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by georgefostersbeard » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:01 am
Amber Andy wrote:spanishstag wrote:yorkshire stag wrote:spanishstag wrote:Just another rshole
your language this season is extremely blue, observation not a criticism fella
Its probably down to the fact ,that we seem to getting more critical posts on here than i can ever remember ,i dont think i have ever read so much vitriolic critiscism of a manager on here for quite a while ,even though we are not a million miles away from getting it right imo
The last two managers (SE and DF ), had more "vitriolic criticism" on here than JD has had so far Spanishstag.
But not during the honeymoon period. The abuse for a new manager has been vitriolic in some cases and idiotic in many.
There were people shouting Dempster out after 23 minutes of the FIRST home game. he was being roundly abused for the last twenty minutes of the first half of his first home game. I don't remember Flitcroft or Evans getting that until much later on
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by old ram stag » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:08 am
I think alot of fans felt that pre season had not been as productive as it could have been, we played too many under 21 sides that do not reflect our up coming opponents, also that the last time we got a win at the mill was Easter friday against Morecambe 4.0, and then this season they knock us out the cup with 10 men and take a league point from us in the space of a week.
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by bobbystagsfan » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:21 am
old ram stag wrote:I think alot of fans felt that pre season had not been as productive as it could have been, we played too many under 21 sides that do not reflect our up coming opponents, also that the last time we got a win at the mill was Easter friday against Morecambe 4.0, and then this season they knock us out the cup with 10 men and take a league point from us in the space of a week.
We arranged friendlies with championship teams, it's out of our hands if they send youth teams or not so can't see why you're complaining there.
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by old ram stag » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:42 am
I'm not blaming anyone for that but it happened and j for one didn't feel we gained much, when setting up these fixtures we should be making sure we are to benefit from the game, if not play hard working lower league clubs like county or chesterfield
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by Amber Andy » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:51 am
bobbystagsfan wrote:old ram stag wrote:I think alot of fans felt that pre season had not been as productive as it could have been, we played too many under 21 sides that do not reflect our up coming opponents, also that the last time we got a win at the mill was Easter friday against Morecambe 4.0, and then this season they knock us out the cup with 10 men and take a league point from us in the space of a week.
We arranged friendlies with championship teams, it's out of our hands if they send youth teams or not so can't see why you're complaining there.
Whilst I agree with that Bobby, we then arrange our last friendly with Glasgow Rangers youth. I know the Stockport game was unbelievably cancelled on police advice, but instead of playing a youth side we should have arranged something more appropriate to League 2. Whilst not wanting for JD to be sacked preseason was poor.
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by Amber Andy » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:01 pm
georgefostersbeard wrote:Amber Andy wrote:spanishstag wrote:yorkshire stag wrote:spanishstag wrote:Just another rshole
your language this season is extremely blue, observation not a criticism fella
Its probably down to the fact ,that we seem to getting more critical posts on here than i can ever remember ,i dont think i have ever read so much vitriolic critiscism of a manager on here for quite a while ,even though we are not a million miles away from getting it right imo
The last two managers (SE and DF ), had more "vitriolic criticism" on here than JD has had so far Spanishstag.
But not during the honeymoon period. The abuse for a new manager has been vitriolic in some cases and idiotic in many.
There were people shouting Dempster out after 23 minutes of the FIRST home game. he was being roundly abused for the last twenty minutes of the first half of his first home game. I don't remember Flitcroft or Evans getting that until much later on
I didn't know that. I couldn't get to the first game. That is unacceptable.
I was comparing what was put on here when comparing JD to SE and DF. At least JD hasn't inherited cringeworthy nicknames such as Flip Flop. Well so far. I'm sure one will appear if things continue as they are.
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by arsene wengers coat » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:27 pm
It's just very lacklustre.
I didn't expect JD to be this insipid. It resonates to the players and the fans.
Results have been below that expected and our biggest ever transfer fee signing hasn't been picked yet and our dangerman CJ looks lost.
It all rests at the managers door.
The 'abuse' (criticism) is warranted in my opinion.
You've got to go there and come back, to know where you've been.
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by MTFCMAD » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:37 pm
arsene wengers coat wrote:It's just very lacklustre.
I didn't expect JD to be this insipid. It resonates to the players and the fans.
Results have been below that expected and our biggest ever transfer fee signing hasn't been picked yet and our dangerman CJ looks lost.
It all rests at the managers door.
The 'abuse' (criticism) is warranted in my opinion.
Lee Angol doesn’t play for us no more.
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by bigalstag » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:01 pm
No, he plays for another side that beat us at home. One that had just come up from non league!
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by MTFCMAD » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:20 pm
bigalstag wrote:No, he plays for another side that beat us at home. One that had just come up from non league!
cool story bro
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by arsene wengers coat » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:25 pm
Cook.
You've got to go there and come back, to know where you've been.
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by Big yella » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:48 pm
nick_stags wrote:georgefostersbeard wrote:old ram stag wrote:yes I get that cass but it's on and off the pitch, on the pitch i see a lack of purpose and tactics, they are good players that don't seem to have match guidance, off the pitch is a lack of discipline fitness and professionalism, I hope it does improve and in a month we are all singing his name.
The fitness issue is now important. The manager said that the tracking software had put them as fitter than last year but some fans are saying they are not fit. Personally i wouldn't have a clue as in my head i can't remember what the fitness levels were like at the start of last season.
I do remember fans saying that Bury and Swindon fans had criticised Flitcroft for over training players.
