{ the forum }
 
An independent supporters' website dedicated to Mansfield Town FC

Lucas

Discuss all things Stags and Football League Two, and share stuff using our BBCodes.
Forum rules
Please read the Posting Rules before participating. Posting on the forums is subject to adhering to these.
Also, see the Guidelines for Posting. Moderators may sometimes tidy posts which do not follow these customs.

Re: Lucas

Postby zod » Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:47 pm

Agreed, fair play to him. Put a rate shift in
zod
Assistant Manager
Assistant Manager
 
Posts: 1076
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:31 am

Re: Lucas

Postby zod » Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:48 pm

Edit
zod
Assistant Manager
Assistant Manager
 
Posts: 1076
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:31 am

Re: Lucas

Postby bellwhiff » Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:33 pm

One thing that’s always been good is his hold up play.
Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier...

Samuel Johnson
User avatar
bellwhiff
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 19498
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:14 pm

Akins

Postby yorkstag » Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:26 am

I’m sure there’s a thread on this somewhere but having watched him over the last few games anyone that doesn’t see what he brings knows nothing about football.

I think he’s awesome
yorkstag
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 3244
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 2:52 pm

Re: Akins

Postby tiptop » Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:37 am

When played in the correct position (upfront) with the right player's around him,akins is a class player and bring alot to the team...
Since we signed dunn playing with akins no surprise akins class has shown what a good valuable player he is, nothing against akins his is not a right back,wing back,winger and I feel when he plays these positions,he looks like a donkey and looks lost on the pitch (even though he tries) I feel it makes him worse ...
tiptop
Subs Bench
Subs Bench
 
Posts: 661
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:30 pm

Re: Akins

Postby yorkshire stag » Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:41 am

tiptop wrote:When played in the correct position (upfront) with the right player's around him,akins is a class player and bring alot to the team...
Since we signed dunn playing with akins no surprise akins class has shown what a good valuable player he is, nothing against akins his is not a right back,wing back,winger and I feel when he plays these positions,he looks like a donkey and looks lost on the pitch (even though he tries) I feel it makes him worse ...


:good_post:

as stated all season play square pegs in square holes & we will match most teams in this league
Our time will come
User avatar
yorkshire stag
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 14617
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:35 pm

Re: Akins

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:05 pm

yorkshire stag wrote:
tiptop wrote:When played in the correct position (upfront) with the right player's around him,akins is a class player and bring alot to the team...
Since we signed dunn playing with akins no surprise akins class has shown what a good valuable player he is, nothing against akins his is not a right back,wing back,winger and I feel when he plays these positions,he looks like a donkey and looks lost on the pitch (even though he tries) I feel it makes him worse ...


:good_post:

as stated all season play square pegs in square holes & we will match most teams in this league
We don't always have the luxury to do that. NC likes to have a smaller tight knit squad with versatility. Unfortunately the amount of injured players we have currently has stretched us greatly. The other option is to have two or three specialist players for each position. The danger with that is it can cause unrest with those players who have to sit in the stand.
Amber Andy
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:38 am

Re: Akins

Postby PEAR CIDER » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:08 pm

Excellent indeed
PEAR CIDER
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 6164
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:04 am

Re: Akins

Postby Rob » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:31 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:
tiptop wrote:When played in the correct position (upfront) with the right player's around him,akins is a class player and bring alot to the team...
Since we signed dunn playing with akins no surprise akins class has shown what a good valuable player he is, nothing against akins his is not a right back,wing back,winger and I feel when he plays these positions,he looks like a donkey and looks lost on the pitch (even though he tries) I feel it makes him worse ...


:good_post:

as stated all season play square pegs in square holes & we will match most teams in this league
We don't always have the luxury to do that. NC likes to have a smaller tight knit squad with versatility. Unfortunately the amount of injured players we have currently has stretched us greatly. The other option is to have two or three specialist players for each position. The danger with that is it can cause unrest with those players who have to sit in the stand.


That's fine, but Yorkie is right, we play better when our players play in their best positions - Akins has been superb in his central attacking role where he is clearly at his most effective - the difference has been quite staggering. The small squad is by choice and I think we have suffered for it this season - I honestly believe 2 more players (a CB and a LB/LWB) and a replacement for Danny Johnson if we'd sold him, would have seen us comfortably in the top 3 as we would have been much better placed to cope with the injuries to Oates, Macca and Harbottle. This would also have allowed us to loan out Gale and Law to get much needed regular football. Despite all the injuries to midfield players we have coped well there, I think that tells its own story.
Rob
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 10578
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:33 am

Re: Akins

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:37 pm

Rob wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:
tiptop wrote:When played in the correct position (upfront) with the right player's around him,akins is a class player and bring alot to the team...
Since we signed dunn playing with akins no surprise akins class has shown what a good valuable player he is, nothing against akins his is not a right back,wing back,winger and I feel when he plays these positions,he looks like a donkey and looks lost on the pitch (even though he tries) I feel it makes him worse ...


