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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby steiner » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:06 pm

Resigned by text apparently.
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby Spiritater » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:46 pm

Scholes can afford to resign as he's a well off chap. He'll be more than likely wanting to get back into management soon but will not be doing it the hard way working his way up at grass roots. He'll be expecting to walk into some well off club just because he's Paul Scholes.

At least Sol is trying to learn his trade with Macc and they're in with a shout of survival (down to 3 now imo, Yeovil, Clownty and Macc) and if he keeps them up he'll have earned his corn and learned a lot.
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby Jamie » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:03 pm

To be fair I think from what I've read he left because the owner was meddling in team selection, or trying to. I don't blame him for leaving if that was the case. Apparently a lot of people said going there was a mistake with how the owner is but he loves the club so wanted to try.

That aside he made a poor start. 6 points from 21...

Talk of him joining the Man Utd coaching staff now.
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:33 pm

The next Salford Manager?
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby Jamie » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:39 pm

EdwinstoweStag wrote:The next Salford Manager?


Managing the team he owns... very unlikely.
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:00 pm

Jamie wrote:
EdwinstoweStag wrote:The next Salford Manager?


Managing the team he owns... very unlikely.


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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby nigegray » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:50 pm

Read he resigned by whats app?
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby chip63 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:16 am

Wind back to Saturday, 16 February.

Scholes sat in what passes for a press room at Boundary Park. Space was tight. Four hours earlier, the same room had been used for a team meeting to discuss Oldham's tactics for the day's League Two match against Crewe.

Instructions had been delivered. To an extent they had been executed. On an awful pitch, Oldham had taken a 23rd-minute lead through Callum Lang. But they had been hanging on when George Ray scored an injury-time equaliser.

Scholes, as he had done for most of the game, tucked his chin into his top and accepted his fate with barely a shrug.

Asked afterwards if he had wondered, at any point, what on earth he was doing there; why he was putting himself through such stress when he clearly doesn't need the money, Scholes responded in typically understated fashion. "Yep," he said. "All week."

He didn't know it at the time but life was to get no better.

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Paul Scholes took over with the Latics 14th in League Two and leaves with them in the same position
That same Saturday, Oldham owner Abdallah Lemsagam strolled around Boundary Park in a striking electric blue suit.

He was polite, courteous, happy to chat. But this did not appear to be a man who likes to take a back seat. There had been plenty of rumours before Scholes was appointed that Lemsagam was not afraid of getting heavily involved in team affairs.

It is not hard to work out, in his damning statement confirming he was quitting, what Scholes meant when he said: "Unfortunately it became clear that I would not be able to operate as intended and was led to believe prior to taking on the role."

Lemsagam is said to have been hurt and upset by the statement. Scholes had told his boss of his intention to quit on Wednesday evening. After that, he refused to accept calls.

The crux of the matter, BBC Sport has been told, was Lemsagam's interaction with Oldham's first-team squad.

Scholes felt strongly this was his domain.

Owning a professional lower league club is not a lucrative experience. Understandably, the owner micro-manages. He also likes to chat. He chats to the office staff. He chats to the cleaners. He chats to everyone. This includes players, coaches, physios. Without truly knowing it, Lemsagam was regularly crossing a line.

His previous managers - specifically Richie Wellens and Frankie Bunn - did not like it but largely kept their thoughts to themselves.

Scholes, blunt, experienced and financially secure, did not need to adopt the same stance.

It is understood harsh words were exchanged on more than one occasion. A relationship that needed to be strong gradually worsened.

Players were given contracts Scholes knew nothing about. The pitch was in such a state there was no chance of playing the kind of passing football he would instinctively want to implement.

For Scholes, what had seemed like the dream of managing his hometown club had turned into a nightmare.

Oldham owner Abdallah Lemsagam at Paul Scholes' unveiling as manager
Abdallah Lemsagam said Scholes "will have my backing 100%" when the ex-England midfielder was appointed
On Tuesday, Scholes, feeling distinctly under the weather, took his place on the touchline for an away game at Lincoln.

The temperature was freezing. Someone present said Scholes looked like an Eskimo on the touchline. As had been the case against Crewe five games earlier, he barely made a gesture as his team slipped to an expected defeat to the league leaders.

For Scholes, in many ways, it was a grim night.

Fans from both sides went on social media to suggest Scholes was unable to adjust to managing players at a level far below the one he was used to.

