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Re: League Two play offs

Postby The One » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:41 am

Sedgwick wrote:They'll come straight back down on record low points you watch


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Re: League Two play offs

Postby lifestags » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:47 am

Northampton were very fortunate having lost 5 out of their last 7 before lockdown. Having watched them against us there is no doubt in my mind that they would of fell out of the play offs.

Fair play to Curle though, you could tell it meant a lot to him to get his first promotion.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby MTFCMusings » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:31 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Unless a player is pure poison then it's always poor man management (and a massive waste of the club's money) if a manager has to bomb a player out of a club. Paul Anderson did not come across to me as a wrong 'un and his crime was said to be suggesting to Flitcroft that he stick with Evans/Raynor's tactics in the last 12 games of the season in 2017-2018. He was right! :lol: Flitcroft made a terrible mess of those last 12 games and not only blew automatic promotion but the play offs as well.

If Flitcroft had kept Anderson in the squad in 2018-2019 then he might have done a better job than Jorge Grant or not had to play Alex MacDonald as a right wing back at Franchise FC. Who knows? Your squad players do become very important towards the end of the season and do give the manager a few more options. It's a good man management skill to try and keep players on board even though they may not be in the first team just in case you need them.

Lots of other football managers are guilty of bombing players out including Paul Cox and Keith Curle.


Sorry, was Anderson a coach or a player? He should’ve kept his nose out and focussed on his contribution on the pitch instead.

Jorge Grant did more in those four/five goos games he had than Anderson did in 25.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby Bros » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:40 am

Kernow wrote:I prefer the away day to Exeter, rather than the cold wecolme at Northampton.

I agree. We normally have a good weekend in Exeter wheres Northampton is a soulless new stadium with poor parking this year. Anyway they'll be straight back down
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:59 am

Jorge Grant was another waste of money. We did not need him and DF had to play Jacob Mellis deeper to accomodate him. He went missing in action when the going got tough.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:06 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Congratulations to Nicky Adams as well. I think that's 6 promotions in total and 4 promotions in 6 seasons from League 2.


Nicky Adams is one of the best crossers in the lower leagues, if not the best. Was interesting to see the stat that he has more assists this season than any other player other than Kevin de Bruyne.


Most assists: TOP FOUR TIERS 2019/20 (13th June)

17 - Kevin De Bruyne
15 - Randell Williams
14 - Charlie Kirk
14 - Liam Feeney
12 - Nicky Adams
12 - Scott Fraser
12 - Trent Alexander-Arnold
12 - Matheus Pereira
12 - Niclas Eliasson
11 - George Cooper


Most chances created: TOP FOUR TIER 2019/20

54 - Kevin De Bruyne
48 - Randell Williams
48 - Matheus Pereira
47 - Jordan Clark
47 - Trent Alexander-Arnold
45 - Jack Harrison
44 - Nicky Adams
43 - Mohamed Salah
41 - Barry Bannan
41 - Jarrod Bowen

Randell Williams will probably have League 1 clubs after him although he did not play well yesterday and annoyed me by hanging on to the ball and not crossing it.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby arsene wengers coat » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:31 pm

BBC conveniently getting it's facts wrong...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53229906

"The closest he (curle) had come (to promotion as a manager) was three years ago when Exeter knocked out Carlisle with a late winner in their League Two play-off semi-final second leg."

Hmmm... That penalty shootout in the final in 04 didn't happen then?
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby Martin Shaw » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:33 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
Martin Shaw wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Congratulations to Nicky Adams as well. I think that's 6 promotions in total and 4 promotions in 6 seasons from League 2.


Nicky Adams is one of the best crossers in the lower leagues, if not the best. Was interesting to see the stat that he has more assists this season than any other player other than Kevin de Bruyne.


Most assists: TOP FOUR TIERS 2019/20 (13th June)

17 - Kevin De Bruyne
15 - Randell Williams
14 - Charlie Kirk
14 - Liam Feeney
12 - Nicky Adams
12 - Scott Fraser
12 - Trent Alexander-Arnold
12 - Matheus Pereira
12 - Niclas Eliasson
11 - George Cooper


Most chances created: TOP FOUR TIER 2019/20

54 - Kevin De Bruyne
48 - Randell Williams
48 - Matheus Pereira
47 - Jordan Clark
47 - Trent Alexander-Arnold
45 - Jack Harrison
44 - Nicky Adams
43 - Mohamed Salah
41 - Barry Bannan
41 - Jarrod Bowen

Randell Williams will probably have League 1 clubs after him although he did not play well yesterday and annoyed me by hanging on to the ball and not crossing it.

