Injuries

[Stag of Devon]

As I said in the original post, wouldn't it be informative to hear what the senior training staff have to say about these comments?
Any views Martin?

[stagsfan6493]

As I said in the original post, wouldn't it be informative to hear what the senior training staff have to say about these comments?
Any views Martin?

What are you exactly expecting them to say?

Clough has referenced the injuries in interviews, you’re not going to get much more than that.

[marksay]

I agree with Hucknalstag if we are realistic about promotion the squad size needs to be nearer 27-30 and don’t loan out players rotate where you can .

[stagmanrob]

Notable mentions have to go to the likes of Quinn, Bowery and Akins.

All of them are over 30, loads of games played over the course of their careers, yet they seem to keep going and not be injured for lengthy periods of time.

Perhaps we have just signed a load of players made out of Weetabix and those named above that aren't made that way have to bear the brunt of it all.

Some players are just built differently to others.

[Walton Stag]

I agree with Hucknalstag if we are realistic about promotion the squad size needs to be nearer 27-30 and don’t loan out players rotate where you can .

I understand we have a maximum amount of players who are aged above 21which we have to run with. What you are suggesting is, in effect, what we are doing because we can use the likes of Abdulla, Carter, Cooper etc any time we like, in effect, making the squad 27-30 as you suggest.

[oldweststander]

When an O21 player is out for the season you can remove him from the roster and replace with another O21 player, we did it in the past with ?, can't remember who it was.

If we want success we cannot depend on youngsters too often.

[Martin Shaw]

As I said in the original post, wouldn't it be informative to hear what the senior training staff have to say about these comments?
Any views Martin?

What are you exactly expecting them to say?

Clough has referenced the injuries in interviews, you’re not going to get much more than that.

The manager is responsible for his strength & conditioning coach and physio. He has spoken at length about the injuries, talked about patterns (or lack of them), and I'm sure when he's talking, he is talking after extensive discussion with them. Would be up to him if he then wanted to put his physio or s&c coach forward for interview.

[gazza1988]

If we do interview the coaching/medical staff what are people expecting?

"we are under strict orders from Nigel to push the players way too hard and make sure each season we only have 10 outfield players available in a kind of physical natural selection. Then we do sensible training with the chosen ones and try to take over league 2."

[Marky Mark]

I agree with Hucknalstag if we are realistic about promotion the squad size needs to be nearer 27-30 and don’t loan out players rotate where you can .

I understand we have a maximum amount of players who are aged above 21which we have to run with. What you are suggesting is, in effect, what we are doing because we can use the likes of Abdulla, Carter, Cooper etc any time we like, in effect, making the squad 27-30 as you suggest.

You're right, we have a technical squad that is equivalent to the size of those that were mentioned:

29 have squad numbers, including long term injuries Hewitt and Kilgour, and Hartigan and Mason (out on loan). You can probably remove Adam Collin from that, making 28

Then Under 21 players Anderson, Wauchope, Krusynski, and Carter who dont have numbers yet but are Under-21. So effectively a squad of 32.

[Martin Shaw]

I greatly appreciate the thread by a potential neighbour of mine, the Mansfield Town Squad which is kept up to date with numbers of yellow cards for team members. I would find it particularly helpful especially at the moment, if it, or something similar, was available to show players out through injuries and expected return dates.

I have added this to my report and will attempt to keep updated after each game, along with goals, assists, and yellow/red cards

https://stagsnet.net/match/reports/view ... tchid=1233

[gazza1988]

Wasn't McLaughlin supposed the me mid-late Sept, not October?

"O'Toole (ankle, return later than early Sept)" so mid-sept?

[mhs]

I've written them both off.
McLaughlin after his never getting quite right and O'Toole after his 3 year contract.

[Sneag]

I've written them both off.
McLaughlin after his never getting quite right and O'Toole after his 3 year contract.

Isn't this 2 seasons running O'Toole has managed to injure himself bytripping over a team mate in training?

[Martin Shaw]

Wasn't McLaughlin supposed the me mid-late Sept, not October?

"O'Toole (ankle, return later than early Sept)" so mid-sept?

Clough said on Tuesday: "Stephen McLaughlin is going to get tested this week, if all goes well, then he'll start outside and it will be probably 6-8 weeks from there."
Hence mid-late Oct.

Clough said on Tuesday: O'Toole return later than Gale (who is early Sept).
Hence "later than early Sept". He did not say "mid-Sept"

[S7AGS]

I have to say some players injuries are suspect to me. JJ was excellent before his new contract and
As far as I remember bullet proof, literally to the day since he signed he’s made if glass! I’m sure it’s all genuine but starting to look very suspicious, long term injuries happening in training should be very rare….
When your not in the blood and thunder of a proper game players shouldn’t be anywhere near bad injuries in training

[broomo]

I have to say some players injuries are suspect to me. JJ was excellent before his new contract and
As far as I remember bullet proof, literally to the day since he signed he’s made if glass! I’m sure it’s all genuine but starting to look very suspicious, long term injuries happening in training should be very rare….
When your not in the blood and thunder of a proper game players shouldn’t be anywhere near bad injuries in training

Goodness me.

[ST4GS]

Can this thread be made a sticky ?
Might put the mockers on future injuries as nothing else is working.

[bobbystagsfan]

I have to say some players injuries are suspect to me. JJ was excellent before his new contract and
As far as I remember bullet proof, literally to the day since he signed he’s made if glass! I’m sure it’s all genuine but starting to look very suspicious, long term injuries happening in training should be very rare….
When your not in the blood and thunder of a proper game players shouldn’t be anywhere near bad injuries in training

Did you not see how kilgour got injured against Doncaster? Are you suggesting that because he didn't get injured in the 'blood and thunder of a proper game' that there's something suspicious about it?

Have a word mate

[gazza1988]

Wasn't McLaughlin supposed the me mid-late Sept, not October?

"O'Toole (ankle, return later than early Sept)" so mid-sept?

Clough said on Tuesday: "Stephen McLaughlin is going to get tested this week, if all goes well, then he'll start outside and it will be probably 6-8 weeks from there."
Hence mid-late Oct.

Clough said on Tuesday: O'Toole return later than Gale (who is early Sept).
Hence "later than early Sept". He did not say "mid-Sept"

I see.

Didn't catch the press conference, so last I heard at the time as mid-late September which was quoted last season or in preseason.

I didn't say he said mid-sept. To me if something is later than early Sept then it's mid sept. There's no context on O'Toole's injury summary.

"O'Toole (ankle, return later than James Gale who is due back 5th Sept)"

[Dan]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... onths.html