{ the forum }
 
An independent supporters' website dedicated to Mansfield Town FC

Jobs at Stags

Discuss all things Stags and Football League Two, and share stuff using our BBCodes.
Forum rules
Please read the Posting Rules before participating. Posting on the forums is subject to adhering to these.
Also, see the Guidelines for Posting. Moderators may sometimes tidy posts which do not follow these customs.

Jobs at Stags

Postby Dan » Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:17 pm

https://uk.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=76780f ... dsr2ace00b

Full Job Description
Mansfield Town Football Club are currently recruiting bar and service staff for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen, hospitality, events and kiosks throughout the 2022-23 season.

The club would like to open the invite to enthusiastic individuals with a can-do attitude who would be interested in working on a casual basis for the club.
We are looking for individuals who are friendly, enthusiastic, professional and able to work in a fast-paced environment.

Experience is not essential as training can be provided.

You must also be available to work first-team home matches as a minimum, which includes some evening games. We are also looking for individuals who can work day and evening shifts during the week for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen as well as conferences and events with a flexible approach to availability.

Prior experience in food handling, customer service and cash handling is preferable, but not necessary for an application to be accepted.

To apply for this position, please respond to the advert to express your interest.

Job Types: Part-time, Zero hours contract

Salary: £4.81-£9.50 per hour

Benefits:

Company events
Discounted or free food
Employee discount
On-site parking
Store discount
Schedule:

Day shift
Night shift
Weekend availability
Work Location: One location
Dan
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 10711
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:26 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby zod » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:32 am

Dan wrote:https://uk.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=76780f88e4cab645&l=Ng190lt&tk=1gjlobdsr2ace00b&from=ja&alid=635098456650df1c2a98ea19&utm_campaign=job_alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jobseeker_emails&rgtk=1gjlobdsr2ace00b

Full Job Description
Mansfield Town Football Club are currently recruiting bar and service staff for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen, hospitality, events and kiosks throughout the 2022-23 season.

The club would like to open the invite to enthusiastic individuals with a can-do attitude who would be interested in working on a casual basis for the club.
We are looking for individuals who are friendly, enthusiastic, professional and able to work in a fast-paced environment.

Experience is not essential as training can be provided.

You must also be available to work first-team home matches as a minimum, which includes some evening games. We are also looking for individuals who can work day and evening shifts during the week for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen as well as conferences and events with a flexible approach to availability.

Prior experience in food handling, customer service and cash handling is preferable, but not necessary for an application to be accepted.

To apply for this position, please respond to the advert to express your interest.

Job Types: Part-time, Zero hours contract

Salary: £4.81-£9.50 per hour

Benefits:

Company events
Discounted or free food
Employee discount
On-site parking
Store discount
Schedule:

Day shift
Night shift
Weekend availability
Work Location: One location


£9.50 an hour for serving rock hard pies to customers isn't bad.
zod
Subs Bench
Subs Bench
 
Posts: 496
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:31 am

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby stag324 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:49 am

zod wrote:
Dan wrote:https://uk.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=76780f88e4cab645&l=Ng190lt&tk=1gjlobdsr2ace00b&from=ja&alid=635098456650df1c2a98ea19&utm_campaign=job_alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jobseeker_emails&rgtk=1gjlobdsr2ace00b

Full Job Description
Mansfield Town Football Club are currently recruiting bar and service staff for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen, hospitality, events and kiosks throughout the 2022-23 season.

The club would like to open the invite to enthusiastic individuals with a can-do attitude who would be interested in working on a casual basis for the club.
We are looking for individuals who are friendly, enthusiastic, professional and able to work in a fast-paced environment.

Experience is not essential as training can be provided.

You must also be available to work first-team home matches as a minimum, which includes some evening games. We are also looking for individuals who can work day and evening shifts during the week for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen as well as conferences and events with a flexible approach to availability.

