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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sat May 11, 2019 11:06 am

David Mirfin (34) is a good player but I think his best days are behind him and he's very injury prone. I expect him to drop down to the National League.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Vice President » Sat May 11, 2019 11:27 am

EdwinstoweStag wrote:I’d stick Sweeney in the forward line alongside Walker


I take it that you are being a trifle facetious here Edders?

Actually, I think Pearce would be a better forward choice than Sweeney, should we get desperate in the last few mins.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sat May 11, 2019 12:34 pm

Vice President wrote:Actually, I think Pearce would be a better forward choice than Sweeney, should we get desperate in the last few mins.


I thought the same last week VP at MkDonalds FC. I also wondered why we did not have Zayn Hakeem or Jimmy Knowles on the bench to chuck on for 5 minutes if we needed a goal as that is better than resorting to sticking a centre half up front (although we had already used up our three subs).
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat May 11, 2019 12:41 pm

Sweeney did well up top I thought.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Sneag » Sat May 11, 2019 12:43 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Sweeney did well up top I thought.


How so?
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat May 11, 2019 1:16 pm

Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Sweeney did well up top I thought.


How so?


Unsettled their defenders, won a couple of headers which we hadn't won all game, drew the attention of their best header of the ball.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Sneag » Sat May 11, 2019 3:54 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Sweeney did well up top I thought.


How so?


Unsettled their defenders, won a couple of headers which we hadn't won all game, drew the attention of their best header of the ball.


If you say so.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat May 11, 2019 9:04 pm

Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Sweeney did well up top I thought.


How so?


Unsettled their defenders, won a couple of headers which we hadn't won all game, drew the attention of their best header of the ball.


If you say so.


I do. Thanks for your evidence to the contrary.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Sneag » Sat May 11, 2019 9:35 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Sweeney did well up top I thought.


How so?


Unsettled their defenders, won a couple of headers which we hadn't won all game, drew the attention of their best header of the ball.


If you say so.


I do. Thanks for your evidence to the contrary.


He achieved nothing, as evidenced by the Mansfield Town nil bit.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat May 11, 2019 10:41 pm

Thanks for that. You are aware a player can be effective but not score?
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Sneag » Sun May 12, 2019 6:24 am

MTFCMusings wrote:Thanks for that. You are aware a player can be effective but not score?


Well yes I am. As it goes I have seen one or two matches and played in a few too. Sweeney was sent forward to offer extra arial support to the front line (winning flick ons, having that bit of extra muscle to hold the ball up ect) so they could score. They didn't therefore Sweeney wasn't effective in that role.

Sweeney is a fine left sided centre back, a forward he ain't. If a game plan has gone the raspberries to the point where you need to send central defender forward, use Chief, excellent in the air, skilful on the deck and knows where the net is.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Vice President » Sun May 12, 2019 11:18 am

Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Thanks for that. You are aware a player can be effective but not score?


Well yes I am. As it goes I have seen one or two matches and played in a few too. Sweeney was sent forward to offer extra arial support to the front line (winning flick ons, having that bit of extra muscle to hold the ball up ect) so they could score. They didn't therefore Sweeney wasn't effective in that role.

Sweeney is a fine left sided centre back, a forward he ain't. If a game plan has gone the raspberries to the point where you need to send central defender forward, use Chief, excellent in the air, skilful on the deck and knows where the net is.


I agree - Pearce is the obvious choice to send forward, rather than Sweeney.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun May 12, 2019 11:39 am

Pearce is not as good in the air as Sweeney, that’s why he wasn’t sent forward. Sweeney was purely there to win headers. If you’re sending a player forward to be skilful then there would be 5 others you could send before the defenders.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Sneag » Sun May 12, 2019 12:35 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Pearce is not as good in the air as Sweeney, that’s why he wasn’t sent forward. Sweeney was purely there to win headers. If you’re sending a player forward to be skilful then there would be 5 others you could send before the defenders.


Are you just a contrary raspberry for the sake of it?
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun May 12, 2019 12:42 pm

Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Pearce is not as good in the air as Sweeney, that’s why he wasn’t sent forward. Sweeney was purely there to win headers. If you’re sending a player forward to be skilful then there would be 5 others you could send before the defenders.


Are you just a contrary raspberry for the sake of it?


What because I disagree with you on a discussion forum? Get a grip.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Sneag » Sun May 12, 2019 1:10 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Pearce is not as good in the air as Sweeney, that’s why he wasn’t sent forward. Sweeney was purely there to win headers. If you’re sending a player forward to be skilful then there would be 5 others you could send before the defenders.


Are you just a contrary raspberry for the sake of it?


What because I disagree with you on a discussion forum? Get a grip.


You are absolutely right, it's all about opinions.

And in my opinion you talk raspberry. ;)
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun May 12, 2019 1:14 pm

Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Sneag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Pearce is not as good in the air as Sweeney, that’s why he wasn’t sent forward. Sweeney was purely there to win headers. If you’re sending a player forward to be skilful then there would be 5 others you could send before the defenders.


Are you just a contrary raspberry for the sake of it?


What because I disagree with you on a discussion forum? Get a grip.


You are absolutely right, it's all about opinions.

And in my opinion you talk raspberry. ;)


Thankfully, I couldn't care less.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Terry Eccles Was God » Sun May 12, 2019 1:20 pm

Nearly 12000 posts between you, you both talk too much ;)

Thought Sweeney did OK when chucked up front at MKD, but would agree that Pearce would be more effective, but with the added risk of leaving us less secure at the back.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby jpstags » Sun May 12, 2019 1:42 pm

Terry Eccles Was God wrote:Nearly 12000 posts between you, you both talk too much ;)

Thought Sweeney did OK when chucked up front at MKD, but would agree that Pearce would be more effective, but with the added risk of leaving us less secure at the back.


Personally I would put Turner up front if needed, better in the air than either Pearce or Sweeney and doesn't have as much pace as the other two in order to defend the counter. Adam Murray said this when commentating on MK.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Terry Eccles Was God » Sun May 12, 2019 2:01 pm

jpstags wrote:
Terry Eccles Was God wrote:Nearly 12000 posts between you, you both talk too much ;)

Thought Sweeney did OK when chucked up front at MKD, but would agree that Pearce would be more effective, but with the added risk of leaving us less secure at the back.


Personally I would put Turner up front if needed, better in the air than either Pearce or Sweeney and doesn't have as much pace as the other two in order to defend the counter. Adam Murray said this when commentating on MK.

Good point, let’s hope we don’t need to today!
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby jpstags » Sun May 12, 2019 8:31 pm

Turner was a man mountain again tonight as we're all the centre backs, just a shame the rest of the team was so disjointed.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby kevin kents tasce » Sun May 12, 2019 8:33 pm

We need to get him on a contract ASAP. He was immense again tonight
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Kenwood » Mon May 13, 2019 6:28 am

kevin kents tasce wrote:We need to get him on a contract ASAP. He was immense again tonight


As good as Pearce has been especially this season Turner just looks the kind of person you make captain a real leader and no nonsense centre half.

Would be the first piece of business I’d do before other clubs come looking
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Chris M » Mon May 13, 2019 9:02 am

jpstags wrote:Turner was a man mountain again tonight as we're all the centre backs, just a shame the rest of the team was so disjointed.


Agreed. Now he is match fit he looks twice the player he was at Mardy Lane. He would be a great signing for next season. Some may say we already have enough defenders, but just one injury means no back up in his position.
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Re: Ben Turner

Postby Binghamstag » Mon May 13, 2019 9:10 am

He needs to be signed on now he is fit.
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