Spiritater wrote:The issue of pay on a turnstile has a little bit of 'legs' but it can't over ride the fact that folk who've pre bought tickets have priority. Suppose it's a big game, Direites or Clownty etc then you just can't rock up early and pay on the gate and sit anywhere as many or most of the seats will have been pre booked and nobody'll be wanting to find another seat if Tof's sat in theirs as a pay on the gate customer. It'd mean for big games having a complete section in each stand set aside for the odd 20-30 folk who want to turn up with £22 and give it to a turnstile operative.
This'd probably mean 5-600 seats in the whole stadium being left empty for big games plus the Gabbitas buffer zones.
Also if there wasn't areas set aside for POTG folk then if say 5 or 6 turned up as a group for a 'big' game and all wanted to sit together (having downed 5-6 pints each in the Talbot pre game) then I'd imagine there'd be arguements if they're asked to 'hop it youth' by someone who's paid and pre booked those seats for him and his family.
I can't see why you just can't go to the booths Tof if you've made your mind up to go and turn up 10 minutes earlier.
And these are probably the reasons why the Stags don't do it. I kind of understand the reasoning as well (reduced complexity for the club, some of the rules maybe come from Gabbitas or the SAG) - but no casual fan in their right mind should be expecting special treatment when the big games come around.
Your last sentence is fair enough but you're talking as a Stags' supporter and not the casual fan I've become in recent years (live in Germany). I see it differently now, I'm not prepared to accept every dictat from the club. The club should make it as easy as possible for me, within limits, to come if they want the money. At the end of the day it's my decision whether I take up their offer. At the moment the added complexity (from my side) just makes the high cost of games (here in Germany I can sometimes watch Mönchengladbach play in the Bundesliga cheaper than I can watch Stags' home games) even more annoying and has tipped the balance to staying away.
Another reason I didn't mention before:
If I'm coming on my own instead of with the family, I can't sit with my mates any more. They've got season tickets in a decent position in the IGU so I can no longer sit with them due to the pre-booking of seats - in the first 15 years of my exile I'd just turn up and the people around would make a space because we'd know each other. Now all the empty places nearby tend to be pre-booked and there's only a very small chance of sitting right next to my mates. And who really wants to sit on their own` when part of the fun was spending time with your mates?
Perhaps I'm being too precious but hey, I'm nearly 50 so I'm good at having an entrenched position and sticking to it
Maybe things will change if the football gets better or we're higher up the table and I'll come again but for the moment I'll just keep checking if fans can pay on the turnstiles at away games. Some League 2 teams still do it, Conference games (Darlo, Telford, Nuneaton, Tamworth, Forest Green) were fantastic for it - perhaps they need(ed) the money more than the Stags do.