Prior experience in food handling, customer service and cash handling is preferable, but not necessary for an application to be accepted.

To apply for this position, please respond to the advert to express your interest.

Job Types: Part-time, Zero hours contract

Salary: £4.81-£9.50 per hour

Benefits:

Company events
Discounted or free food
Employee discount
On-site parking
Store discount
Schedule:

Day shift
Night shift
Weekend availability
Work Location: One location


£9.50 an hour for serving rock hard pies to customers isn't bad.


but £4.81 is shocking and shouldn't be allowed
stag324
First Team
First Team
 
Posts: 983
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:37 am

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby zod » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:18 am

stag324 wrote:
zod wrote:
Dan wrote:https://uk.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=76780f88e4cab645&l=Ng190lt&tk=1gjlobdsr2ace00b&from=ja&alid=635098456650df1c2a98ea19&utm_campaign=job_alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jobseeker_emails&rgtk=1gjlobdsr2ace00b

Full Job Description
Mansfield Town Football Club are currently recruiting bar and service staff for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen, hospitality, events and kiosks throughout the 2022-23 season.

The club would like to open the invite to enthusiastic individuals with a can-do attitude who would be interested in working on a casual basis for the club.
We are looking for individuals who are friendly, enthusiastic, professional and able to work in a fast-paced environment.

Experience is not essential as training can be provided.

You must also be available to work first-team home matches as a minimum, which includes some evening games. We are also looking for individuals who can work day and evening shifts during the week for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen as well as conferences and events with a flexible approach to availability.

Prior experience in food handling, customer service and cash handling is preferable, but not necessary for an application to be accepted.

To apply for this position, please respond to the advert to express your interest.

Job Types: Part-time, Zero hours contract

Salary: £4.81-£9.50 per hour

Benefits:

Company events
Discounted or free food
Employee discount
On-site parking
Store discount
Schedule:

Day shift
Night shift
Weekend availability
Work Location: One location


£9.50 an hour for serving rock hard pies to customers isn't bad.


but £4.81 is shocking and shouldn't be allowed


£4.81 is national minimum wage for under 18s.
zod
Subs Bench
Subs Bench
 
Posts: 496
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:31 am

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:32 am

zod wrote:
stag324 wrote:
zod wrote:
Dan wrote:https://uk.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=76780f88e4cab645&l=Ng190lt&tk=1gjlobdsr2ace00b&from=ja&alid=635098456650df1c2a98ea19&utm_campaign=job_alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jobseeker_emails&rgtk=1gjlobdsr2ace00b

Full Job Description
Mansfield Town Football Club are currently recruiting bar and service staff for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen, hospitality, events and kiosks throughout the 2022-23 season.

The club would like to open the invite to enthusiastic individuals with a can-do attitude who would be interested in working on a casual basis for the club.
We are looking for individuals who are friendly, enthusiastic, professional and able to work in a fast-paced environment.

Experience is not essential as training can be provided.

You must also be available to work first-team home matches as a minimum, which includes some evening games. We are also looking for individuals who can work day and evening shifts during the week for Sandy’s Bar & Kitchen as well as conferences and events with a flexible approach to availability.

Prior experience in food handling, customer service and cash handling is preferable, but not necessary for an application to be accepted.

To apply for this position, please respond to the advert to express your interest.

Job Types: Part-time, Zero hours contract

Salary: £4.81-£9.50 per hour

Benefits:

Company events
Discounted or free food
Employee discount
On-site parking
Store discount
Schedule:

Day shift
Night shift
Weekend availability
Work Location: One location


£9.50 an hour for serving rock hard pies to customers isn't bad.


but £4.81 is shocking and shouldn't be allowed


£4.81 is national minimum wage for under 18s.