This assessment is unfair. Scholes quit long before a worthwhile judgement on his abilities could be made.

Throughout his illustrious club career, Scholes played for one man, Sir Alex Ferguson, whose control over the dressing room was unquestioned. At Oldham, this proved an illusion.

As positions became entrenched and the arguments with his owner became worse, Scholes concluded the hassle was just not worth it.

On Wednesday, having reflected on the futility of it all, Scholes tendered his resignation and severed communication.

Lemsagam fretted. He knew such a sudden end to an appointment made so recently, amid so much fanfare, would reflect badly on him and his club. He wanted the chance to talk Scholes round.

As each hour passed, his hope diminished. Just before 17:00 GMT on Thursday, it came to an end with a searing statement as Scholes explained it was "with great regret" he had not been able to "at least" see out the full 18 months of his contract as manager of "the club I have supported all my life".

All that is left now is sadness and thoughts of what might have been.
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby Martin Shaw » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:21 am

the above is from

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47578195

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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:48 am

Here is the Daily Mail article on Paul Scholes resigning at Oldham Athletic. They could go bust and save Notts County!!

"Meddling owner told him who to pick, no team bus for trip to Bury, bailiffs turned off gas supply and players had to wash their own kit"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... EPORT.html
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby yellowstagsfan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:40 pm

Steve Evans in frame for job.
Now that would be interesting!
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby ST4GS » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:14 pm

yellowstagsfan wrote:Steve Evans in frame for job.
Now that would be interesting!

As Barry Davies once commentated: "interesting, very interesting!!!"
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby Sedgwick » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:37 pm

I hope he does go there, because with no money to spent he'll be exposed as the fraud of a football manager he is... Results weren't that great for us when he had the likes of Hoban etc
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Oldham ticket sales

Postby Stags 2002 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:23 pm



Hopefully we can shift a few more tomorrow before they go off sale! However can still can be purchased on the day so people may be holding off buying.

Had hoped for at least 1500.
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:06 am

Sedgwick wrote:I hope he does go there, because with no money to spent he'll be exposed as the fraud of a football manager he is... Results weren't that great for us when he had the likes of Hoban etc


It was Adam Murray who signed Pat Hoban not Steve Evans. Pat Hoban has since scored 35 goals for Dundalk.

Steve Evans signed Jimmy Spencer who is the third top scorer in the Northern Premier League for Farsley Celtic with 19 goals.
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby marker_mtfc95 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:23 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:I hope he does go there, because with no money to spent he'll be exposed as the fraud of a football manager he is... Results weren't that great for us when he had the likes of Hoban etc


It was Adam Murray who signed Pat Hoban not Steve Evans. Pat Hoban has since scored 35 goals for Dundalk.

Steve Evans signed Jimmy Spencer who is the third top scorer in the Northern Premier League for Farsley Celtic with 19 goals.


Both of which wasn’t good enough for us :lol:
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby The One » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:33 am

yellowstagsfan wrote:Steve Evans in frame for job.
Now that would be interesting!


Closer to his home in Pboro :D
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Re: Oldham ticket sales

Postby Spiritater » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:33 pm

Stags 2002 wrote:

Hopefully we can shift a few more tomorrow before they go off sale! However can still can be purchased on the day so people may be holding off buying.

Had hoped for at least 1500.

Should imagine that a fair few will have had their appetites whetted by today's fare and will now travel and buy on the day.
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby yellowstagsfan » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:13 pm

The One wrote:
yellowstagsfan wrote:Steve Evans in frame for job.
Now that would be interesting!


Closer to his home in Pboro :D

Apparently can’t take a job yet as still having his salary paid by Peterborough
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby I am Spartacus » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:22 am

There is a thread on the Oldham Forum from fans wishing to organise a protest against their owners for this game. Ranging from boycotts, sitting in only one stand through to lobbing tennis balls on the pitch.

Hopefully this may distract the Oldham players. COYS
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:38 pm

yellowstagsfan wrote:
The One wrote:
yellowstagsfan wrote:Steve Evans in frame for job.
Now that would be interesting!


Closer to his home in Pboro :D

Apparently can’t take a job yet as still having his salary paid by Peterborough
Does that apply if he takes up a managers post in China :roll:
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Re: Oldham (A) LIVE ON SKY

Postby hibbmtfc » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:47 pm

delete this please
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