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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Dan » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:04 pm

Marky Mark wrote:The XG stat is totally irrelevant


Couldn't agree more!
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Re: Stats Thread 22/23

Postby gazza1988 » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:55 am

halifaxstag wrote:
Rob wrote:
part time pete wrote:Noticed this on a web site

Who Has The Best xGA?

Mansfield Town FC has the best xGA (Expected Goals Against) in the EFL League Two with just 0.89 goals expected against them per game. Arguably, this stat could suggest they have the best defence in this competition.

Looks like we don’t need an extra centre half.


Alternatively it shows what utterly meaningless bs these stas are :lol:

It depends hoe you want to interpret the stats. If we are only expecting to concede less than a goal a game but concede 1.5 on average from less than 4 shots on target then there is a problem with our team defending/ style of play. You then use other analysis and also experience of the game to work out the problems and therefore a solution.


It depends how it's all interpreted. It suggests we concede 60% more goals than we should.

0.89 is 41 goals conceded over a season which is champions form (on goals against, hence we are top of that particular league) but we are actually conceding 1.5 which is 69 over a season. That's a huge 28-goal gap. It would point to a poor goalkeeper or a makeshift defence or not enough overall quality in the first team defence or we've just had bad luck in these early games.

We are scoring 1.7 goals a game which is 78 goals over a season. This is champions goalscoring.

Looking back through the leagues. Closest I can see of a team getting promoted hith a similar c goals conceded/scored was Bury in 18/19 (incidentally that season we only conceded 41 goals) where they scored 82 and conceded 56.

I still maintain we need stronger depth in defence. Certainly on the left. Cartainly if we are proceeding with a back 3.

This is based on actual goals scored, our xG is 9 over 7 games which averages at 1.2 a game which is an xG of 59 goals over a season.

So from the xG stats we are scoring more than we should and conceding more than we should. But that pretty much seems true for everyone in the league so you have a good case for Dan and others being correct and xG is a load of pap.

It is early days though with only 15% of the season gone.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Stag95 » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:36 am

We’re up to 11.3 xG after 7 games now, with Leyton Orient are second with 9.5. We’ve got the 3rd highest average possession with 56.5%, and the highest amount of big chances missed with 14 (basically 2 per game).

We’ve also got the most fouls and the most interceptions in the league, which just shows we’re a pressing side.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Stag95 » Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:48 am



We’re pretty much the best performers in all of these. I’m preparing to be shouted at for posting this
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Re: Stats Thread 22/23

Postby broomo » Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:17 am

gazza1988 wrote:
halifaxstag wrote:
Rob wrote:
part time pete wrote:Noticed this on a web site

Who Has The Best xGA?

Mansfield Town FC has the best xGA (Expected Goals Against) in the EFL League Two with just 0.89 goals expected against them per game. Arguably, this stat could suggest they have the best defence in this competition.

Looks like we don’t need an extra centre half.


Alternatively it shows what utterly meaningless bs these stas are :lol:

It depends hoe you want to interpret the stats. If we are only expecting to concede less than a goal a game but concede 1.5 on average from less than 4 shots on target then there is a problem with our team defending/ style of play. You then use other analysis and also experience of the game to work out the problems and therefore a solution.


It depends how it's all interpreted. It suggests we concede 60% more goals than we should.

0.89 is 41 goals conceded over a season which is champions form (on goals against, hence we are top of that particular league) but we are actually conceding 1.5 which is 69 over a season. That's a huge 28-goal gap. It would point to a poor goalkeeper or a makeshift defence or not enough overall quality in the first team defence or we've just had bad luck in these early games.

We are scoring 1.7 goals a game which is 78 goals over a season. This is champions goalscoring.

Looking back through the leagues. Closest I can see of a team getting promoted hith a similar c goals conceded/scored was Bury in 18/19 (incidentally that season we only conceded 41 goals) where they scored 82 and conceded 56.

I still maintain we need stronger depth in defence. Certainly on the left. Cartainly if we are proceeding with a back 3.

This is based on actual goals scored, our xG is 9 over 7 games which averages at 1.2 a game which is an xG of 59 goals over a season.