Well it’s a national disgrace then. Not far short of slave Labour and an exploitation of our youth.
Hello! Hello! We are the North Stand Boys.
Sandy Pate Best Stag
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 6168
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:37 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby HitchcocksShins » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:39 am

Love it when "on-site parking" is part of the benefits of a job. Proper scraping that barrel.
No mention of if it's free or not, though
twitter.com/SatiricalStag

"Couldn't you just stick to crayoning in poorly drawn pics?"
User avatar
HitchcocksShins
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 2738
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:17 am

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby arsene wengers coat » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:11 pm

This scandalously low hourly wage is probably why they can't get the staff and the staff they do get don't give a monkeys.
You've got to go there and come back, to know where you've been.
User avatar
arsene wengers coat
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 7159
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:03 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby Costastag » Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:11 pm

Mmm season ticket increases to pay the catering staff better wages ,now thats a belter ☹️
Costastag
Subs Bench
Subs Bench
 
Posts: 356
Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:47 am

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby gazza1988 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:30 pm

Remember £9.50 is minimum for people aged 23+. Aged 21-22 is £9.18. 18-20 is £6.83. Under 18 and apprentices is £4.81. As a slight aside to that. If you get on an apprenticeship at any age you can legally be paid £4.81 for the first year, after that it's whatever age bracket you fall under.
post meanings:
I know what I'm doing
Just guessing
You're an idiot and I'm poking you with a stick
User avatar
gazza1988
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 14101
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:23 pm
Location: Beeston, Nottingham

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby Amber Andy » Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:33 pm

HitchcocksShins wrote:Love it when "on-site parking" is part of the benefits of a job. Proper scraping that barrel.
No mention of if it's free or not, though
When I worked in the NHS I had to pay to park in the hospital car park. I think they still do.
Amber Andy
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 8722
Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:38 am

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby part time pete » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:05 pm

The living wage dot org folk suggest the minimum wage should be £10.90 an hour and all good employers should be paying this rate.
Those accustomed to privilege may feel that equality is oppression.
part time pete
Prediction League Manager
 
Posts: 9141
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:39 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby gazza1988 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:25 pm

part time pete wrote:The living wage dot org folk suggest the minimum wage should be £10.90 an hour and all good employers should be paying this rate.


Unfortunately, that's not the legal living wage.

Form April 2023 the rates change again. 33+ £10.42. But that living wage you quote will also go up.

So expect yet more price increases next year. Just to save a company's profit margin.
post meanings:
I know what I'm doing
Just guessing
You're an idiot and I'm poking you with a stick
User avatar
gazza1988
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 14101
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:23 pm
Location: Beeston, Nottingham

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby Marky Mark » Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:12 pm

As a general rule, if your business model relies on you not paying your staff enough to live on then it's not much of one.
"Football is a game of opinions, and very little knowledge"
User avatar
Marky Mark
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 4946
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:48 pm
Location: New Brighton

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby arsene wengers coat » Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:28 pm

Marky Mark wrote:As a general rule, if your business model relies on you not paying your staff enough to live on then it's not much of one.


Totally agree. This flipping club man.

Just let 'minimum wage' sink in for a moment. They are offering the Lowest they legally can get away with. It should be double this because the hours are so short.

This sort of thing really annoys me.

'community club' my back side. It's exploitative.
You've got to go there and come back, to know where you've been.
User avatar
arsene wengers coat
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 7159
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:03 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby NEStag » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:46 pm

I assume those working have to get to the ground (unpaid time and travel costs) work for 5 hours and then get home again. On a Saturday for say seven hours time take for what sounds like could be 24 pounds 5 pence.

In answer to a comment above yes I think I’d be willing to pay slightly more for a season ticket or a pie or a pint so people can be paid properly.
NEStag
Subs Bench
Subs Bench
 
Posts: 543
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:53 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby Jamie » Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:41 am

Clearly jobs aimed at youngsters, students etc. Like all lower end catering / serving roles. When I was 16/17/18 and at WNC, at times I had 3 part time jobs, equally as glamorous as this for the going wage at the time which was bugger all. It got me beer and fag money, petrol in my car, paid for away trips and gave me some income while 'studying' and living at home.

