, you don't progress. Booing after a win (as someone earlier mentioned in the thread) isn't normal. But that doesn't mean it's unacceptable. Shocking thought.
Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:In all honesty, Bishop should put his big boy pants on and allow themselves as players and more importantly the manager to account for this seasons showings on the pitch.
Comments like what Dempster received about f'ing off and dying are obviously filed under abuse, which is unacceptable and normal people don't make those comments. However, the booing, the Dempster out chance, the criticism of players/managers ineptitude at full time isn't out of place in my book. They are the soundings off of (rightly) angry fans who have forked out 25 quid to see utter toss yet again from their team.
They are all absolutely miles off it. Bishop thinks it's because of last season, Broughton walked off yesterday shaking his head at the booing, Dempster walked off with hands out as if to ask 'why are you booing?'... are they that clueless? Do they genuinely believe that they're doing alright and performances and results improving? Baffling.
The usual suspects will give it the old 'gEt BeHinD tHe TeAm, CaLL yOuRsElF a FaN' but that's as stupid as Bishop's ramblings. Booing your own team is not as counter-productive as people think. Fans are allowed after this abomination of a season's start to voice there opinion. The product we are paying for is flipping dreadful. Sorry to say, but for the people that like to think for themselves, we aren't prepared to just sing and clap along come what may. Without criticism, you don't progress. Booing after a win (as someone earlier mentioned in the thread) isn't normal. But that doesn't mean it's unacceptable. Shocking thought.
I think we should take note of what Bishop is saying. He is a senior pro who has vast experience. If he is saying the booing and comments are affecting performances, then let's act on that. Stop the booing.
Also you need to understand how the booing affects the rest of the fans. It simply makes it a toxic atmosphere and not a place you want to come back too. Children in particular. The team wins and some of the fans boo. Strange!
Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:In all honesty, Bishop should put his big boy pants on and allow themselves as players and more importantly the manager to account for this seasons showings on the pitch.
Comments like what Dempster received about f'ing off and dying are obviously filed under abuse, which is unacceptable and normal people don't make those comments. However, the booing, the Dempster out chance, the criticism of players/managers ineptitude at full time isn't out of place in my book. They are the soundings off of (rightly) angry fans who have forked out 25 quid to see utter toss yet again from their team.
They are all absolutely miles off it. Bishop thinks it's because of last season, Broughton walked off yesterday shaking his head at the booing, Dempster walked off with hands out as if to ask 'why are you booing?'... are they that clueless? Do they genuinely believe that they're doing alright and performances and results improving? Baffling.
The usual suspects will give it the old 'gEt BeHinD tHe TeAm, CaLL yOuRsElF a FaN' but that's as stupid as Bishop's ramblings. Booing your own team is not as counter-productive as people think. Fans are allowed after this abomination of a season's start to voice there opinion. The product we are paying for is flipping dreadful. Sorry to say, but for the people that like to think for themselves, we aren't prepared to just sing and clap along come what may. Without criticism, you don't progress. Booing after a win (as someone earlier mentioned in the thread) isn't normal. But that doesn't mean it's unacceptable. Shocking thought.
I think we should take note of what Bishop is saying. He is a senior pro who has vast experience. If he is saying the booing and comments are affecting performances, then let's act on that. Stop the booing.
Also you need to understand how the booing affects the rest of the fans. It simply makes it a toxic atmosphere and not a place you want to come back too. Children in particular. The team wins and some of the fans boo. Strange!
Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:In all honesty, Bishop should put his big boy pants on and allow themselves as players and more importantly the manager to account for this seasons showings on the pitch.
Comments like what Dempster received about f'ing off and dying are obviously filed under abuse, which is unacceptable and normal people don't make those comments. However, the booing, the Dempster out chance, the criticism of players/managers ineptitude at full time isn't out of place in my book. They are the soundings off of (rightly) angry fans who have forked out 25 quid to see utter toss yet again from their team.
They are all absolutely miles off it. Bishop thinks it's because of last season, Broughton walked off yesterday shaking his head at the booing, Dempster walked off with hands out as if to ask 'why are you booing?'... are they that clueless? Do they genuinely believe that they're doing alright and performances and results improving? Baffling.
The usual suspects will give it the old 'gEt BeHinD tHe TeAm, CaLL yOuRsElF a FaN' but that's as stupid as Bishop's ramblings. Booing your own team is not as counter-productive as people think. Fans are allowed after this abomination of a season's start to voice there opinion. The product we are paying for is flipping dreadful. Sorry to say, but for the people that like to think for themselves, we aren't prepared to just sing and clap along come what may. Without criticism, you don't progress. Booing after a win (as someone earlier mentioned in the thread) isn't normal. But that doesn't mean it's unacceptable. Shocking thought.
