Sedgwick wrote:Keith hill would kick this lot up the backside and get them organised
He’s going Bolton
Sedgwick wrote:Keith hill would kick this lot up the backside and get them organised
Sedgwick wrote:stag861 wrote:Pre season we seemed to have a plan A & a plan B, one more than DF. Unfortunately neither seems to work as the defence seems confused.
Don't forget Flitcroft had Diamond, Anderson, Butcher, Atkinson and other players he didn't want taking up his budget and still nearly got us there. I respect JR's decision but imagine this squad plus those extra players DF would of wanted.
Lincoln missed out the other year and stuck with their manager, added what they needed and went up were doing a county at the minute.
Amber Andy wrote:Sedgwick wrote:stag861 wrote:Pre season we seemed to have a plan A & a plan B, one more than DF. Unfortunately neither seems to work as the defence seems confused.
Don't forget Flitcroft had Diamond, Anderson, Butcher, Atkinson and other players he didn't want taking up his budget and still nearly got us there. I respect JR's decision but imagine this squad plus those extra players DF would of wanted.
Lincoln missed out the other year and stuck with their manager, added what they needed and went up were doing a county at the minute.
I totally agree. Added to that, Lincoln are currently light years ahead of us.
stagsfan6493 wrote:Sedgwick wrote:Keith hill would kick this lot up the backside and get them organised
He’s going Bolton
Sedgwick wrote:stagsfan6493 wrote:Sedgwick wrote:Keith hill would kick this lot up the backside and get them organised
He’s going Bolton
Oh not heard about that, he'll do well there over time
stagsfan6493 wrote:Sedgwick wrote:stagsfan6493 wrote:Sedgwick wrote:Keith hill would kick this lot up the backside and get them organised
He’s going Bolton
Oh not heard about that, he'll do well there over time
I just saw Alan Nixon tweet about it, he’s usually reliable.
thefamilyvontrapp wrote:It’s a really tough one this... I think we all knew that JD has/had a very slim chance of success in his appointment.. the problem with lower league football is that none of the players will ever play for the love of Mansfield Town.. they are only interested in what (little) money they can get...
Once a relatively new manager comes in with no big credentials from their career, the players soon lose interest with what the new manager has to say because they don’t see any proof of reliability of what he says..!!
The players will just do what they think is enough in training and the games played to (just) get their selves on the first 11 sheet...
I think now it is just a matter of time before the powers that be decide to pull the plug!!
Chrisuknottm wrote:thefamilyvontrapp wrote:It’s a really tough one this... I think we all knew that JD has/had a very slim chance of success in his appointment.. the problem with lower league football is that none of the players will ever play for the love of Mansfield Town.. they are only interested in what (little) money they can get...
Once a relatively new manager comes in with no big credentials from their career, the players soon lose interest with what the new manager has to say because they don’t see any proof of reliability of what he says..!!
The players will just do what they think is enough in training and the games played to (just) get their selves on the first 11 sheet...
I think now it is just a matter of time before the powers that be decide to pull the plug!!
I said this week's ago regarding the lack of credentials to take seasoned pros forward with him and got told rubbish......thank God there's at least two of us Von Trapp
Chrisuknottm wrote:thefamilyvontrapp wrote:It’s a really tough one this... I think we all knew that JD has/had a very slim chance of success in his appointment.. the problem with lower league football is that none of the players will ever play for the love of Mansfield Town.. they are only interested in what (little) money they can get...
Once a relatively new manager comes in with no big credentials from their career, the players soon lose interest with what the new manager has to say because they don’t see any proof of reliability of what he says..!!
The players will just do what they think is enough in training and the games played to (just) get their selves on the first 11 sheet...
I think now it is just a matter of time before the powers that be decide to pull the plug!!
I said this week's ago regarding the lack of credentials to take seasoned pros forward with him and got told rubbish......thank God there's at least two of us Von Trapp
thefamilyvontrapp wrote:It’s a really tough one this... I think we all knew that JD has/had a very slim chance of success in his appointment.. the problem with lower league football is that none of the players will ever play for the love of Mansfield Town.. they are only interested in what (little) money they can get...
Once a relatively new manager comes in with no big credentials from their career, the players soon lose interest with what the new manager has to say because they don’t see any proof of reliability of what he says..!!
The players will just do what they think is enough in training and the games played to (just) get their selves on the first 11 sheet...
I think now it is just a matter of time before the powers that be decide to pull the plug!!
thefamilyvontrapp wrote:It’s a really tough one this... I think we all knew that JD has/had a very slim chance of success in his appointment.. the problem with lower league football is that none of the players will ever play for the love of Mansfield Town.. they are only interested in what (little) money they can get...
Once a relatively new manager comes in with no big credentials from their career, the players soon lose interest with what the new manager has to say because they don’t see any proof of reliability of what he says..!!
The players will just do what they think is enough in training and the games played to (just) get their selves on the first 11 sheet...
