daddycool wrote:According to the Stockport commentators Pym is reportedly the highest paid player in the league at plus 4K a wk
tmwilson wrote:yorkshire stag wrote:marksay wrote:Lol
He said the same last season
that he did, some times the manager has to take ownership of his stance !
he runs a squad at least two light
same old story
Two light? Yes we needed a back up for Macca but he tried to sign one in the last window no doubt you will see that as a failure instead of looking at the three quality players we brought in. So what other position?
Cleveland_Stag wrote:Harbottle - I’m indifferent towards him. I think he’s an okay league two centre back, nothing more or less. Wouldn’t be upset if we tried to loan him in again but I’m also wary that only six teams have conceded more goals than us this season. We need to improve there.
bellwhiff wrote:If you always do what you always did, you’ll always get what you always got.
Stoney wrote:Cleveland_Stag wrote:Harbottle - I’m indifferent towards him. I think he’s an okay league two centre back, nothing more or less. Wouldn’t be upset if we tried to loan him in again but I’m also wary that only six teams have conceded more goals than us this season. We need to improve there.
To be fair we are so much better defensively when Harbottle plays.
He has played 28 leagues games and in them games we have conceded just 29 goals. So in the other 8 games he didn't feature in we conceded 16 goals.
Average that out over the season and we would only be conceding 47 goals. That sort of figure is typical for a play off or top 3 side defence.
I'd get Harbottle and Swan back for another season if possible.
Cleveland_Stag wrote:Stoney wrote:Cleveland_Stag wrote:Harbottle - I’m indifferent towards him. I think he’s an okay league two centre back, nothing more or less. Wouldn’t be upset if we tried to loan him in again but I’m also wary that only six teams have conceded more goals than us this season. We need to improve there.
To be fair we are so much better defensively when Harbottle plays.
He has played 28 leagues games and in them games we have conceded just 29 goals. So in the other 8 games he didn't feature in we conceded 16 goals.
Average that out over the season and we would only be conceding 47 goals. That sort of figure is typical for a play off or top 3 side defence.
I'd get Harbottle and Swan back for another season if possible.
Ahh, that’s an encouraging statistic, thanks. Going off that then I’d be more open to us trying to bring him back. I do harbour memories of him really struggling at times to get to grips with men’s football but I think most of these instances were in the first few months of the season. He has improved since then to be fair to him.
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:The main reason we are seeing a big improvement in Harbottle is the fact that we are now playing him on the right of the defence which is his natural position. It was totally unfair to play him on the left in the first few months as not only was he very inexperienced but also playing on his weaker side. He is much improved since the switch.
Cleveland_Stag wrote:Pym - consider signing him if he’ll accept reduced wages, otherwise, I’m sure we can sign a keeper who’s just as good on less money.
Flinders - re-sign him as your backup if the price is right.
Perch - He might retire. If he doesn’t, let him go anyway. Good servant to the club but he’s not good enough now. He can’t handle it whenever a game gets a bit frantic. Can imagine he’s on a decent wage.
Wallace - Let him go. He’s non-league standard.
Quinn - Same with Perch, let him go regardless of whether he retires or not. Tidy footballer but if you’re being picky he probably doesn’t create or score nearly enough goals for the presumably generous wage he’ll be on.
DJ - let him go.
Harbottle - I’m indifferent towards him. I think he’s an okay league two centre back, nothing more or less. Wouldn’t be upset if we tried to loan him in again but I’m also wary that only six teams have conceded more goals than us this season. We need to improve there.
Swan - 100% try and sign him or loan him in. I think there will be League 1 interest in him however.
O’Toole - He’s got another year on his contract after this season. Try and offload him but I really can’t see a team wanting to pay him enough money for him to want to go.
I think we can get much better value for money than the wages Perch, Quinn, Pym and O’Toole are on for a start. The key this summer is having a clear plan on the formation we want to play next season and bring in players who really fit the system. We decided to go with wings backs this season however we’ve never had the quality or depth at the wing back or centre back positions to make the formation properly work.
Personally, I’d like our ‘big money’ signings this summer to be on two quality centre backs if we’re continuing with a wing back formation next season. It’d be great if we can win more games that we play poorly in next season because we’re keeping a lot more clean sheets (E.g Northampton the past couple of seasons).
Waggy wrote:What complete idiots Nigel and his team are. With the obvious need for left footed defenders, why didn't they pop along to LeftiesRus when they had a sale and get a class fullback, at a great price, who's available and wants to play wholeheartedly for Mansfield Town, without getting injured? They must have loads of them!
Waggy wrote:What complete idiots Nigel and his team are. With the obvious need for left footed defenders, why didn't they pop along to LeftiesRus when they had a sale and get a class fullback, at a great price, who's available and wants to play wholeheartedly for Mansfield Town, without getting injured? They must have loads of them!
Rob wrote:Waggy wrote:What complete idiots Nigel and his team are. With the obvious need for left footed defenders, why didn't they pop along to LeftiesRus when they had a sale and get a class fullback, at a great price, who's available and wants to play wholeheartedly for Mansfield Town, without getting injured? They must have loads of them!
Sorry Waggy I don't agree, Morecambe recently signed an out of contract left back and plenty more moved in January. We will sign one in the summer but again a year too late. It's mistakes like this, pointed out by many last summer, that's costing us promotion.
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