If there are better options and the club is paying below market value,, they won't fill the roles, simple as that. It's supply and demand. It's ridiculous to mock the club for paying the national minimum wage when a solid percentage of jobs are min wage and where without the minimum wage many employers would pay less. Living wage... what the hell is a living wage for a 16 Yr old 6th former anyway?

If you do a full time (40 hr/pw) job on minimum wage, its a smidge under 20k a year!!! Not many years ago it was a good chunk less.

Some very judgy comments in this thread from people who have no doubt themselves had to do what it took to get some income at times. This is clearly a part time, casual job for a bit of extra spends,, not a career and not a job that requires any specialist skills.

Before I could drive, I got lifts, relied on my parents, the bus etc to get to part time jobs. I'd quite happily drive my kids to do a crap part time job at 16 so they could earn some money, get work and life skills and some independence.

It's not exploitative it's economics, business and casual part time labour. Its always been like this and to suddenly expect MTFC to pay double, as one said, £38k pa pro rata no less, to serve at a food till is mental.

The sentiment in this post is indicative of the county at the moment. Ridiculously judgmental, unrealistic demands and a 'im better than that' attudue... if you can do better, great, but if £20k a year, pro rata, isn't enough to pass pies over a counter then the country really is done for.
Jamie
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 5226
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:42 am
Location: Mansfield

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:59 am

Except Jamie, the youngsters aren’t being paid £20,000 per annum. 40 hours per week, 52 weeks per year equates to £10,004.80. So approximately 50% of the minimum wage based on age alone and absolutely nothing to do with skill level or training.

You were fortunate to have parents willing to subsidise you and drive you to part time jobs but unfortunately not everyone is that blessed.

As you correctly say, recruitment will depend on working conditions and that’s probably why these jobs are always available.

I was also grateful for a Saturday job when I was 14/15 years old but that doesn’t mean I wasn’t exploited nor does it mean that practice should continue into the future for the youth of tomorrow. My wages subsidised a household struggling on low wages instead of providing extra luxuries for me. Unskilled jobs should carry the same minimum wage irrespective of age and anything less is exploiting youth. That way younger workers wouldn’t be replaced when their age dictates a wage rise and they become surplus to requirements.

And to all those wondering where the thread is going, my sincere apologies and let’s get back to football.
Hello! Hello! We are the North Stand Boys.
Sandy Pate Best Stag
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 6168
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:37 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby stag324 » Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:59 am

Jamie wrote:Clearly jobs aimed at youngsters, students etc. Like all lower end catering / serving roles. When I was 16/17/18 and at WNC, at times I had 3 part time jobs, equally as glamorous as this for the going wage at the time which was bugger all. It got me beer and fag money, petrol in my car, paid for away trips and gave me some income while 'studying' and living at home.

If there are better options and the club is paying below market value,, they won't fill the roles, simple as that. It's supply and demand. It's ridiculous to mock the club for paying the national minimum wage when a solid percentage of jobs are min wage and where without the minimum wage many employers would pay less. Living wage... what the hell is a living wage for a 16 Yr old 6th former anyway?

If you do a full time (40 hr/pw) job on minimum wage, its a smidge under 20k a year!!! Not many years ago it was a good chunk less.

Some very judgy comments in this thread from people who have no doubt themselves had to do what it took to get some income at times. This is clearly a part time, casual job for a bit of extra spends,, not a career and not a job that requires any specialist skills.

Before I could drive, I got lifts, relied on my parents, the bus etc to get to part time jobs. I'd quite happily drive my kids to do a crap part time job at 16 so they could earn some money, get work and life skills and some independence.

It's not exploitative it's economics, business and casual part time labour. Its always been like this and to suddenly expect MTFC to pay double, as one said, £38k pa pro rata no less, to serve at a food till is mental.

