bellwhiff wrote:Stoney wrote:Bloke in front of me didn't celebrate our first goal either.
'we have been pathetic, I'm not clapping that'
Who needs enemies?
You are kidding me
Bol8ngey Stag wrote:On the highlights you can clearly hear Logan shout
Chief get there!!
Why people are blaming Logan for today is beyond me they had so much time and space in the first half it just wasn’t good for enough
Bol8ngey Stag wrote:On the highlights you can clearly hear Logan shout
Chief get there!!
Why people are blaming Logan for today is beyond me they had so much time and space in the first half it just wasn’t good for enough
Random Hero wrote:This is peak Stagsnet to be honest. We aren’t allowed to criticise a single player now without someone saying he is ‘giving his all’.
Lads I’d give my left testicle to play for the Stags and help us win, but that’s means nothing. Conrad Logan is a complete and utter liability. I wish this was a nice game, but it isn’t, and he’s will cost us points once again this season... he has to be replaced.
Bol8ngey Stag wrote:On the highlights you can clearly hear Logan shout
Chief get there!!
Why people are blaming Logan for today is beyond me they had so much time and space in the first half it just wasn’t good for enough
cassellswasmagic wrote:Pearce couldn’t do a thing. It was Conrad’s ball once he made a move forward. He hesitated and...goal.
Rob wrote:cassellswasmagic wrote:Pearce couldn’t do a thing. It was Conrad’s ball once he made a move forward. He hesitated and...goal.
Now that's hilarious. Pearce is a great player but was garbage 1st half and was quite clearly and obviously out of position for the 2nd goal. But to quote a song, haters gotta hate
cassellswasmagic wrote:Rob wrote:cassellswasmagic wrote:Pearce couldn’t do a thing. It was Conrad’s ball once he made a move forward. He hesitated and...goal.
Now that's hilarious. Pearce is a great player but was garbage 1st half and was quite clearly and obviously out of position for the 2nd goal. But to quote a song, haters gotta hate
Rob. Not saying Pearce has no responsibility at all but when the ball comes across Logan has to a) Take the ball and everything else or b) stay back nearer his line. I don’t hate him either just merely pointing out his mistake. Earlier he made a brilliant fingertip save, so must give him credit for that. Unfortunately goalkeepers can’t keep making the big errors. Ask Karius.
stagsfan6493 wrote:The second goal was Logan’s fault, either come out committed or stay in goal - it’s something you teach to children.
It didn’t warrant the abuse he got though. Especially as half of the stadium decided to clap the disgraceful Preston who not only had a shocker but the threw away any chance of victory.
pemill wrote:Stag95 wrote:The sooner Bobby is back the better.
Don't kid yourself it would have made any difference yesterday or at Newport, the defence have got to defend.
gazza1988 wrote:Conrad was first choice 2 years ago. He was replaced with Olejnik last season, who became number one. Nobody is denying that Olejnik is the better keeper. What are people seriously expecting from a backup goalkeeper in league 2?
Can someone clear something up for me? Conrad should command his back line. He also shouldn't argue with his captain in said back line. Which is it? Has anyone stopped to think that this is why we are shipping goals? Look at their first goal. Pearce and logan left it for each other. Conrad stopped because Pearce was getting to it and Pearce stopped because Logan was getting to it. If Pearce truly doesn't teuse logan he wouldn't have left it for him, he'd have smacked it into row Z. As for the second goal I can't see how it's Logan's fault as such. Look at the space we gave them on their right hand side, look at the amount of Amber shirts just floating in the middle outside the box conrad was expecting a shot at the near post, as was I, the guy was in acres of space 16/17 yards from goal and in the end they floated an excellent cross to the back post. We were a shambles defensively. Our concentration levels are abysmal. A few times I noticed that we occasionally looked surprised when the ball was near us, almost like "where did that come from?" which is a major concern.
I don't think the fix is to just drop the keeper. If the team really don't rate logan then surely they would do all they can to make sure the ball gets nowhere near him? Or am I missing something?
oldweststander wrote:I think thier second goal had a large chunk of luck attached, yes we were lacking but didn't the ball sit up nicely for the lad?
Sneag wrote:gazza1988 wrote:Conrad was first choice 2 years ago. He was replaced with Olejnik last season, who became number one. Nobody is denying that Olejnik is the better keeper. What are people seriously expecting from a backup goalkeeper in league 2?
Can someone clear something up for me? Conrad should command his back line. He also shouldn't argue with his captain in said back line. Which is it? Has anyone stopped to think that this is why we are shipping goals? Look at their first goal. Pearce and logan left it for each other. Conrad stopped because Pearce was getting to it and Pearce stopped because Logan was getting to it. If Pearce truly doesn't teuse logan he wouldn't have left it for him, he'd have smacked it into row Z. As for the second goal I can't see how it's Logan's fault as such. Look at the space we gave them on their right hand side, look at the amount of Amber shirts just floating in the middle outside the box conrad was expecting a shot at the near post, as was I, the guy was in acres of space 16/17 yards from goal and in the end they floated an excellent cross to the back post. We were a shambles defensively. Our concentration levels are abysmal. A few times I noticed that we occasionally looked surprised when the ball was near us, almost like "where did that come from?" which is a major concern.
I don't think the fix is to just drop the keeper. If the team really don't rate logan then surely they would do all they can to make sure the ball gets nowhere near him? Or am I missing something?
Think you have the goals arse about face.
Commanding the box is all about communication & consistency in decision making. The keeper is facing the whole pitch and needs to be telling the defence what is going on behind them.
The defence need to know is the keeper is going to stick or twist on through balls crosses. I can't speak for the defence, but never know what Logan is going to do. Do you?
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