Scared to lose

[Stags 2002]

Steve also said on Facebook":

"Interestingly Colchester are a club that promoted the manager through the club academy and look where they are now .United away in the quarters. They also sold £2m pound worth of talent last year to keep the club buoyant . Their directors said their fans don’t like it either but needs must . Food for thought ..."

Yep look where they are now, in exactly the same league as when he was appointed.

The club can’t get the message straight. Either we’re going for promotion with a top 3 budget or were cutting our cloth and trying to become a club who relies on selling youth players. Which is it?

Your right about the club lacking a clear coherent message from the directors as it depends who you speak to. Radfords want promotion, Hymas wants his 5 year plan to succeed therefore in his eyes everything is rosey with the world.

I renewed my season tickets for the season so will continue to support the team for the remainder however if things remain as they are come the end of the season questions will be asked and I doubt I'll be spending another grand on season tickets if it's going to be another season of JD learning his trade. It would be tolerable if it was entertaining to watch but our home form is nothing short of painful at the moment (Oldham aside) and there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

[adamstag]

Steve Hymas needs to be removed asap. Buying your way into making big decisions for the club is ridiculous.

You do come out with some tosh

Well Hymas and the amigos should always go down in Mansfield folklore from saving us from oblivion after the disaster of “him”

However, it appears that the appointment of dempster was mainly down to Hymas and whether you agreed with flitcroft being sacked or not - it was a ridiculous decision and has backfired majorly.

With tisdale and jones about and our thoroughly sham of a season to date I expect him to be sacked this week.

[EdwinstoweStag]

Steve Hymas needs to be removed asap. Buying your way into making big decisions for the club is ridiculous.

You do come out with some tosh

Well Hymas and the amigos should always go down in Mansfield folklore from saving us from oblivion after the disaster of “him”

However, it appears that the appointment of dempster was mainly down to Hymas and whether you agreed with flitcroft being sacked or not - it was a ridiculous decision and has backfired majorly.

With tisdale and jones about and our thoroughly sham of a season to date I expect him to be sacked this week.

Didn’t Steve Hymas thump Voldemort?

[geoffhill]

I am a supporter and a season ticket holder have been for years.The club is in the best financial position for years thanks to JR long may it continue.Colchester were the best side so far this season.Their movement and quickness of thought made us look pedestrian.Agree leaving nobody up the field when thy have a corner is ridiculous.Bishop has had his day.Mellis and CJ to start then we will look better.

[gazza1988]

I am a supporter and a season ticket holder have been for years.The club is in the best financial position for years thanks to JR long may it continue.Colchester were the best side so far this season.Their movement and quickness of thought made us look pedestrian.Agree leaving nobody up the field when thy have a corner is ridiculous.Bishop has had his day.Mellis and CJ to start then we will look better.

The problem most have is that we were Colchester at this point last season. The team just starting to gel and turn the early season draws into wins.

[tuopolfpilf]

JR runs a multi million pound business One Call insurance, while he is away from his empire, who does he leave in charge?
I doubt very much it is someone with NO previous experience
The same can be said of SH , while away from his building construction business, who does he employ as Site manager?
Someone with a bit of DIY experience at home?
So why give the managers job to JD ? What was on his CV to make these successful business men employ him?

[gazza1988]

JR runs a multi million pound business One Call insurance, while he is away from his empire, who does he leave in charge?
I doubt very much it is someone with NO previous experience
The same can be said of SH , while away from his building construction business, who does he employ as Site manager?
Someone with a bit of DIY experience at home?
So why give the managers job to JD ? What was on his CV to make these successful business men employ him?

3 league titles?

[Tippy Tappy Football]

I'm sure JR has successfully promoted staff within One Call.

[BH_Stag]

JR runs a multi million pound business One Call insurance, while he is away from his empire, who does he leave in charge?
I doubt very much it is someone with NO previous experience
The same can be said of SH , while away from his building construction business, who does he employ as Site manager?
Someone with a bit of DIY experience at home?
So why give the managers job to JD ? What was on his CV to make these successful business men employ him?

3 league titles?

Completely different kettle of fish.

[I am Spartacus]

To be fair I don’t think we are scared to lose, we seem to be rather adept at losing this season.

[west country stag]

Steve Hymas needs to be removed asap. Buying your way into making big decisions for the club is ridiculous.

You do come out with some tosh

Well Hymas and the amigos should always go down in Mansfield folklore from saving us from oblivion after the disaster of “him”

However, it appears that the appointment of dempster was mainly down to Hymas and whether you agreed with flitcroft being sacked or not - it was a ridiculous decision and has backfired majorly.

