Rob wrote: Points per game seems to be the fairest way so any league would have been able to finish using that very simple formula.
Amber Andy wrote:It gives the impression they don't care.cassellswasmagic wrote:Why should the club comment, fair play to clubs that do, but again you don’t need to. The votes been cast. What’s the problem? Oh yes, folk making a drama out of us not commenting on something again. Does everyone say which party they vote for in an election? No!
It is a major issue for a lot of clubs.
Had itbeen last season I'm sure we would be saying a lot.
It wouldn't have taken much to have made even a short statement. The vast majority of clubs have.
I'm all for sticking up for our club. However, I think no response is a poor response.
cassellswasmagic wrote:Amber Andy wrote:It gives the impression they don't care.cassellswasmagic wrote:Why should the club comment, fair play to clubs that do, but again you don’t need to. The votes been cast. What’s the problem? Oh yes, folk making a drama out of us not commenting on something again. Does everyone say which party they vote for in an election? No!
It is a major issue for a lot of clubs.
Had itbeen last season I'm sure we would be saying a lot.
It wouldn't have taken much to have made even a short statement. The vast majority of clubs have.
I'm all for sticking up for our club. However, I think no response is a poor response.
Andy, I disagree it comes across as not caring. They’re damned either way. There could be good reason for keeping their council. I don’t think anyone can accuse Radford of not caring though and I’m sure he’s said something since the vote.
adamstag wrote:Loving the insight from Mansfield on the matter
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Rob wrote: Points per game seems to be the fairest way so any league would have been able to finish using that very simple formula.
I agree with Rob. Points per game is the fairest way to do it. We also need to scrap the play offs this season. Just promote the next highest team in the league.
It will be tough on some teams but raspberries happens. Tranmere are complaining about potentially being relegated but if the same thing had happened last year then the Stags may have been promoted in 4th place or Tranmere could have been knocked out of the play offs by Col U or Carlisle United.
The teams who are relegated or who have missed out on promotion just need to take it on the chin for the greater good of the game.
Bros wrote:adamstag wrote:Loving the insight from Mansfield on the matter
The survey was done by the BBC and some researcher would have rung round each club at the ground. With our new DoF only just arrived and our CEO topping her tan up in Portugal there would be no one authorised to give a response
Big yella wrote:cassellswasmagic wrote:Amber Andy wrote:It gives the impression they don't care.cassellswasmagic wrote:Why should the club comment, fair play to clubs that do, but again you don’t need to. The votes been cast. What’s the problem? Oh yes, folk making a drama out of us not commenting on something again. Does everyone say which party they vote for in an election? No!
It is a major issue for a lot of clubs.
Had itbeen last season I'm sure we would be saying a lot.
It wouldn't have taken much to have made even a short statement. The vast majority of clubs have.
I'm all for sticking up for our club. However, I think no response is a poor response.
Andy, I disagree it comes across as not caring. They’re damned either way. There could be good reason for keeping their council. I don’t think anyone can accuse Radford of not caring though and I’m sure he’s said something since the vote.
Perhaps if he has been Chairing the meetings of the League 2 chairmen he has decided to hold his views from puplic airing as he does not want to be seen as having a pre set bias.
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:Unfortunately though you can't look at a part of a season and say that is reflective of where a club will finish up. There was almost a quarter of the season left when the plug was pulled and in relative terms that is a massive chunk.
You also have to look at fixture lists and see who individual clubs have to play and have played. The number of home and away matches are also relevant. If you look at County for example they are three points clear of the fourth placed team who have played a game less. Goal difference is six in County's advantage so on the face of it County have a better chance of going up but they have also played 20 out of 38 games at home. The fourth placed team have only played 18 at home and 19 away so those facts totally put the boot on the other foot.
Although this is relevant to clubs in promotion/play off positions, imagine how you would feel if we were relegated under the same system. It is simply unfair to relegate clubs without allowing them to complete their fixtures under normal circumstances as that relegation could actually condemn them to liquidation.
I do agree though that if there is to be no relegation there should be no promotion either. The simplest and fairest outcome must be to start again next season as though it were the start of 2019/20 with all teams in their current leagues, neither advantaged nor disadvantaged. And please don't say that is unfair on such as Leeds etc as they haven't actually won anything yet and there is no guarantee they would have done as we found out last year.
arsene wengers coat wrote:I wish the premier League would do away with Bournemouth.
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:From Grimsby Telegraph
Ian Holloway on relegation from League Two
"There are rules in place that should be adhered to. If they are changed because of these circumstances, I don’t agree with it. If they want to have promotion and relegation they should still do it. Whether it’s Stevenage – or Macclesfield because they cannot pay their wages – somebody should go down whatever happens. I know we lost Bury (from League One) but somebody else needs to go down if they are going to promote somebody into our league. The rules of the competition are the rules of the competition."
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/spor ... fl-4152102
James wrote:I can only imagine Ian Holloway’s reaction had Grimsby been 24th.....
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Hull City confirm they are the Championship club with two individuals who’ve tested positive for COVID-19.
Rob wrote:Did Cummings pop in there on his way to Durham?
wardy12345 wrote:Just seen this on the bbc “ League One strugglers Tranmere highlighted an alternative plan last month which they say is based on "statistical analysis of points per game going back three years”
Any idea what this idea would mean for the stags
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