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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:51 pm

What got me is when Angol thrashed it across the box (rank bad shot me thought) in the 96th minute they had 2 or 3 players to bundle it in at the far post.

If it had been the other way and CJ blazed it across would we have had men there for a tap in, I think not?
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby cassellswasmagic » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:55 pm

The trouble is whenever a cross goes in the box the fans worry. Imagine what the defence think? Logan might be ok at shot stopping, and I say ok because he makes routine saves look like worldies due to his lack of agility, but you’d be bricking it every time a soft ball goes in the box. We probably have to stick with him, but boy he’s gonna cost us big time.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby yorkshire stag » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:56 pm

did Logan put butter on his gloves at half time ?
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby nick_stags » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:00 pm

Woodclanger 1 wrote:What got me is when Angol thrashed it across the box (rank bad shot me thought) in the 96th minute they had 2 or 3 players to bundle it in at the far post.

If it had been the other way and CJ blazed it across would we have had men there for a tap in, I think not?


Probably. Scoring goals has hardly been an issue so far this season.

Back on topic. Logan is overweight and poor and I'm pretty certain Stone will do a better job.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby BH_Stag » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:02 pm

Woodclanger 1 wrote:What got me is when Angol thrashed it across the box (rank bad shot me thought) in the 96th minute they had 2 or 3 players to bundle it in at the far post.

If it had been the other way and CJ blazed it across would we have had men there for a tap in, I think not?


We never bang the door down for late winners, it’s not in our make up. Don’t think we scored a last minute winner all last season? One or two equalisers but can’t recall a winner. Evans sides nicked a few, like him or not he always went for the win late on which is something we have lacked more recently and we should have taken forward from his reign. It’s disappointing that as soon as it went 2-2, you just know we won’t turn the screw, get back on the front foot and get the winner.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby adamstag » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm

It’s hard to gauge how much he’s cost us as he the. Does ridiculous saves like the one against Newport in the playoffs.

In honesty though he’s not improved since he came here, doesn’t come for crosses - which causes chaos in the back line, slow, lumbering and indecisive.

We really need bobby back in goal ASAP
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby Random Hero » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:13 pm

Should have saved the second, shouldn’t have let the first drop through his fingers.

Four game gone and now directly involved in dropping a potential 4 points :lol:

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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby pemill » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:33 pm

He made a mistake for the 2nd goal but why were Orient getting in on goal so much, irrespective of Logan's mistake Orient were getting back into the game, the control we'd arguably had was seriously lacking after 60 minutes or so. But let's not kid ourselves that everything was hunky dory in the first half despite being 2-0 up. Logan, yes Logan made at least 4 decent saves first half.

OK so blame Logan but the problems run deeper than that, we're missing that killer instinct for one, we aren't getting Maynard into the game, and we look mighty fragile at the back.

For the first 10-15 minutes of the 2nd half they were wide open on the left, enter CJ please, as plain as day he could have destroyed them.

Blame Logan if you like but .....
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby Random Hero » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:36 pm

pemill wrote:He made a mistake for the 2nd goal but why were Orient getting in on goal so much, irrespective of Logan's mistake Orient were getting back into the game, the control we'd arguably had was seriously lacking after 60 minutes or so. But let's not kid ourselves that everything was hunky dory in the first half despite being 2-0 up. Logan, yes Logan made at least 4 decent saves first half.

OK so blame Logan but the problems run deeper than that, we're missing that killer instinct for one, we aren't getting Maynard into the game, and we look mighty fragile at the back.

For the first 10-15 minutes of the 2nd half they were wide open on the left, enter CJ please, as plain as day he could have destroyed them.

Blame Logan if you like but .....


Agreed. You have to look to the manager here.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby The One » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:36 pm

EdwinstoweStag wrote:I’d like to a little visual evidence of management fervour in our technical
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby MTFCMusings » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:40 pm

pemill wrote:He made a mistake for the 2nd goal but why were Orient getting in on goal so much, irrespective of Logan's mistake Orient were getting back into the game, the control we'd arguably had was seriously lacking after 60 minutes or so. But let's not kid ourselves that everything was hunky dory in the first half despite being 2-0 up. Logan, yes Logan made at least 4 decent saves first half.

OK so blame Logan but the problems run deeper than that, we're missing that killer instinct for one, we aren't getting Maynard into the game, and we look mighty fragile at the back.

For the first 10-15 minutes of the 2nd half they were wide open on the left, enter CJ please, as plain as day he could have destroyed them.

Blame Logan if you like but .....


Blaming Logan doesn't mean there aren't other issues.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby bigalstag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:05 am

How can you get Maynard into the game when he's sat on the bench. We sacrificed him , for an 18 year old lad, to try to hang on for the last 25 minutes. Amazing we've come to this after just 4 league games.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby The One » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:08 am

MTFCMusings wrote:
pemill wrote:He made a mistake for the 2nd goal but why were Orient getting in on goal so much, irrespective of Logan's mistake Orient were getting back into the game, the control we'd arguably had was seriously lacking after 60 minutes or so. But let's not kid ourselves that everything was hunky dory in the first half despite being 2-0 up. Logan, yes Logan made at least 4 decent saves first half.

