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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby stagsfan6493 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:30 pm

marker_mtfc95 wrote:You pay your money say what you want. As long as not racist, homophobic or abusive then say what you like. Freedom of speech, you don’t like it tough ****.

Everyone agrees with that - I think most are saying it’s very counterproductive.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Sneag » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:48 pm

stagsfan6493 wrote:
marker_mtfc95 wrote:You pay your money say what you want. As long as not racist, homophobic or abusive then say what you like. Freedom of speech, you don’t like it tough ****.

Everyone agrees with that - I think most are saying it’s very counterproductive.


The problem with the 'I pays my money I says what I want' types, is that they are nearly always abusive.
And if you're okay with that then, you'd have to be okay if someone not sharing their opinion told them to 'shut the raspberry up' it's free speech afterall.
I thought the non playing squad members did well not to react to the raspberry in J Block hurling abuse at Mellis today.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby marker_mtfc95 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:16 pm

Sneag wrote:
stagsfan6493 wrote:
marker_mtfc95 wrote:You pay your money say what you want. As long as not racist, homophobic or abusive then say what you like. Freedom of speech, you don’t like it tough ****.

Everyone agrees with that - I think most are saying it’s very counterproductive.


The problem with the 'I pays my money I says what I want' types, is that they are nearly always abusive.
And if you're okay with that then, you'd have to be okay if someone not sharing their opinion told them to 'shut the raspberry up' it's free speech afterall.
I thought the non playing squad members did well not to react to the raspberry in J Block hurling abuse at Mellis today.


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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby yorkshire stag » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:27 pm

marker_mtfc95 wrote:
Sneag wrote:
stagsfan6493 wrote:
marker_mtfc95 wrote:You pay your money say what you want. As long as not racist, homophobic or abusive then say what you like. Freedom of speech, you don’t like it tough ****.

Everyone agrees with that - I think most are saying it’s very counterproductive.


The problem with the 'I pays my money I says what I want' types, is that they are nearly always abusive.
And if you're okay with that then, you'd have to be okay if someone not sharing their opinion told them to 'shut the raspberry up' it's free speech afterall.
I thought the non playing squad members did well not to react to the raspberry in J Block hurling abuse at Mellis today.


man this happens in every football club in the land, rightly or wrongly raspberries happens, deal with it !

it int never gonna change, football always has and always will attract this type of person

some people just need to get over themselves

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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:38 pm

I told Otis Khan before the game that he was playing well and was unlucky to be subbed on Tuesday night. It was a bad substitution by JD to replace Otis with Alistair Smith and helped hand the game to Orient. However JD got it bang on today by subbing Otis as he was not producing anything and looked off the pace. Omari Sterling-James did have an impact on the game and should have won us a penalty.

We need to give JD some slack because of the injuries although a few fans said to me today that they could not understand why JR had appointed a rookie manager after spending a fortune on our playing squad and that it did not seem to make sense. It would have been better for him to spend his money trying to recruit someone like Ryan Lowe from Bury.

My only frustration with JD today is why do we bring everybody back for free kicks and corners and leave nobody up front. It gives us no out ball and just means that the ball will just come right back at us after we have cleared it. I have never understood this tactic. We might as well leave CJ up front because a) he is quick and can chase a clearance to put the defence under pressure; and b) he is generally hopeless at heading the ball.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Grendon Stag » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:48 pm

Chrisuknottm wrote:
spanishstag wrote:
Chrisuknottm wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:i guess because it’s frustrating & emotional this supporting the Stags passion we all have, some people just show it in different ways

never forget we all go because we are Stags fans


Yep. But abusing the manager when he’s trying to do his job is silly and counterproductive. If I was trying to do my job and someone started shouting at me and putting me off it wouldn’t help.

And people should get some perspective. We aren’t bottom of the league.


But we will be if this carries on....apart from Newport we haven't played a rated team yet. Be honest most of us are waiting for The Radfords to realise they've made a mistake so we can have some faith again . He got a bye today because the fans realised he didn't have a full hand but that won't last much longer.