My point is either the software is wrong, the manager is lying or fan perceptions are wrong
My pretty clear IMO which of those is most likely.
There has been nothing to suggest the players are unfit, literally nothing at all.
You mean apart from Logan's 3 inch love handles, and double C moobs, don't you?
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by georgefostersbeard » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:09 pm
Big yella wrote:nick_stags wrote:georgefostersbeard wrote:old ram stag wrote:yes I get that cass but it's on and off the pitch, on the pitch i see a lack of purpose and tactics, they are good players that don't seem to have match guidance, off the pitch is a lack of discipline fitness and professionalism, I hope it does improve and in a month we are all singing his name.
The fitness issue is now important. The manager said that the tracking software had put them as fitter than last year but some fans are saying they are not fit. Personally i wouldn't have a clue as in my head i can't remember what the fitness levels were like at the start of last season.
I do remember fans saying that Bury and Swindon fans had criticised Flitcroft for over training players.
My point is either the software is wrong, the manager is lying or fan perceptions are wrong
My pretty clear IMO which of those is most likely.
There has been nothing to suggest the players are unfit, literally nothing at all.
You mean apart from Logan's 3 inch love handles, and double C moobs, don't you?
The criticism of Logan's size has moved to a perceived wisdom amongst anti Dempster poster that the squad IS unfit. Not that they believe they are unfit, but that it is a fact.
All i am saying is that either the software is wrong, the manager is lying or the fans are wrong
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by Sneag » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:18 pm
I think Logan is carrying too much timber, but I don't think the squad is unfit.
I think they may give the impression they are unfit because so for this season our build up play has seemed very pedestrian.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
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by I am Spartacus » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:52 pm
Big yella wrote:nick_stags wrote:georgefostersbeard wrote:old ram stag wrote:yes I get that cass but it's on and off the pitch, on the pitch i see a lack of purpose and tactics, they are good players that don't seem to have match guidance, off the pitch is a lack of discipline fitness and professionalism, I hope it does improve and in a month we are all singing his name.
The fitness issue is now important. The manager said that the tracking software had put them as fitter than last year but some fans are saying they are not fit. Personally i wouldn't have a clue as in my head i can't remember what the fitness levels were like at the start of last season.
I do remember fans saying that Bury and Swindon fans had criticised Flitcroft for over training players.
My point is either the software is wrong, the manager is lying or fan perceptions are wrong
My pretty clear IMO which of those is most likely.
There has been nothing to suggest the players are unfit, literally nothing at all.
You mean apart from Logan's 3 inch love handles, and double C moobs, don't you?
Big Yella, the last time you saw Mr Pot was he calling Mr Kettle black?
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by Dave Wayne » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:21 pm
We are 1 point worse off than after the same number of games last season, despite the worst injury and suspension list I can ever remember at Field Mill.
Some people need to get a grip.
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by geoffhill » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:48 pm
I think that Craig Davies is our most expensive signing.
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by Amber Andy » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:02 pm
Dave Wayne wrote:We are 1 point worse off than after the same number of games last season, despite the worst injury and suspension list I can ever remember at Field Mill.
Some people need to get a grip.
The injuries are more than the norm. They were worse though under Cox, the season he got the sack. He was also trying to manage on a reduced budget.
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by EdwinstoweStag » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:05 pm
Amber Andy wrote:Dave Wayne wrote:We are 1 point worse off than after the same number of games last season, despite the worst injury and suspension list I can ever remember at Field Mill.
Some people need to get a grip.
The injuries are more than the norm. They were worse though under Cox, the season he got the sack. He was also trying to manage on a reduced budget.
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by nick_stags » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:19 pm
Big yella wrote:nick_stags wrote:georgefostersbeard wrote:old ram stag wrote:yes I get that cass but it's on and off the pitch, on the pitch i see a lack of purpose and tactics, they are good players that don't seem to have match guidance, off the pitch is a lack of discipline fitness and professionalism, I hope it does improve and in a month we are all singing his name.
The fitness issue is now important. The manager said that the tracking software had put them as fitter than last year but some fans are saying they are not fit. Personally i wouldn't have a clue as in my head i can't remember what the fitness levels were like at the start of last season.
I do remember fans saying that Bury and Swindon fans had criticised Flitcroft for over training players.
My point is either the software is wrong, the manager is lying or fan perceptions are wrong
My pretty clear IMO which of those is most likely.
There has been nothing to suggest the players are unfit, literally nothing at all.
You mean apart from Logan's 3 inch love handles, and double C moobs, don't you?
Logan has been the same his whole career. It's in no way a reflection on the squad fitness levels.
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by old ram stag » Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:20 am
Logan looked alot bigger at Alfreton in pre season than he did at Newport last season in the play offs, it seemed very noticeable he was carrying weight.
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by I am Spartacus » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:44 am
old ram stag wrote:Logan looked alot bigger at Alfreton in pre season than he did at Newport last season in the play offs, it seemed very noticeable he was carrying weight.
What do you mean ‘looked’? I would like to know how you saw anything? You were that pissed you slept through the second half!!!
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by EdwinstoweStag » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:29 am
old ram stag wrote:Logan looked alot bigger at Alfreton in pre season than he did at Newport last season in the play offs, it seemed very noticeable he was carrying weight.
Let’s be fair - what few people know is that Conrad was rushing off to a themed kids party straight after the PSF at Alfreton, and he was wearing his hired “super-hero” costume under his kit.
He was going as “Michelin Man”.
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by BigGuy » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:59 am
I bet your a bundle of laughs at at BBQ.
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