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Re: Mellis in court

Postby tibby » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:42 pm

Who cares? Mellis is the most over rated player we have ever had
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Spiritater » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:40 am

tibby wrote:Who cares? Mellis is the most over rated player we have ever had

On his day he's amongst the best. The word 'consistency' isn't in his vocabulary though. His skill is wasted with his poor mental attitude . Some players you just can't help and get dragged down by their inner demons. Players like Chapman, Caldwell, Muzza etc could've graced far higher stages but failed.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:56 am

arsene wengers coat wrote:
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arsene wengers coat wrote:Definate time for this Donohue fella.


Are you a qualified criminal lawyer AWC?


I wouldn’t think so with that spelling.


Sorry Dad. I must spell definitely correctly to be a qualified criminal lawyer or get into the Army. :?


It plays to your credibility.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby arsene wengers coat » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:10 am

Noted.

But what you reckon? Donohue will get time, Mellis won't?
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:29 am

arsene wengers coat wrote:Noted.

But what you reckon? Donohue will get time, Mellis won't?


I think it’s very hard to speculate. Other than what’s in the press we don’t know the specifics of the case, his previous (if any) and mitigation.

Aside from that I personally don’t think it’s right (for me, others can do so of course) to speculate on the sentencing when there is a victim and people’s futures at stake. Just let the process run it’s course, that’s what it’s there for.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:16 am

arsene wengers coat wrote:Noted.

But what you reckon? Donohue will get time, Mellis won't?


I’m not sure of the actual evidence but I would suspect it’ll be a suspended sentence
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Sneag » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:40 am

bellwhiff wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Noted.

But what you reckon? Donohue will get time, Mellis won't?


I’m not sure of the actual evidence but I would suspect it’ll be a suspended sentence


It'll depend on what bad character gets introduced, at what point they enter a guilty plea (if they do), how long the trial takes & how long they persist with a provable lie and what mood the judge is in when it comes to sentencing. They do seem to like to make examples of footballers.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:05 am

Sneag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Noted.

But what you reckon? Donohue will get time, Mellis won't?


I’m not sure of the actual evidence but I would suspect it’ll be a suspended sentence


It'll depend on what bad character gets introduced, at what point they enter a guilty plea (if they do), how long the trial takes & how long they persist with a provable lie and what mood the judge is in when it comes to sentencing. They do seem to like to make examples of footballers.


You can’t introduce bad character for sentencing, only previous convictions.

The length of the trial is not relevant.

I agree the judge’s mood may be highly relevant although they still have to apply the sentencing guidelines.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Hjeldefan » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:24 am

tibby wrote:Who cares? Mellis is the most over rated player we have ever had

This. He makes a 10 yard pass and half our fan base think he is Paul Scholes.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Sneag » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:33 am

NorthLondonStag wrote:
Sneag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Noted.

But what you reckon? Donohue will get time, Mellis won't?


I’m not sure of the actual evidence but I would suspect it’ll be a suspended sentence


It'll depend on what bad character gets introduced, at what point they enter a guilty plea (if they do), how long the trial takes & how long they persist with a provable lie and what mood the judge is in when it comes to sentencing. They do seem to like to make examples of footballers.


You can’t introduce bad character for sentencing, only previous convictions.

The length of the trial is not relevant.

I agree the judge’s mood may be highly relevant although they still have to apply the sentencing guidelines.


Previous convictions point to bad character shirley.

The length of the trial can have a direct impact on the judge's mood.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Jimstag » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am

Hjeldefan wrote:
tibby wrote:Who cares? Mellis is the most over rated player we have ever had

This. He makes a 10 yard pass and half our fan base think he is Paul Scholes.


The bigger issues is compared to the others he is!

Does anyone know when the outcome will be known?
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:40 am

Sneag wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:
Sneag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Noted.

But what you reckon? Donohue will get time, Mellis won't?


I’m not sure of the actual evidence but I would suspect it’ll be a suspended sentence


It'll depend on what bad character gets introduced, at what point they enter a guilty plea (if they do), how long the trial takes & how long they persist with a provable lie and what mood the judge is in when it comes to sentencing. They do seem to like to make examples of footballers.


You can’t introduce bad character for sentencing, only previous convictions.

The length of the trial is not relevant.

I agree the judge’s mood may be highly relevant although they still have to apply the sentencing guidelines.


Previous convictions point to bad character shirley.