:good_post:

as stated all season play square pegs in square holes & we will match most teams in this league
We don't always have the luxury to do that. NC likes to have a smaller tight knit squad with versatility. Unfortunately the amount of injured players we have currently has stretched us greatly. The other option is to have two or three specialist players for each position. The danger with that is it can cause unrest with those players who have to sit in the stand.


That's fine, but Yorkie is right, we play better when our players play in their best positions - Akins has been superb in his central attacking role where he is clearly at his most effective - the difference has been quite staggering. The small squad is by choice and I think we have suffered for it this season - I honestly believe 2 more players (a CB and a LB/LWB) and a replacement for Danny Johnson if we'd sold him, would have seen us comfortably in the top 3 as we would have been much better placed to cope with the injuries to Oates, Macca and Harbottle. This would also have allowed us to loan out Gale and Law to get much needed regular football. Despite all the injuries to midfield players we have coped well there, I think that tells its own story.

I wouldn't even have bothered signing a replacement for DJ had he left. Just get a CB and a LB/LWB in.

Clough likes a small squad. Didn't someone share the squad list not long ago and we have 21 outfield 1st team players? that enough for 2 for every position and a "spare".
post meanings:
I know what I'm doing
Just guessing
You're an idiot and I'm poking you with a stick
User avatar
gazza1988
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 18200
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:23 pm
Location: Beeston, Nottingham

Re: Akins

Postby Rob » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:46 pm

I would imagine the rules allow clubs to replace long term injured players so effectively our squad is 19 given the long term injuries to Hartigan and JJ.
Rob
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 10578
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:33 am

Re: Akins

Postby Jimmy11 » Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:06 pm

However it is true that Mr Akins has been impressive recently and deserves the praise from all of us. ☺
Jimmy11
Youth Team
Youth Team
 
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:47 am

Re: Akins

Postby Billy the fish » Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:59 pm

Rob wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:
tiptop wrote:When played in the correct position (upfront) with the right player's around him,akins is a class player and bring alot to the team...
Since we signed dunn playing with akins no surprise akins class has shown what a good valuable player he is, nothing against akins his is not a right back,wing back,winger and I feel when he plays these positions,he looks like a donkey and looks lost on the pitch (even though he tries) I feel it makes him worse ...


:good_post:

Totally agree with this Rob and if we don’t make it then the management team need to be accountable, we are still hanging in there and let’s hope we can continue too pick up point by no means is Rochdale a Gimme on Monday the fans need to get behind them from k/o the 12th man is more evidently needed than any other time of the season .. coys

as stated all season play square pegs in square holes & we will match most teams in this league
We don't always have the luxury to do that. NC likes to have a smaller tight knit squad with versatility. Unfortunately the amount of injured players we have currently has stretched us greatly. The other option is to have two or three specialist players for each position. The danger with that is it can cause unrest with those players who have to sit in the stand.


That's fine, but Yorkie is right, we play better when our players play in their best positions - Akins has been superb in his central attacking role where he is clearly at his most effective - the difference has been quite staggering. The small squad is by choice and I think we have suffered for it this season - I honestly believe 2 more players (a CB and a LB/LWB) and a replacement for Danny Johnson if we'd sold him, would have seen us comfortably in the top 3 as we would have been much better placed to cope with the injuries to Oates, Macca and Harbottle. This would also have allowed us to loan out Gale and Law to get much needed regular football. Despite all the injuries to midfield players we have coped well there, I think that tells its own story.
User avatar
Billy the fish
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 2737
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:54 pm

Re: Akins

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:22 pm

Rob wrote:I would imagine the rules allow clubs to replace long term injured players so effectively our squad is 19 given the long term injuries to Hartigan and JJ.


Clubs are limited to register 22 outfield players over 23 (I think, could be 23 and over but it's around that, night be 22)

Clubs register their playing staff as the window closes. You can add to it, if there's a slot but I don't think you can remove a player outside a transfer window.

Say we get a broken leg in January, out for the rest of the season and probably a bit of the next we could deregister them to make space if we are full.

Players under 23 (or 22) don't need to be registered and are eligible to play.

We registered JJ and Hartigan in January so are part of the squad
post meanings:
I know what I'm doing
Just guessing
You're an idiot and I'm poking you with a stick
User avatar
gazza1988
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 18200
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:23 pm
Location: Beeston, Nottingham

Re: Akins

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:22 pm

Might get shot down, but it’s not just about being in favoured positions. It can just take months to adjust to a new club/style etc, alongside the position. Once it all comes together it works. You could see he had something, even when folks were getting on his back and now with a bit of confidence, time and better positioning, he looks in top form. Cracking target man. Like the guy a lot…he never let the boo boys get to him. Well done Lucas!
cassellswasmagic
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 5827
Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 2:12 pm

Re: Akins

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:25 pm

I think Akins "issue" was he was injured before he joined and Hasselbaink played him injured and he never actually recovered fully. Chopping and changing positions didn't help matters.
post meanings:
I know what I'm doing
Just guessing
You're an idiot and I'm poking you with a stick
User avatar
gazza1988
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 18200
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:23 pm
Location: Beeston, Nottingham

Re: Akins

Postby yorkshire stag » Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:21 pm

Rob wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:
tiptop wrote:When played in the correct position (upfront) with the right player's around him,akins is a class player and bring alot to the team...
Since we signed dunn playing with akins no surprise akins class has shown what a good valuable player he is, nothing against akins his is not a right back,wing back,winger and I feel when he plays these positions,he looks like a donkey and looks lost on the pitch (even though he tries) I feel it makes him worse ...


