Chander Lear wrote:Sneag wrote:The frustrating thing with Grant, is we've all seen what he's capable of.
If it's an attitude problem, then maybe he would do well to reflect on the fact that he's got 8 games to prove to Forest he's as capable as Yates of getting into their first team squad, or 8 games to showcase himself to his next club.
Maybe he has already done this and is trying too hard to be a world beater instead of doing the simple things well.
Most fans will forgive a misplaced hollywood pass, if it's preceded by grafting for the team and (mostly) retaining possession.
Last night he was clearly scared of getting that 2nd booking, hence the weakness in some challenges. But we looked less threatening when he went off.
he was clearly frustrated at being subbed - passion?
BH_Stag wrote:I thought he was fine last night, and agree that we looked less threatening once he had gone off. not that I disagree with the substitution necessarily though.
He seems to get a lot of stick from our fans recently including last night, though I come in to work this morning and folk who watched on the box for the first time all picked him out as being the one who ‘you can tell he’s a level above when he’s on the ball’. He set off like a house on fire for us and to a degree I think peoples expectations may have risen too high after those initial 4 games, though I know he was signed to be the main man.
He was also our most creative and threatening player at Crawley in my opinion and I think he’ll find his match winning touch again soon.
Sheffieldstag wrote:BH_Stag wrote:I thought he was fine last night, and agree that we looked less threatening once he had gone off. not that I disagree with the substitution necessarily though.
He seems to get a lot of stick from our fans recently including last night, though I come in to work this morning and folk who watched on the box for the first time all picked him out as being the one who ‘you can tell he’s a level above when he’s on the ball’. He set off like a house on fire for us and to a degree I think peoples expectations may have risen too high after those initial 4 games, though I know he was signed to be the main man.
He was also our most creative and threatening player at Crawley in my opinion and I think he’ll find his match winning touch again soon.
Ditto, I thought most of out best moves came through Grant. I think he worked hard, closed down well and looked up for the game. The yellow was a shame as it was a penalty but he went missing second half hence quite rightly subbed. Mellis should have also been subbed sooner as nothing was coming off for him.
I would hate to see Grant become a boo boy as he is clearly a player with real quality.
scotsstag wrote:For those who thought Grant was fine, ok or whatever last night good god I'd hate to see him poor.
And yes I did travel hundreds of miles each way from Scotland to watch as I do home and away on quite a regular basis.
But I DO NOT agree with the abuse of any kind.
BH_Stag wrote:scotsstag wrote:For those who thought Grant was fine, ok or whatever last night good god I'd hate to see him poor.
And yes I did travel hundreds of miles each way from Scotland to watch as I do home and away on quite a regular basis.
But I DO NOT agree with the abuse of any kind.
He was better than Hamilton, Walker and Bishop yesterday, and we created absolutely nothing once he’d gone off. The stick he is getting is unwarranted.
Woodclanger 1 wrote:BH_Stag wrote:scotsstag wrote:For those who thought Grant was fine, ok or whatever last night good god I'd hate to see him poor.
And yes I did travel hundreds of miles each way from Scotland to watch as I do home and away on quite a regular basis.
But I DO NOT agree with the abuse of any kind.
He was better than Hamilton, Walker and Mellis yesterday, and we created absolutely nothing once he’d gone off. The stick he is getting is unwarranted.
That's your opinion, some of us differ, its an opinion based messageboard.
If you think mom Bishop didn't do his job and Grant did then fair enough (shaking head emoji)
BH_Stag wrote:Woodclanger 1 wrote:BH_Stag wrote:scotsstag wrote:For those who thought Grant was fine, ok or whatever last night good god I'd hate to see him poor.
And yes I did travel hundreds of miles each way from Scotland to watch as I do home and away on quite a regular basis.
But I DO NOT agree with the abuse of any kind.
He was better than Hamilton, Walker and Mellis yesterday, and we created absolutely nothing once he’d gone off. The stick he is getting is unwarranted.
That's your opinion, some of us differ, its an opinion based messageboard.
If you think mom Bishop didn't do his job and Grant did then fair enough (shaking head emoji)
Sorry, I meant Mellis (now edited). Bishop had a solid game.
scotsstag wrote:BH_Stag wrote:Woodclanger 1 wrote:BH_Stag wrote:scotsstag wrote:For those who thought Grant was fine, ok or whatever last night good god I'd hate to see him poor.
And yes I did travel hundreds of miles each way from Scotland to watch as I do home and away on quite a regular basis.
But I DO NOT agree with the abuse of any kind.
He was better than Hamilton, Walker and Mellis yesterday, and we created absolutely nothing once he’d gone off. The stick he is getting is unwarranted.
That's your opinion, some of us differ, its an opinion based messageboard.
If you think mom Bishop didn't do his job and Grant did then fair enough (shaking head emoji)
Sorry, I meant Mellis (now edited). Bishop had a solid game.
Already said Mellis had a poor game.
MTFCMusings wrote:He still contributed towards pretty much every good moment we had going forward :
-won the corner which led to the goal
-played in CJ to set up Walker
-could’ve won a penalty
-won a free kick from a dangerous position
-ball through for Hamilton chance in second half
stagsfan6493 wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:He still contributed towards pretty much every good moment we had going forward :
-won the corner which led to the goal
-played in CJ to set up Walker
-could’ve won a penalty
-won a free kick from a dangerous position
-ball through for Hamilton chance in second half
This - we are weaker going forward when he is not on the pitch.
S7AGS wrote:A few at work that are not Stags fans watched on Sky and both said Grant played well and were surprised he was taken off.
I'd have left grant on and taken Mellis off who really wasn't having a good game and replaced him with Tomlinson - he has good energy and good creativity....and as a midfield pair Bish and mini Bish would have given grant (or Khan later on) freedom to play/create.
Flitters seems to have got scared of making subs earlier on in the game (he was good at this to good effect before Christmas) - it was obvious to my untrained eye last night that Lincoln had got on top by about 60-65 mins and without significant changes to personnel and formation the lads on the pitch wouldn't turn the tide back in our favour and it turned out to be the case. The same happened last Tuesday....why no Khan or Ajose on ~60mins? Khan Did well when he came on v Port Vale and we needed a goal v a poor Crawley side so why not roll the dice? I think he only used Tomlinson from about 85mins....again, too late and probably the wrong player when you need a goal (I get it that Flitters had settled for a draw but why - playoffs isn't the aim?).
After the poor performance v Port Vale, the last 2 games have been much better (Crawley and Lincoln) but cant help but feel but for more 'bravery' in tactics / personnel we could easily have been 4 points better off - especially the Crawley game, they are not a good team as evidenced by them getting hammered at the weekend.
Frustrating
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