oldweststander wrote:After Evans I can imagine the horrible mess the playing side was in but having said that, he had the money and didn't do the job.
My view is he would have had another year, get rid of the remnants of Evans, high wages etc, and try again.
kcassellsfootygenius wrote:Anybody think this went beyond football and is linked in part to his flat refusal to use the RH academy.
Son Of Sherwood wrote:bellwhiff wrote:Son Of Sherwood wrote:bellwhiff wrote:Bradders wrote:I wonder if the letter from the FA apologising for the ref effectively denying his team promotion, arrived before or after Flitcroft getting the sack?
I'm aware that the failure is not all down to the official, but that was almost the last nail in the coffin. I guess he'll have the apology framed, and displayed alongside the other one.
Letter ?
Mr Flicroft said pre match on Sunday that he'd received an apology from the referees association regarding the two decisions they said the ref had got wrong on Thursday.
You could argue that Thursdays ref cost Mr Flitcroft his job, maybe/possibly.
Didn’t know that.
Edit to add
Do you have any evidence of this ? If it’s accurate then I’m amazed there’s not more being made of it.
Just this at 3 minutes 55 seconds in...
kcassellsfootygenius wrote:Anybody think this went beyond football and is linked in part to his flat refusal to use the RH academy.
James wrote:kcassellsfootygenius wrote:Anybody think this went beyond football and is linked in part to his flat refusal to use the RH academy.
And he had a point. The training ground wasn't ready for the first team, and they could only train on the 4G which is a nightmare for injuries.
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Has Paul Anderson or Zander Diamond said anything?
MTFCMusings wrote:Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Has Paul Anderson or Zander Diamond said anything?
Anderson's wife has. Anderson also liked tweets confirming his departure, and Chipperfield's barbed tweet yesterday, as well as Lawrence Vigoroux's (former Swindon GK)
He's deleted his tweet from after the play-off the other night.
Hjeldefan wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Has Paul Anderson or Zander Diamond said anything?
Anderson's wife has. Anderson also liked tweets confirming his departure, and Chipperfield's barbed tweet yesterday, as well as Lawrence Vigoroux's (former Swindon GK)
He's deleted his tweet from after the play-off the other night.
What did he tweet the other night?
Stoney wrote:Hjeldefan wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Has Paul Anderson or Zander Diamond said anything?
Anderson's wife has. Anderson also liked tweets confirming his departure, and Chipperfield's barbed tweet yesterday, as well as Lawrence Vigoroux's (former Swindon GK)
He's deleted his tweet from after the play-off the other night.
What did he tweet the other night?
When we lost he tweeted 'To tweet or not to tweet' whilst quoting Mansfield reporting we had lost.
Hjeldefan wrote:Stoney wrote:Hjeldefan wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Has Paul Anderson or Zander Diamond said anything?
Anderson's wife has. Anderson also liked tweets confirming his departure, and Chipperfield's barbed tweet yesterday, as well as Lawrence Vigoroux's (former Swindon GK)
He's deleted his tweet from after the play-off the other night.
What did he tweet the other night?
When we lost he tweeted 'To tweet or not to tweet' whilst quoting Mansfield reporting we had lost.
Classy. Paid him a fortune to sit on his backside for months on end
stagsfan6493 wrote:Chander Lear wrote:tillydog123 wrote:Flitcroft was a very hard working and very decent guy although I was not a big fan and with luck he might have been issuing the retained list this week and planning for the assault on the Championship.
Football is very cruel sport these days.
very true.
I have no doubt we'd have finished 2nd without Bobby and white being injured. White is an irreplaceable win that formation and playing style.
Then why didn’t he change the formation instead of playing people out of position.
Seemed like a good guy but it is clear he had objectives this season set by JR/CR after last seasons nightmare of taking a club from 4th to 8th. He didn’t meet them, so has been let go.
He has been let down by his own tactical decisions, the basic requirement for a competent league manager.
gazza1988 wrote:stagsfan6493 wrote:Chander Lear wrote:tillydog123 wrote:Flitcroft was a very hard working and very decent guy although I was not a big fan and with luck he might have been issuing the retained list this week and planning for the assault on the Championship.
Football is very cruel sport these days.
very true.
I have no doubt we'd have finished 2nd without Bobby and white being injured. White is an irreplaceable win that formation and playing style.