By the way will someone explain to me what value is it that goalkeeping coach running up mid half to show JD a tablet screen?? Think he couldn't see what was happening ????

We will be play offs minimum so just chill dipshit


Cut the abuse Spanish. I hold a different opinion to you that's all.


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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby spanishstag » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:19 am

Dont worry ,some of them hunt like a pack of wolves on here ,dont like it when they get it back , :coys:
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby west country stag » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:03 am

I personally would have substituted CJ yesterday he did absolutely nothing & i think his head has been turned again .
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Spiritater » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:17 am

marker_mtfc95 wrote:You pay your money say what you want. As long as not racist, homophobic or abusive then say what you like. Freedom of speech, you don’t like it tough ****.

The only person that attitude will help is you. Bravo :clap: :clap:
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby PEAR CIDER » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:18 am

Id love to see that stats on cj

Pretty sure he covered more ground than anyone yesterday in scorching heat. He made runs and put a few good balls into the box which were not converted

His touch let him down on many occasions but to say he did nothing and has no commitment is just a blatent lie.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby MansfieldMick » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:42 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:I told Otis Khan before the game that he was playing well and was unlucky to be subbed on Tuesday night. It was a bad substitution by JD to replace Otis with Alistair Smith and helped hand the game to Orient. However JD got it bang on today by subbing Otis as he was not producing anything and looked off the pace. Omari Sterling-James did have an impact on the game and should have won us a penalty.

We need to give JD some slack because of the injuries although a few fans said to me today that they could not understand why JR had appointed a rookie manager after spending a fortune on our playing squad and that it did not seem to make sense. It would have been better for him to spend his money trying to recruit someone like Ryan Lowe from Bury.

My only frustration with JD today is why do we bring everybody back for free kicks and corners and leave nobody up front. It gives us no out ball and just means that the ball will just come right back at us after we have cleared it. I have never understood this tactic. We might as well leave CJ up front because a) he is quick and can chase a clearance to put the defence under pressure; and b) he is generally hopeless at heading the ball.


Good Post, we commented the same, we had 10 in the box defending a free kick, they had 4 players in. Push CJ and Danny up to give us an outlet.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Hon Sec » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:28 am

MansfieldMick wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:I told Otis Khan before the game that he was playing well and was unlucky to be subbed on Tuesday night. It was a bad substitution by JD to replace Otis with Alistair Smith and helped hand the game to Orient. However JD got it bang on today by subbing Otis as he was not producing anything and looked off the pace. Omari Sterling-James did have an impact on the game and should have won us a penalty.

We need to give JD some slack because of the injuries although a few fans said to me today that they could not understand why JR had appointed a rookie manager after spending a fortune on our playing squad and that it did not seem to make sense. It would have been better for him to spend his money trying to recruit someone like Ryan Lowe from Bury.

My only frustration with JD today is why do we bring everybody back for free kicks and corners and leave nobody up front. It gives us no out ball and just means that the ball will just come right back at us after we have cleared it. I have never understood this tactic. We might as well leave CJ up front because a) he is quick and can chase a clearance to put the defence under pressure; and b) he is generally hopeless at heading the ball.


Good Post, we commented the same, we had 10 in the box defending a free kick, they had 4 players in. Push CJ and Danny up to give us an outlet.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby bellwhiff » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:29 am

marker_mtfc95 wrote:You pay your money say what you want. As long as not racist, homophobic or abusive then say what you like. Freedom of speech, you don’t like it tough ****.

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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Hon Sec » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:31 am

If he’s on the pitch I would always keep CJ up as he is fast, not sure about Danny, he can get his head in there in defence.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby lifestags » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:33 am

I think we all have to cut him some slack at the minute, he hasn't had his best squad to pick from at all this season. we are so short on numbers at the moment. Wait until we get a few back and then judge him.