With tisdale and jones about and our thoroughly sham of a season to date I expect him to be sacked this week.

[Amber Andy]

JR runs a multi million pound business One Call insurance, while he is away from his empire, who does he leave in charge?
I doubt very much it is someone with NO previous experience
The same can be said of SH , while away from his building construction business, who does he employ as Site manager?
Someone with a bit of DIY experience at home?
So why give the managers job to JD ? What was on his CV to make these successful business men employ him?

3 league titles?

I think that's a fair point.

Perhaps on his record with the youth team JD deserved a chance with the first team. Sometimes it works but more often than not it doesn't.

I think we have now got to the stage where JR and the board need to have a serious look as to whether JD is performing to their expectations. For me the boards expectatations of promotion with JD in his first season was much too high.

I also think a statement from the club regarding the manager's position and whether or not they still expect us to be challenging for promotion this season is needed.

[PEAR CIDER]

The abuse the board is getting in particular steve is not cool. If these people leave, who love the club and put in their own cash, then JR will need to find new board members who are willing to put cash in to fill the void. I cannot imagine there being too many people out there willing to do what they do.

Steve and the board may have all agreed that JD was the man for the job. I can see why they did it. Obviously its not working as it stands and they have some key decisions to make or break us. JD may even succeed which if kept, is another key decision, who knows?

But please cut them some slack in terms of abuse. Many feel dempster isnt good enough now and want him out, that if fair but dont take it to the next level and alienate the people who are funding the club and its infrastructure.

[Chrisuknottm]

The abuse the board is getting in particular steve is not cool. If these people leave, who love the club and put in their own cash, then JR will need to find new board members who are willing to put cash in to fill the void. I cannot imagine there being too many people out there willing to do what they do.

Steve and the board may have all agreed that JD was the man for the job. I can see why they did it. Obviously its not working as it stands and they have some key decisions to make or break us. JD may even succeed which if kept, is another key decision, who knows?

But please cut them some slack in terms of abuse. Many feel dempster isnt good enough now and want him out, that if fair but dont take it to the next level and alienate the people who are funding the club and its infrastructure.

When those people patronise and condescend to us trying to whitewash what many of us said was an awful decision and has turned out that way then we have the right of reply

[Spiritater]

JR runs a multi million pound business One Call insurance, while he is away from his empire, who does he leave in charge?
I doubt very much it is someone with NO previous experience
The same can be said of SH , while away from his building construction business, who does he employ as Site manager?
Someone with a bit of DIY experience at home?
So why give the managers job to JD ? What was on his CV to make these successful business men employ him?

3 league titles?

I think that's a fair point.

Perhaps on his record with the youth team JD deserved a chance with the first team. Sometimes it works but more often than not it doesn't.

I think we have now got to the stage where JR and the board need to have a serious look as to whether JD is performing to their expectations. For me the boards expectatations of promotion with JD in his first season was much too high.

I also think a statement from the club regarding the manager's position and whether or not they still expect us to be challenging for promotion this season is needed.

What d'ya mean, the dreaded vote of confidence?

[Spiritater]

The abuse the board is getting in particular steve is not cool. If these people leave, who love the club and put in their own cash, then JR will need to find new board members who are willing to put cash in to fill the void. I cannot imagine there being too many people out there willing to do what they do.

Steve and the board may have all agreed that JD was the man for the job. I can see why they did it. Obviously its not working as it stands and they have some key decisions to make or break us. JD may even succeed which if kept, is another key decision, who knows?

But please cut them some slack in terms of abuse. Many feel dempster isnt good enough now and want him out, that if fair but dont take it to the next level and alienate the people who are funding the club and its infrastructure.

When those people patronise and condescend to us trying to whitewash what many of us said was an awful decision and has turned out that way then we have the right of reply

Well of course you do, but some on here want Steve out and to me that's utterly wrong. Without him the first team probably would be looking for some shyt strewn park to train on

[yellowstagsfan]

Problem was on Saturday, Everytime Gordon went forward down the right wing we were expecting Macca to fill in at right back and we know what happen then ( A la MK Dons )
No pace and can’t get back in time

[PEAR CIDER]

The abuse the board is getting in particular steve is not cool. If these people leave, who love the club and put in their own cash, then JR will need to find new board members who are willing to put cash in to fill the void. I cannot imagine there being too many people out there willing to do what they do.

