wardy12345 wrote:How long was this pole open for
georgefostersbeard wrote: and felt that he had been dealt a very tough hand following on from Evans.
gazza1988 wrote:CalderwoodsLeftFoot wrote:So he was given one of the biggest budgets at Swindon and with his own back room Team and players the club have finished ninth . So he moves to a club that alongside Swindon has provided him with a similar budget although I appreciate they aren’t his players . But if he is a great manager he should be able to get the best from most players. He was provided with another quality squad and If I was compiling an end of season report it would be along the lines that he needs to try harder. Both teams have invested heavily and he has been given the best tools for the job and failed on both accounts. I can’t see him taking us up unfortunately. I wouldn’t give him any money to waste!
Swindon was in the play offs though. Swapping manager at that point in the season derailed them as it did us.
If I remember right, when Evans arrived he only won 2 of his 6 or 7 league games before he could sign his own players. I think that also included the heavy 5-2 loss at Carlisle (there was 8 games but one was the trophy which is generally greeted with apathy)
In fact I just checked. He had 7 league games before January window and gained 8 points. You can swing this 2 ways, comparing Flitcroft 1st 7 games and you get 3 points from 7 games, but if you take Flitcroft last 7 games berofe the transfer window it's 9 points out of 7.
See at the end of the day Flitcroft is here to stay. May as well give the bloke a chance and reserve judgement. Don't need constant negativity. There was so many times during Evans reign that I thought the fan base would implode (based on history) at certain dings and it didn't. It allowed him the time. Now it feels we are back in the old day where everything is useless unless repeatedly proven otherwise. The old csrtain players are only as good as their last bad game.
MOTG wrote:In for me. I just wonder if DF survives longer at Mansfield than SE does at Peterborough? Maybe another poll ?
Bradders wrote:georgefostersbeard wrote: and felt that he had been dealt a very tough hand following on from Evans.
How is being given the best form side in the league, on the edge of promotion and free scoring, a "tough hand". Surely that's a golden opportunity for any manager? You simply have to show your skills in motivating the team to keep going in the same vein for a few more matches. The players are proven promotion contenders, so it's success on a plate.
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:So David Flitcroft seems to have a 63% approval rating for continuing next season which I think is similar to Paul Cox after his first seasn in League 2.
I'm all for giving him another chance but I still think it would go down better with the fans if he accepted some responsibility for not making the play offs. He needs to accept he made some mistakes and learn from them. He cannot pretend it was all Steve Evans' fault.
milne6 wrote:I'd say out - had such an easy run of games and couldn't get an home win.. that 1st half against crewe was so bad!
we was very poor against county - he couldn't even motivate his players against local rivals, both fighting for playoffs/automatic promotion
port vale and crawley.. had loads of chances but couldn't score.. and conceded without much pressure on defense
Stanley - down to ten men but was doing them stupid corners with two players?! - was already a men short.. why waste another one
Got wrong team out a few times - 1st half subs against crawley and crewe
I know people saying he needs time for his our players but we had/got one of the biggest squads in L2 so 2 wins in 12 games is not good enough for me
adamstag wrote:Tippy Tappy Football wrote:So David Flitcroft seems to have a 63% approval rating for continuing next season which I think is similar to Paul Cox after his first seasn in League 2.
I'm all for giving him another chance but I still think it would go down better with the fans if he accepted some responsibility for not making the play offs. He needs to accept he made some mistakes and learn from them. He cannot pretend it was all Steve Evans' fault.
If there are fans out there who think it isn't even partially DF's fault (yes we know who it came about, and the players need responsibility etc) i'd query whether they attended any of his games. On the flipside, to suggest it was mostly his fault would also be inaccurate.
MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:To be Devils Advocate Andy, if he'd changed nothing would that have given him adequate opportunity to see which players could stand up to playing his style in a competitive manner next season? It's a tricky line to walk - finding out too late means you're always chasing shadows in terms of acquiring players / evolving to a new style of play
At best we'd have been promoted and the team adapted to his style. At worst he finds out next August that half his squad can't adapt and we spend the season treading water. This way he finds out in time, but it's make the fans patience fuse a lot shorter
CalderwoodsLeftFoot wrote:So he was given one of the biggest budgets at Swindon and with his own back room Team and players the club have finished ninth . So he moves to a club that alongside Swindon has provided him with a similar budget although I appreciate they aren’t his players . But if he is a great manager he should be able to get the best from most players. He was provided with another quality squad and If I was compiling an end of season report it would be along the lines that he needs to try harder. Both teams have invested heavily and he has been given the best tools for the job and failed on both accounts. I can’t see him taking us up unfortunately. I wouldn’t give him any money to waste!
old ram stag wrote:flitcroft officially on missing persons list out for me would we even know?
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