Then why didn’t he change the formation instead of playing people out of position.
Seemed like a good guy but it is clear he had objectives this season set by JR/CR after last seasons nightmare of taking a club from 4th to 8th. He didn’t meet them, so has been let go.
He has been let down by his own tactical decisions, the basic requirement for a competent league manager.
It's simple. So many on here was upset he changed the style from what Evans was playing. Citing it as the reason we failed to cement the play-off spot we was in. SO he couldn't change at that stage of the season again. He learnt from that mistake and it ended up still being a mistake.
It can't be both ways, surely.
gazza1988 wrote:stagsfan6493 wrote:Chander Lear wrote:tillydog123 wrote:Flitcroft was a very hard working and very decent guy although I was not a big fan and with luck he might have been issuing the retained list this week and planning for the assault on the Championship.
Football is very cruel sport these days.
very true.
I have no doubt we'd have finished 2nd without Bobby and white being injured. White is an irreplaceable win that formation and playing style.
Then why didn’t he change the formation instead of playing people out of position.
Seemed like a good guy but it is clear he had objectives this season set by JR/CR after last seasons nightmare of taking a club from 4th to 8th. He didn’t meet them, so has been let go.
He has been let down by his own tactical decisions, the basic requirement for a competent league manager.
It's simple. So many on here was upset he changed the style from what Evans was playing. Citing it as the reason we failed to cement the play-off spot we was in. SO he couldn't change at that stage of the season again. He learnt from that mistake and it ended up still being a mistake.
It can't be both ways, surely.
Chander Lear wrote:kcassellsfootygenius wrote:Anybody think this went beyond football and is linked in part to his flat refusal to use the RH academy.
Only the astro turf, he kept saying he'd use the grass pitches when they are ready.
anyone who plays regular on a 3g, knows its not the kindest to the body.
stagsfan6493 wrote:gazza1988 wrote:stagsfan6493 wrote:Chander Lear wrote:tillydog123 wrote:Flitcroft was a very hard working and very decent guy although I was not a big fan and with luck he might have been issuing the retained list this week and planning for the assault on the Championship.
Football is very cruel sport these days.
very true.
I have no doubt we'd have finished 2nd without Bobby and white being injured. White is an irreplaceable win that formation and playing style.
Then why didn’t he change the formation instead of playing people out of position.
Seemed like a good guy but it is clear he had objectives this season set by JR/CR after last seasons nightmare of taking a club from 4th to 8th. He didn’t meet them, so has been let go.
He has been let down by his own tactical decisions, the basic requirement for a competent league manager.
It's simple. So many on here was upset he changed the style from what Evans was playing. Citing it as the reason we failed to cement the play-off spot we was in. SO he couldn't change at that stage of the season again. He learnt from that mistake and it ended up still being a mistake.
It can't be both ways, surely.
Well it can - this was his squad, therefore you would assume all season he would have worked on a Plan A and a Plan B (e.g 4 at the back). Surely he knew if white got injured then he might have to scrap the back 5?
Coming into a different mans squad and completely changing the style is different to changing the formation of your squad due to injuries.
adamstag wrote:The black and white of it was whereas he, the radfords and the fans all wanted him to succeed he couldn’t do what mattered when push come to shove.
Again, it’s a shame as he seemed a really nice, decent, honest guy but he wasn’t able to demonstrate how he would improve on his shortcomings as manager.
I still actually feel like we’ve been burgled - just how given where we were in February with the ridiculous resources provided - and about another 4 or so chances to get promoted - are we still on league 2 - ultimately that’s why Dave is no longer employed and that failure will be what he’s remembered for.
Kinda tragic for us all
It’s ironic that some who had a thing for flitcroft - a manager who started well then failed - hated Paul cox so much - a manager who could produce when it mattered
oldweststander wrote:We talk about back 3s and 4s, discuss who would be sacrificed in midfield if such changes were made mid game etc.
We are forgetting the primary reason we failed, missed chances by our strikers, only Walker showed anything and he should have scored more, Rose and Ajose looked the part until the ball came to them in the box.
If Rose had netted a third of the chances he missed we would gave been promoted by Easter.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but as it turned out Rose should have been sold for the £200k offered by the Posh, now he isn't worth a quarter of that and IMO that was not DF's fault.
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