I think we should take note of what Bishop is saying. He is a senior pro who has vast experience. If he is saying the booing and comments are affecting performances, then let's act on that. Stop the booing.
Also you need to understand how the booing affects the rest of the fans. It simply makes it a toxic atmosphere and not a place you want to come back too. Children in particular. The team wins and some of the fans boo. Strange!
BH_Stag wrote:Amber Andy wrote:WVStag wrote:In all honesty, Bishop should put his big boy pants on and allow themselves as players and more importantly the manager to account for this seasons showings on the pitch.
Comments like what Dempster received about f'ing off and dying are obviously filed under abuse, which is unacceptable and normal people don't make those comments. However, the booing, the Dempster out chance, the criticism of players/managers ineptitude at full time isn't out of place in my book. They are the soundings off of (rightly) angry fans who have forked out 25 quid to see utter toss yet again from their team.
They are all absolutely miles off it. Bishop thinks it's because of last season, Broughton walked off yesterday shaking his head at the booing, Dempster walked off with hands out as if to ask 'why are you booing?'... are they that clueless? Do they genuinely believe that they're doing alright and performances and results improving? Baffling.
The usual suspects will give it the old 'gEt BeHinD tHe TeAm, CaLL yOuRsElF a FaN' but that's as stupid as Bishop's ramblings. Booing your own team is not as counter-productive as people think. Fans are allowed after this abomination of a season's start to voice there opinion. The product we are paying for is flipping dreadful. Sorry to say, but for the people that like to think for themselves, we aren't prepared to just sing and clap along come what may. Without criticism, you don't progress. Booing after a win (as someone earlier mentioned in the thread) isn't normal. But that doesn't mean it's unacceptable. Shocking thought.
I think we should take note of what Bishop is saying. He is a senior pro who has vast experience. If he is saying the booing and comments are affecting performances, then let's act on that. Stop the booing.
Also you need to understand how the booing affects the rest of the fans. It simply makes it a toxic atmosphere and not a place you want to come back too. Children in particular. The team wins and some of the fans boo. Strange!
The boo’ing isn’t just a flippant result off the back of one game. It’s a build up of numerous poor results and performances at home. Bishop has a lot of experience yes, but I’d have thought he’d be a bit thicker skinned and would be wise to the fact that the reaction is down to what we have seen THIS year. To put it down to last seasons ending is ridiculous, but maybe that’s just convenient for him considering he’s been poor all season.
KirkbyStag2 wrote:I don't think the fans are booing because of last season, I think the booing is a accumulation of this seasons home results,
Stags 2-2 Morecambe (Stags lost on penalties)
Stags 2-2 Morecambe
Stags 2-3 Orient
Stags 0-0 Stevenage
Stags 0-4 Cambridge
Stags 0-1 Plymouth
Stags 1-2 Salford
Stags 2-3 Colchester
Despite a Top 3 budget, only 2 teams have gained less points at home this season than Stags, and they (Walsall & Morecambe) are in the bottom 3.
Stags,
11 points behind top of the table
7 points from bottom of the table
wardy12345 wrote:Booing players is never good, but it would be good if one of the players came and watched the game in the upper west stand then they would understand why the fans are getting so upset.
EdwinstoweStag wrote:Bishop was my Play of the Season last year. Sure, he lost his edge in the second half and, at his age, should that be a surprise? This year, he has lost another yard of pace in his legs. Trouble is, his legs haven’t told his brain. He is regularly over-reaching and consequently more-often-than-not he frequently loses his player, gets frustrated, the lunges about in a way that will get him a collection of cards before the season ends.
Against Chorley, he allowed one of their players to rile him and he wasted too much time and energy “having a go” at him, whilst neglecting his role. He just needed to ask the lad how much he was paid and offer to lend him a few quid!
Neal Bishop is still totally committed and he has been an excellent acquisition. However, he needs resting if we are to get the best out of him, for what I suspect will be his last season as a player.
I’d like to see the club find him a coaching role - UNDER AN EXPERIENCED MANAGER, as I reckon he could well turn out to be a better manager than the present incumbent.
Jamie wrote:Amber Andy. Given the booing happened after the game I dont see how it affected the performance what so ever. If the players are down this week then the manager needs to pick them back up. Or better still perhaps as a senior pro Bish could have a word with his gaffer and ask why they set up and play so defensively.
Also as someone else said. How else do we express our displeasure as such negativity from our manager?
The only way this will change now is either JD leaving or waking up to the fact that his negative approach is going to cost him his job sooner rather than later. Grow some balls man and go for it. You lack of desire to do anything other than scrapping a win is blowing the best chance you may ever get to manage a professional club. Its now or never...
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