:good_post:

as stated all season play square pegs in square holes & we will match most teams in this league
We don't always have the luxury to do that. NC likes to have a smaller tight knit squad with versatility. Unfortunately the amount of injured players we have currently has stretched us greatly. The other option is to have two or three specialist players for each position. The danger with that is it can cause unrest with those players who have to sit in the stand.


That's fine, but Yorkie is right, we play better when our players play in their best positions - Akins has been superb in his central attacking role where he is clearly at his most effective - the difference has been quite staggering. The small squad is by choice and I think we have suffered for it this season - I honestly believe 2 more players (a CB and a LB/LWB) and a replacement for Danny Johnson if we'd sold him, would have seen us comfortably in the top 3 as we would have been much better placed to cope with the injuries to Oates, Macca and Harbottle. This would also have allowed us to loan out Gale and Law to get much needed regular football. Despite all the injuries to midfield players we have coped well there, I think that tells its own story.


absolutely spot on Rob, totally still don’t understand why he didn’t strengthen CB & LB/LWB
however we are were we are
Our time will come
User avatar
yorkshire stag
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 14617
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:35 pm

Re: Akins

Postby Elkesley Stag » Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:39 pm

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=41199

I love stagsnet

18 pages on why he should not be picked .


Get out clause , of “ I always said he would come come in his natural position “ is available for anyone who needs it .
Last edited by Elkesley Stag on Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Elkesley Stag
Reserve Team
Reserve Team
 
Posts: 295
Joined: Wed May 25, 2022 11:42 am

Re: Akins

Postby geoffhill » Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:42 pm

I have always supported Akins even when he was going through a rough patch.He is now one of the first names on the team sheet.Up front is his best position obviously.When he is told to play elsewhere he always gives his all.That's what I like about him.
geoffhill
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 2694
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:21 pm

Re: Akins

Postby bear 73 » Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:04 pm

It took 3 transfer windows to get Akins and it was his wish to be here , he was brought here to do a job and is favoured position is right wing back which he played to great effect with John Brayford.
A good player always remains a good player though loss of form or injury can effect their game.
The staff and players and the majority of fans understood leaving a club after 8 years after being a legend and being injured could take time to adjust.
He can frustrate you and its easy to miss the work that he does
bear 73
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 2026
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:01 pm

Re: Akins

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:10 pm

geoffhill wrote:I have always supported Akins even when he was going through a rough patch.He is now one of the first names on the team sheet.Up front is his best position obviously.When he is told to play elsewhere he always gives his all.That's what I like about him.

Well said.
cassellswasmagic
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 5827
Joined: Tue May 07, 2013 2:12 pm

Re: Akins

Postby Oladamber66 » Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:26 pm

Which only proves that our Nigel knows what he's talking about.....unlike the doubters on here ....he's a key player works hard ..and comes up with goods .... when it counts ....keep going Lucas Akins
Oladamber66
Reserve Team
Reserve Team
 
Posts: 252
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:22 am

Re: Akins

Postby Rob » Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:54 pm

Got to love selective memories :lol: Akins has been superb lately but was poor last season and the first few months of this, Clough himself dropped him many times. Bear says his best position is right wing back, well maybe so at Burton, but absolutely not here. It's the move to a central attacking role that has transformed his performances. He deserves huge credit, he's never, ever lacked effort, which is why I've always cut him some slack, but now he is performing and is one of our most important players.
Rob
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 10578
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:33 am

Re: Akins

Postby tmwilson » Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:12 pm

As the thread is about his current form, I agree. Akins has been outstanding for a few months now
tmwilson
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 2337
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:38 pm

Re: LUCAS AKINS

Postby Now in America » Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:00 am

Now in America wrote:He is the type of player that is very difficult to play against. His gait with the use of his arms,legs,knees and elbows makes it difficult for his markers to get close to him. I think Hayden White would testify to that when trying to stop him crossing the ball for the winning goal yesterday. He was actually pushed in the face. In my view he is a valuable member of the first team group of players that the Club have assembled.

Nothing has changed since my post last October when his inclusion in the team had been questioned by many. He is the type of player that gives opponents nightmares to play against.
Now in America
Youth Team
Youth Team
 
Posts: 10
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:13 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Stagsnet Main Discussion Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: BH_Stag, Bing [Bot], Nutty Stag, stags1963, stagshead, Stephen and 142 guests