So from the xG stats we are scoring more than we should and conceding more than we should. But that pretty much seems true for everyone in the league so you have a good case for Dan and others being correct and xG is a load of pap.

It is early days though with only 15% of the season gone.


We're actually conceding 1.3 goals a game.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Dan » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:12 am

No we’re not because that’s impossible ;)
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby broomo » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:19 am

Dan wrote:No we’re not because that’s impossible ;)


9 divided by 7 is impossible?
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:34 am

broomo wrote:
Dan wrote:No we’re not because that’s impossible ;)


9 divided by 7 is impossible?


Whoosh. I think he means you can’t concede 1.3 goals in a single game :D

It’s a Mansfield sense of humour thing Broomo and isn’t meant as a criticism. Stick with us long enough and you’ll get used to it. To avoid the pitfalls you have to be pedantic with statements and in this case add the words ‘an average of’ in your statement of facts.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Dan » Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:42 am

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:
broomo wrote:
Dan wrote:No we’re not because that’s impossible ;)


9 divided by 7 is impossible?


Whoosh. I think he means you can’t concede 1.3 goals in a single game :D

It’s a Mansfield sense of humour thing Broomo and isn’t meant as a criticism. Stick with us long enough and you’ll get used to it. To avoid the pitfalls you have to be pedantic with statements and in this case add the words ‘an average of’ in your statement of facts.


Spot on Sandy.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby gazza1988 » Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:09 pm

My bad. I lazily took halifaxstag number and went with it rather than checking it.

This graphs we are top on. I like how "defensive effectiveness" is in the "avoiding the issue" section. Thought that was quite funny. :lol: still in the "bottom 50%" line as well.

Edit: we are top 2% and top 5% for attacking = new striker needed. Bottom 50% in the defensive graph = no defenders needed.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Stag95 » Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:01 am

Richie Wellens manager of the month, and Sam Hoskins player of the month.

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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby bobbystagsfan » Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:44 am

It will go sour for Wellens at some point, it usually does :lol:
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Stag95 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:59 pm

For those that are interested in this sort of thing

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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Stag95 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:04 pm



Excited to see how much everyone hates this.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Stag95 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:10 am

Leyton Orient with the best start in the league since…us

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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby part time pete » Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:09 pm

Stag95 wrote:Leyton Orient with the best start in the league since…us




And we still didn’t get promoted, losing away on last day to Cambridge.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:15 am

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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:59 pm

Mansfield are 2nd in the xG League Table

Expected Goals (P12 W9 D1 L2 Points 28, Position: 2nd )
Salford City 0.9 Mansfield Town 1.6 (HT: 0.45-0.3) Win
Mansfield Town 1.8 Tranmere Rovers 0.6 (HT: 0.7-0.2) Win
Leyton Orient 1.0 Mansfield Town 2.1 (HT: 0.5-1.5) Win
Mansfield Town 2.6 AFC Wimbledon 0.6 (HT: 1.6-0.6) Win
Mansfield Town 1.7 Stockport County 0.6 (HT: 0.5-0.45) Win
Sutton United 1.1 Mansfield Town 0.7 (HT: 0.05-0.2) Loss
Doncaster Rovers 1.4 Mansfield Town 2.3 (HT: 1.2-1.1) Win
Gillingham 0.4 Mansfield Town 2.6 (HT: 0.2-2.2) Win
Mansfield Town 0.9 Carlisle United 0.9 (HT: 0.4-0.6) Draw
Crewe Alexandra 1.6 Mansfield Town 0.9 (HT: 0-5-0.25) Loss
Mansfield Town 2.1 Hartlepool United 0.6 (HT: 0.8-0.25) Win
Barrow 0.6 Mansfield Town 1.5 (HT: 0-2-0.4) Win


Mansfield Possession %
Salford City (Away) 61.5%
Tranmere Rovers (Home) 56.2%
Leyton Orient (Away) 42.5%
AFC Wimbledon (Home) 69.7%
Stockport County (Home) 52.5%
Sutton United (Away) 60.1%
Doncaster Rovers (Away) 53.4%
Carlisle United (Home) 61.1%
Gillingham (Away) 55.5%
Crewe Alexandra (Away) 54.7%
Hartlepool United (Home) 61.3%
Barrow (Away) 45.4%
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Stag95 » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:41 am

In terms of xG we have the best attack AND the best defence. Even if you hate xG it shows we’re doing something right.