OK so blame Logan but the problems run deeper than that, we're missing that killer instinct for one, we aren't getting Maynard into the game, and we look mighty fragile at the back.

For the first 10-15 minutes of the 2nd half they were wide open on the left, enter CJ please, as plain as day he could have destroyed them.

Blame Logan if you like but .....


Blaming Logan doesn't mean there aren't other issues.


Never had an issue in my life. Had little problems, big problems and bloody big problems. We have bloody big problems.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:29 am

bigalstag wrote:How can you get Maynard into the game when he's sat on the bench. We sacrificed him , for an 18 year old lad, to try to hang on for the last 25 minutes. Amazing we've come to this after just 4 league games.


Maynard was replaced by CJ with 16 minutes to go. Smith is 20 years old. Maynard was doing nothing.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby Nutty Stag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:10 am

Maynard came off with a knock - he put an ice pack on his left hamstring.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby spanishstag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:18 am

yorkshire stag wrote:did Logan put butter on his gloves at half time ?


It was probably dripping of his chip butties :lol:
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby Stags 2002 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:21 am

Nutty Stag wrote:Maynard came off with a knock - he put an ice pack on his left hamstring.


He pulled up half way through the first half holding his hamstring but carried on playing. He may have done more damage by doing so.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby NG17_stag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:39 am

pemill wrote:He made a mistake for the 2nd goal but why were Orient getting in on goal so much, irrespective of Logan's mistake Orient were getting back into the game, the control we'd arguably had was seriously lacking after 60 minutes or so. But let's not kid ourselves that everything was hunky dory in the first half despite being 2-0 up. Logan, yes Logan made at least 4 decent saves first half.

OK so blame Logan but the problems run deeper than that, we're missing that killer instinct for one, we aren't getting Maynard into the game, and we look mighty fragile at the back.

For the first 10-15 minutes of the 2nd half they were wide open on the left, enter CJ please, as plain as day he could have destroyed them.

Blame Logan if you like but .....


Agreed, much bigger problems at the back (although that might come from having no faith in what’s behind them). That back 5 we had last night should not be conceding 3 goals in a game all season, never mind at home to Orient. We’ve scored 2 goals in every game and won 1 in 5.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:58 am

NG17_stag wrote:
pemill wrote:He made a mistake for the 2nd goal but why were Orient getting in on goal so much, irrespective of Logan's mistake Orient were getting back into the game, the control we'd arguably had was seriously lacking after 60 minutes or so. But let's not kid ourselves that everything was hunky dory in the first half despite being 2-0 up. Logan, yes Logan made at least 4 decent saves first half.

OK so blame Logan but the problems run deeper than that, we're missing that killer instinct for one, we aren't getting Maynard into the game, and we look mighty fragile at the back.

For the first 10-15 minutes of the 2nd half they were wide open on the left, enter CJ please, as plain as day he could have destroyed them.

Blame Logan if you like but .....


Agreed, much bigger problems at the back (although that might come from having no faith in what’s behind them). That back 5 we had last night should not be conceding 3 goals in a game all season, never mind at home to Orient. We’ve scored 2 goals in every game and won 1 in 5.


A back 5 with 3 midgets in front of them, one a RW apparently, one Tomlinson not good enough and Khan who goes missing.

Kellan Gordon, what's his position? Came on and scored against us up front for Lincoln, they got in all second half easily down that side.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby victor A block » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:10 am

Pretty clear there has to be a change in goal for Saaturday . All trust has gone , and I'm not talking about the fans , but the defence. Will Dempster actually be brave enough to do it though ? I doubt it .
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby Jamie » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:12 am

It's ok blaming midfield last night but what other options did he have. Bish, Mellis and DD all unavailable. Very harsh on Khan, be worked his arse off last night and was arguably our best player. He certain our most creative player.

Having seen the goals, Conrad was clearly to blame for the 2nd.

Its got to be time now to try Stone. The point has to be made to Conrad that these mistakes dont go unpunished.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby cassellswasmagic » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:01 am

It’s actually laughable how pathetic we are.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby NorthLondonStag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:29 am

There’s a good point made above. I thought Gordon was excellent going forward but seemed to me that most of their threat along the ground was coming down the left hand side. The two goals were scored with Angol getting an easy run down the left and the centre backs playing catch up. I wonder if Gordon was playing too far forward or is too attacking to play wing back.

When we signed him the BBC described him as a winger.

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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby NorthLondonStag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:29 am

There’s a good point made above. I thought Gordon was excellent going forward but seemed to me that most of their threat along the ground was coming down the left hand side. The two goals were scored with Angol getting an easy run down the left and the centre backs playing catch up. I wonder if Gordon was playing too far forward or is too attacking to play wing back.

When we signed him the BBC report described him as a winger.
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Re: Conrad Logan

Postby Conker » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:25 am

So is anybody still against the idea of dropping Logan? The people who defended him strongly last week haven’t turned up after last night?

Genuinely interested if any stags fans are left that don’t think Stone is at least worth a shot?
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