I'm sure they put the Adams stat up on the screen during the Sky coverage. As we know, different groups record these things differently.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby Dave Wayne » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:49 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:BBC conveniently getting it's facts wrong...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53229906

"The closest he (curle) had come (to promotion as a manager) was three years ago when Exeter knocked out Carlisle with a late winner in their League Two play-off semi-final second leg."

Hmmm... That penalty shootout in the final in 04 didn't happen then?

You are misreading it slightly. The sentence before that says he had never taken a team to a Wembley play off final.
Technically they are correct, but only because Wembley was closed in 2004 !!
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby The One » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:17 pm

Premier League given national league 200k to finance play offs
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby arsene wengers coat » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:47 pm

Flipping Wycombe! Crikey.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby bobbystagsfan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:50 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:Flipping Wycombe! Crikey.



They've done well, from nearly getting relegated to league one play offs and to keep the same manager in place too. they don't have a massive budget either
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby Sedgwick » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:43 pm

We kept them up didn't we? Last game of the season.

Ainsworth has done well and shown what sticking with the right manager does. Only seen Wycombe play once but I imagine a GC side will be similar.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby adamstag » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:46 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Flipping Wycombe! Crikey.



They've done well, from nearly getting relegated to league one play offs and to keep the same manager in place too. they don't have a massive budget either


I suppose it must be great to be late to the party of the playoffs and win like that rather than be ridiculously clear of them and someone achieve the impossible and fall into them and then lose.

Some see being in them as a bonus and others don’t.

Ah if only football was so simple.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby The One » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:29 pm

Wycombe now in Championship
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby wayno cordiniho » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:30 pm

First mid table team to be promoted in history
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby cassellswasmagic » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:33 pm

Fairytale stuff. Great story.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby MTFCMusings » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:45 pm

Two big ugly teams who capitalise on set pieces winning both play-offs so far.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby bobbystagsfan » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:53 pm

And who says direct football can't be successful? :lol:

Congratulations to both Wycombe and Northampton, don't think many would've put money on those two being promoted but fair play. Both very effective at what they do
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby cassellswasmagic » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm

wayno cordiniho wrote:First mid table team to be promoted in history

Tbf. Tiny budget. Defence and keeper all free transfers. Kept a manager for a decent amount of time. Favourites for relegation. Great team ethic. Stags saved em. Championship team! They deserve it.
Sunderland have a massive budget and were nowhere near them.
Shows what a decent manager whose given time and great team spirit achieves.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby Spiritater » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:01 pm

hope wycombe fans enjoy their one season in t'championship
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby bobbystagsfan » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:03 pm

Spiritater wrote:hope wycombe fans enjoy their one season in t'championship



With the spirit and drive they have I wouldn't write them off just yet, won't have a huge transfer budget at all but they've managed to get there in the first place. It'll be tough for them, but I wish that was us going up to the championship
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby cassellswasmagic » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:05 pm

Spiritater wrote:hope wycombe fans enjoy their one season in t'championship

You never know. Many thought Bournemouth wouldn’t last in the premier league but have for a few seasons. I wish we had one more season in the championship. We’d probably do an Oxford and mess it up!!!
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby ST4GS » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:37 pm

Spiritater wrote:hope wycombe fans enjoy their one season in t'championship
Why one season. I can't imagine they will go up again so fast.
Might take them a few years like Bournemouth but if you are that confident of them going up again I would put a bet on.
You will get good odds.
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Re: League Two play offs

Postby oldweststander » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:55 am

ST4GS wrote:
Spiritater wrote:hope wycombe fans enjoy their one season in t'championship
Why one season. I can't imagine they will go up again so fast.
Might take them a few years like Bournemouth but if you are that confident of them going up again I would put a bet on.
You will get good odds.




One season, maybe, but good luck to them.

Do you actually believe we would fair any better?

I was around when we went up to the then Div 2, we were a good team, had some good results but just could not compete financially, same would apply now.

Our ambition should be to have that "one season of glory" .
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