It's a confidence thing at the minute I think eventually we will try and play some football, we just need to make sure that defence is organised.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby gavinbrookes » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:24 am

I don't happen to agree with the 'I pay my money I say what I like' logic. That's not how things work in any other aspect of life. We have a right to boo but not to yell personal abuse.

Of course Dempster needs time. My main concern is that I can't see what he is trying to implement. You could see what DF was trying to do, and there was a marked difference in the style of play between him and Evans. Okay, the style waned as the season went on, probably because of a mix of lack of confidence and the fitness levels required to play pressing football. However, at least the intention was there. I still can't really fathom what type of team JD wants us to be. We haven't got an identity (yet).
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby bigalstag » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:26 am

Got to have something to get behind, not the stale,Murrayesque football that's being played, by whatever unfit team, this manager puts out.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:44 am

gavinbrookes wrote:I don't happen to agree with the 'I pay my money I say what I like' logic. That's not how things work in any other aspect of life. We have a right to boo but not to yell personal abuse.

Of course Dempster needs time. My main concern is that I can't see what he is trying to implement. You could see what DF was trying to do, and there was a marked difference in the style of play between him and Evans. Okay, the style waned as the season went on, probably because of a mix of lack of confidence and the fitness levels required to play pressing football. However, at least the intention was there. I still can't really fathom what type of team JD wants us to be. We haven't got an identity (yet).


Hardly surprising with all of the enforced changes. Wait until he has a settled side and I'm sure you will see a plan a and a plan b emerge.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:57 am

Hon Sec wrote:If he’s on the pitch I would always keep CJ up as he is fast, not sure about Danny, he can get his head in there in defence.


I agree about Danny. He is one of our best headers so I would bring him back for set pieces just like Paul Cox used to do with Matt Rhead.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Conker » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:03 am

He's had six competitive games in his career, you got to give him some slack all considered.

One thing I am not willing to let him off with is how every single player is in our box for a Stevenage corner. idiotic at best and i don't understand how that's not been dealt with?
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby georgefostersbeard » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:10 am

bigalstag wrote:Got to have something to get behind, not the stale,Murrayesque football that's being played, by whatever unfit team, this manager puts out.



I don't remember Murray playing some of the football that Dempster is clearly trying to play. They are not getting it right and there is a long way to go but this is so wide of the mark. Look back at the video of Bennings miss against Morecambe with over a minute and a half of flowing football leading up to the chance. Yesterday, Macca should have scored after a fantastic move which was replicated several times but not enough.

Dempster is trying to do something different and is stymied by injuries, suspensions and, i suspect, lack of experience as a league manager but what you are projecting as truth is utter nonsense
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:20 am

No one can be happy with how we've started the season. Injuries, suspensions and off field problems, even when taken into account, can't fully justify our performances against the poorer sides in league 2, except Carlisle.

The season Cox got the push he had a horrendous number of players out injured. It still didn't matter he got sacked.

I'm not saying JD should get the sack at the present time, but how long can this go on, IF, promotion is the aim this season ?

I will support JD and the team, but things arnt looking too good at the moment.
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby georgefostersbeard » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:32 am

The context was different for Cox as he had had time and things were poor for a while. I also don't think there was enough clarity on how things were going to improve even when people came back
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:57 am

Paul Cox also had his budget slashed to around £800,000 and was having to sign players for buttons who had very little league experience. If he had been able to sign quality players who suited his style of play then there is no reason why we couldn't have built a competitive side with Matt Rhead, John Akinde and Lucas Akins up front :lol:
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Re: Anti Demps abuse

Postby Sneag » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:57 am

georgefostersbeard wrote:The context was different for Cox as he had had time and things were poor for a while. I also don't think there was enough clarity on how things were going to improve even when people came back


I think Cox effectively sacked himself when we'd gone something like 10 games without a win, and when challenged on it his retort was like '10 games that's nowt, we went 12 last year!' I think at that point JR's patience ran out.
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