The length of the trial can have a direct impact on the judge's mood.


Introducing bad character in criminal trials is a different thing and has a quite specific meaning. Basically it’s introduced to prove guilt, usually in response to a ‘good character’ defence. You can usually only introduce bad character of the defence advances ‘good character’. Although it’s not as simple as that.

It’s different from previous convictions, which goes to sentencing.

I realise people may not be that interested in this so I will shut up now.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby I am Spartacus » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:29 pm

Mellis I have always been led to believe, whether I have been correctly told the facts, was not the main aggressor and that what he did was of a lesser offence in nature.

However, if the CPS are taking this all the way to trial at Crown Court where Jacob is pleading not guilty can only mean one of two things (IMO - before they usual suspects appear; firstly he is innocent of the GBH charge and he wants to prove his innocence in a court of law or he is going down the ‘Adam Johnson defence route’ whereby he pleads innocence till the last minute thereby ensuring he still has his livelihood till the last minute.

Either way, this court case, guilty or not guilty, like our season is dragging on for far too long without any likelihood of a satisfactory conclusion.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Big yella » Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:40 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:
Sneag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Noted.

But what you reckon? Donohue will get time, Mellis won't?


I’m not sure of the actual evidence but I would suspect it’ll be a suspended sentence


It'll depend on what bad character gets introduced, at what point they enter a guilty plea (if they do), how long the trial takes & how long they persist with a provable lie and what mood the judge is in when it comes to sentencing. They do seem to like to make examples of footballers.


You can’t introduce bad character for sentencing, only previous convictions.

The length of the trial is not relevant.

I agree the judge’s mood may be highly relevant although they still have to apply the sentencing guidelines.

"In January 2012, Donohue pleaded guilty at Caernarfon Magistrates Court to a charge of assaulting a woman at a nightclub in Bangor, Gwynedd, the previous 13 November. He was fined £500 and £85 court fees, and sentenced to 120 hours of community service and four weeks of curfew."

I would say that that is all that needs to be said to confirm his bad character.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:04 pm

Big yella wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:
Sneag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Noted.

But what you reckon? Donohue will get time, Mellis won't?


I’m not sure of the actual evidence but I would suspect it’ll be a suspended sentence


It'll depend on what bad character gets introduced, at what point they enter a guilty plea (if they do), how long the trial takes & how long they persist with a provable lie and what mood the judge is in when it comes to sentencing. They do seem to like to make examples of footballers.


You can’t introduce bad character for sentencing, only previous convictions.

The length of the trial is not relevant.

I agree the judge’s mood may be highly relevant although they still have to apply the sentencing guidelines.

"In January 2012, Donohue pleaded guilty at Caernarfon Magistrates Court to a charge of assaulting a woman at a nightclub in Bangor, Gwynedd, the previous 13 November. He was fined £500 and £85 court fees, and sentenced to 120 hours of community service and four weeks of curfew."

I would say that that is all that needs to be said to confirm his bad character.

Previous convictions only introduced in sentencing.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Big yella » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:06 pm

That's the stage he is at belly, he's pleaded guilty.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:21 pm

Big yella wrote:That's the stage he is at belly, he's pleaded guilty.


Roger that.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Johnny H » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:23 am

Sentencing today at Nottingham CC for Mellis and Donohoe I believe.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby stag324 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:10 pm

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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Bradders » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:27 pm

Ban him from all pubs and bars for three weeks. Force him to stay at home, except for essential journeys or for work. After that, no pubs or nightclubs for the rest of the year unless he signs in, and he can't stay out later than 10. Make it so that he's not to meet his mates either.
That should be enough punishment.
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Rob » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:28 pm

Bradders wrote:Ban him from all pubs and bars for three weeks. Force him to stay at home, except for essential journeys or for work. After that, no pubs or nightclubs for the rest of the year unless he signs in, and he can't stay out later than 10. Make it so that he's not to meet his mates either.
That should be enough punishment.


That sounds familiar :lol:
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby mousemousemouse » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:14 pm

stag324 wrote:nothing down on the website

https://www.thelawpages.com/court-heari ... -Court.php


It looks like it's there now, case number T20190968
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Re: Mellis in court

Postby gazza1988 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:08 pm

It's closed now. Jacab Mellis? Have they spelt his name wrong?
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Re: Mellis in court

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Re: Mellis in court

Postby Kernow » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:51 pm

That story is from last year.
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