Steve and the board may have all agreed that JD was the man for the job. I can see why they did it. Obviously its not working as it stands and they have some key decisions to make or break us. JD may even succeed which if kept, is another key decision, who knows?

But please cut them some slack in terms of abuse. Many feel dempster isnt good enough now and want him out, that if fair but dont take it to the next level and alienate the people who are funding the club and its infrastructure.

When those people patronise and condescend to us trying to whitewash what many of us said was an awful decision and has turned out that way then we have the right of reply

Maybe its shaping up to be a bad decision, had it have turned out to be a masterplan then we wouldn't be complaining. In all walks of life potentially bad decisions are made - the point i'm making, how is trying to hound someone outgoing to solve anything?

[Chrisuknottm]

The abuse the board is getting in particular steve is not cool. If these people leave, who love the club and put in their own cash, then JR will need to find new board members who are willing to put cash in to fill the void. I cannot imagine there being too many people out there willing to do what they do.

Steve and the board may have all agreed that JD was the man for the job. I can see why they did it. Obviously its not working as it stands and they have some key decisions to make or break us. JD may even succeed which if kept, is another key decision, who knows?

But please cut them some slack in terms of abuse. Many feel dempster isnt good enough now and want him out, that if fair but dont take it to the next level and alienate the people who are funding the club and its infrastructure.

When those people patronise and condescend to us trying to whitewash what many of us said was an awful decision and has turned out that way then we have the right of reply

Maybe its shaping up to be a bad decision, had it have turned out to be a masterplan then we wouldn't be complaining. In all walks of life potentially bad decisions are made - the point i'm making, how is trying to hound someone outgoing to solve anything?

Most aren't trying to hound Mr Hymas out they are simply replying to his point of view and seemingly vested interest involvement in what has been a defining decision. We simply want the club to acknowledge that this awful appointment hasn't worked, swallow their pride and get in an experienced manager we can get behind and support wholeheartedly...not simply decry the overwhelming evidence that his has been a failure and is splitting the club.

[The One]

Following the Colchester model worries me aspiration wise.

[PEAR CIDER]

The abuse the board is getting in particular steve is not cool. If these people leave, who love the club and put in their own cash, then JR will need to find new board members who are willing to put cash in to fill the void. I cannot imagine there being too many people out there willing to do what they do.

Steve and the board may have all agreed that JD was the man for the job. I can see why they did it. Obviously its not working as it stands and they have some key decisions to make or break us. JD may even succeed which if kept, is another key decision, who knows?

But please cut them some slack in terms of abuse. Many feel dempster isnt good enough now and want him out, that if fair but dont take it to the next level and alienate the people who are funding the club and its infrastructure.

When those people patronise and condescend to us trying to whitewash what many of us said was an awful decision and has turned out that way then we have the right of reply

Maybe its shaping up to be a bad decision, had it have turned out to be a masterplan then we wouldn't be complaining. In all walks of life potentially bad decisions are made - the point i'm making, how is trying to hound someone outgoing to solve anything?

Most aren't trying to hound Mr Hymas out they are simply replying to his point of view and seemingly vested interest involvement in what has been a defining decision. We simply want the club to acknowledge that this awful appointment hasn't worked, swallow their pride and get in an experienced manager we can get behind and support wholeheartedly...not simply decry the overwhelming evidence that his has been a failure and is splitting the club.

I've seen about 8 different posts on here saying Hymas out. They (the board / JR) cannot come out and say it is a wrong appointment unless he is being replaced. If he isn't being replaced then they cannot say its an incorrect appointment. Although a recent post from Hymas suggesting you cannot change manager every 6 months is sort of suggesting the appointment isnt working without directly saying it. he'll know people are far from happy about the current situation and believe me, he'll also be feeling 'upset' that we are not up there.

[Bros]

Last season we had 17 clean sheets in the league with 10 of them coming in the first half. In fact up to Hayden White's injury there were 12. We had a regular back 5 of White Preston Pearce Sweeney and Bennimg. This season with injuries and suspensions we have rarely fielded the same back 4 for more than 2 games running. Perhaps this is one reason we seem so fragile at the back

[EdwinstoweStag]

It’ll all be hunky dory when Davies is fit!

[Amber Andy]

Why would anyone want to see the back of Steve or anyone on the board for that matter ? That would be crazy.

I do think a statement from the club regarding the club's current league position would be helpful though. Especially as they indicated, when JD was appointed, that promotion this season was the aim.

[WVStag]

Why would anyone want to see the back of Steve or anyone on the board for that matter ? That would be crazy.

Why would that be crazy?