I think now it is just a matter of time before the powers that be decide to pull the plug!!
EdwinstoweStag wrote:As I said in a previous thread, if we fail to get promoted this season, we will part company with most of the squad and God knows how long it will take us to get back to the level of expectation we’ve had for the last three seasons.
arsene wengers coat wrote:thefamilyvontrapp wrote:It’s a really tough one this... I think we all knew that JD has/had a very slim chance of success in his appointment.. the problem with lower league football is that none of the players will ever play for the love of Mansfield Town.. they are only interested in what (little) money they can get...
Once a relatively new manager comes in with no big credentials from their career, the players soon lose interest with what the new manager has to say because they don’t see any proof of reliability of what he says..!!
The players will just do what they think is enough in training and the games played to (just) get their selves on the first 11 sheet...
I think now it is just a matter of time before the powers that be decide to pull the plug!!
We're under pressure as a club, but the real pressure is on JR. It's his money and investment on the line. We're in real danger of a relegation battle with Dempster in charge. The next appointment needs to be meticulous and precise. We need an experienced drill sergeant.
cassellswasmagic wrote:EdwinstoweStag wrote:As I said in a previous thread, if we fail to get promoted this season, we will part company with most of the squad and God knows how long it will take us to get back to the level of expectation we’ve had for the last three seasons.
I’m starting to wonder if it would hurt losing half this squad. They’ve failed on numerous occasions. I don’t know if it’s the players, managers or both. On paper we have a talented squad, but in reality it’s very rarely worth the entrance fee. The midfield is dire!!!
Rob wrote:cassellswasmagic wrote:EdwinstoweStag wrote:As I said in a previous thread, if we fail to get promoted this season, we will part company with most of the squad and God knows how long it will take us to get back to the level of expectation we’ve had for the last three seasons.
I’m starting to wonder if it would hurt losing half this squad. They’ve failed on numerous occasions. I don’t know if it’s the players, managers or both. On paper we have a talented squad, but in reality it’s very rarely worth the entrance fee. The midfield is dire!!!
As I have said before, in fact many times, last season was our highest league position since 2004. It was a very, very poor decision to remove the manager which contrary to the denials of the Flitcroft Out brigade was due, in part, to the pressure put on the owners on social media. For the upteenth time I will repeat that we will get nowhere by changing a manager every 12 months, but changing every 3 months, that will get us somewhere, no doubt about it, we will end up like County, large wage budget and in the Conference.
So the dilemma is, do we listen to the nutjobs who want a manager sacked after every defeat and want him knighted after every win, or do we remain level headed. I think JR is the best thing that has ever happened to our club, but I think whoever is advising him on football matters needs the bullet.
As for JD, I predicted in the summer we'd be mid table, you change a manager, you have to accept it takes time for him and his players to gel - only someone who knows the square root of cockall about football would think that changing a manager brings instant success - particularly at our level. So JR should absolutely not listen to the FB/Twatter/Instagram morons, but should seek advice from someone like Dearden who knows football. For now, time will tell if JD is the man or not, but to even think 6 games is enough to make that sort of decision is just mental. The DF Out brigade are now the JD Out brigade, once they get their wish they will soon be "insert new manager initials here" out brigade - it must be sad being them.
Rob wrote:cassellswasmagic wrote:EdwinstoweStag wrote:As I said in a previous thread, if we fail to get promoted this season, we will part company with most of the squad and God knows how long it will take us to get back to the level of expectation we’ve had for the last three seasons.
I’m starting to wonder if it would hurt losing half this squad. They’ve failed on numerous occasions. I don’t know if it’s the players, managers or both. On paper we have a talented squad, but in reality it’s very rarely worth the entrance fee. The midfield is dire!!!
As I have said before, in fact many times, last season was our highest league position since 2004. It was a very, very poor decision to remove the manager which contrary to the denials of the Flitcroft Out brigade was due, in part, to the pressure put on the owners on social media. For the upteenth time I will repeat that we will get nowhere by changing a manager every 12 months, but changing every 3 months, that will get us somewhere, no doubt about it, we will end up like County, large wage budget and in the Conference.
So the dilemma is, do we listen to the nutjobs who want a manager sacked after every defeat and want him knighted after every win, or do we remain level headed. I think JR is the best thing that has ever happened to our club, but I think whoever is advising him on football matters needs the bullet.
As for JD, I predicted in the summer we'd be mid table, you change a manager, you have to accept it takes time for him and his players to gel - only someone who knows the square root of cockall about football would think that changing a manager brings instant success - particularly at our level. So JR should absolutely not listen to the FB/Twatter/Instagram morons, but should seek advice from someone like Dearden who knows football. For now, time will tell if JD is the man or not, but to even think 6 games is enough to make that sort of decision is just mental. The DF Out brigade are now the JD Out brigade, once they get their wish they will soon be "insert new manager initials here" out brigade - it must be sad being them.
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