The sentiment in this post is indicative of the county at the moment. Ridiculously judgmental, unrealistic demands and a 'im better than that' attudue... if you can do better, great, but if £20k a year, pro rata, isn't enough to pass pies over a counter then the country really is done for.



Some very sweeping, condescending & patronising comments in this post Jamie
stag324
First Team
First Team
 
Posts: 983
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:37 am

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby SeanieStag » Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:13 am

Zero hours contracts need to go and Stags shouldn't be using them, they're exploitative. The low wages are scandalous. Just because it's legal to pay that low an amount doesn't make it morally right. £10 an hour should be the minimum for everyone. Stags have run lots of adverts asking for staff this year so there's obviously a high turnover and you have to ask why that is.
SeanieStag
Reserve Team
Reserve Team
 
Posts: 210
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:38 am

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby Dan » Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:00 pm

It’s not just Stags who are doing it it’s across the board. Places such as Primark and Next do it too.
Dan
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 10711
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:26 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby geoffhill » Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:18 pm

If you don't want the job then no need to apply.l think some young people like the fact they are able to mix with like minded people and earn a few quid as well.
geoffhill
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 2588
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:21 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby SeanieStag » Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:47 pm

geoffhill wrote:If you don't want the job then no need to apply.l think some young people like the fact they are able to mix with like minded people and earn a few quid as well.


I think they'd prefer to earn enough to save up for a house or car, but it's not possible on those wages. I don't know what matches you've been watching but whenever I've been I've seen a wide variety of ages in the various roles. It's not just about giving kids an opportunity, lots of people rely on these jobs to pay the bills and, frankly, they're not paid enough.
SeanieStag
Reserve Team
Reserve Team
 
Posts: 210
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:38 am

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby FarnieStag » Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:40 pm

For goodness sake, Jamie and Geoff are both spot on. It's not a career role, it's a bit of extra spends. Nobody is being forced to do it.
If small businesses had to pay £20 ph as some on here seem to want then there would be very few businesses around. You'd have to kiss goodbye to every pub, butcher, Baker and small independent shop.
FarnieStag
Reserve Team
Reserve Team
 
Posts: 233
Joined: Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:15 pm

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby Marky Mark » Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:10 pm

FarnieStag wrote:For goodness sake, Jamie and Geoff are both spot on. It's not a career role, it's a bit of extra spends. Nobody is being forced to do it.
If small businesses had to pay £20 ph as some on here seem to want then there would be very few businesses around. You'd have to kiss goodbye to every pub, butcher, Baker and small independent shop.


That's the fundamental problem, if you can't make your business work without paying your staff the minimum that the law allows you to (less than something that is literally called 'the living wage'), then they're essentially subsidising it for you, so is it you that's making your business work, or are they in fact bailing your business out? I get the Saturday jobs/students aspect, but as an adult if you work 40 hours a week then the very minimum it should allow you to do is not to have to scrimp, save, visit food banks (or food pantries as the Tories have now tried to rebrand them as) or get your wages topped up by tax credits. That's what's happening right now in a whole raft of businesses and sectors, both public and private.
"Football is a game of opinions, and very little knowledge"
User avatar
Marky Mark
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 4946
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:48 pm
Location: New Brighton

Re: Jobs at Stags

Postby Spiritater » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:06 am

FarnieStag wrote:For goodness sake, Jamie and Geoff are both spot on. It's not a career role, it's a bit of extra spends. Nobody is being forced to do it.
If small businesses had to pay £20 ph as some on here seem to want then there would be very few businesses around. You'd have to kiss goodbye to every pub, butcher, Baker and small independent shop.

And buses, coaches.
Theirs not to reason why
Theirs but to do and die
Into the valley of Death
Rode the Six Hundred
Spiritater
Manager
Manager
 
Posts: 24725
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:18 pm
Location: Somewhere fluffy.

Next

Return to Stagsnet Main Discussion Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: StanstedStag and 26 guests