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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Stag95 » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:01 am

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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:09 pm

Mansfield are 3rd in the xG table under performing by 7 points

Expected Goals (P18 W12 D1 L5 Points 37, Position: 3rd )
Salford City 0.9 Mansfield Town 1.6 (HT: 0.45-0.3) Win
Mansfield Town 1.8 Tranmere Rovers 0.6 (HT: 0.7-0.2) Win
Leyton Orient 1.0 Mansfield Town 2.1 (HT: 0.5-1.5) Win
Mansfield Town 2.6 AFC Wimbledon 0.6 (HT: 1.6-0.6) Win
Mansfield Town 1.7 Stockport County 0.6 (HT: 0.5-0.45) Win
Sutton United 1.1 Mansfield Town 0.7 (HT: 0.05-0.2) Loss
Doncaster Rovers 1.4 Mansfield Town 2.3 (HT: 1.2-1.1) Win
Gillingham 0.4 Mansfield Town 2.6 (HT: 0.2-2.2) Win
Mansfield Town 0.9 Carlisle United 0.9 (HT: 0.4-0.6) Draw
Crewe Alexandra 1.6 Mansfield Town 0.9 (HT: 0-5-0.25) Loss
Mansfield Town 2.1 Hartlepool United 0.6 (HT: 0.8-0.25) Win
Barrow 0.6 Mansfield Town 1.5 (HT: 0-2-0.4) Win
Mansfield Town 1.2 Walsall 0.4 (HT: 0.5-0.25) Win
Crawley Town 1.2 Mansfield Town 1.7 (HT: 0.7-1.2) Win
Mansfield Town 0.8 Newport County 1.7 (HT: 0.45-0.45) Loss
Mansfield Town 2.1 Swindon Town 3.0 (HT: 1.1-1.1) Loss
Mansfield Town 1.1 Bradford City 1.4 (HT: 0.0-0.9) Loss
Rochdale 0.3 Mansfield Town 1.4 (HT: 0.2-1.1) Win

Mansfield Possession %
Salford City (Away) 61.5%
Tranmere Rovers (Home) 56.2%
Leyton Orient (Away) 42.5%
AFC Wimbledon (Home) 69.7%
Stockport County (Home) 52.5%
Sutton United (Away) 60.1%
Doncaster Rovers (Away) 53.4%
Carlisle United (Home) 61.1%
Gillingham (Away) 55.5%
Crewe Alexandra (Away) 54.7%
Hartlepool United (Home) 61.3%
Barrow (Away) 45.4%
Walsall (Home) 63.2%
Crawley Town (Away) 58.7%
Newport County (Home) 55.1%
Swindon Town (Home) 36.6%
Bradford City (Home) 63.1%
Rochdale (Away) 52.4%
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby pemill » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:00 pm

Stag95 wrote:

Unsurprisingly we’re right up there.


Imagine what it could be if we were able to cross a ball beyond the first defender
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby bobbystagsfan » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:06 pm

pemill wrote:
Stag95 wrote:

Unsurprisingly we’re right up there.


Imagine what it could be if we were able to cross a ball beyond the first defender



Maris wins us the game Vs Rochdale?


Beating Crewe in the last minute from a Hawkins header?
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby MTFCMusings » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:06 pm

pemill wrote:
Stag95 wrote:

Unsurprisingly we’re right up there.


Imagine what it could be if we were able to cross a ball beyond the first defender


We actually produce the most accurate crosses per game on L2. 6.2 per game.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:51 pm

Total League Points From Starts
Christy Pym 33
George Maris 30
George Lapslie 30
Stephen McLaughlin 29
Riley Harbottle 29
Oli Hawkins 27
Ollie Clarke 27
Lucas Akins 24
Stephen Quinn 22
Elliott Hewitt 21
Jordan Bowery 19
Anthony Hartigan 15
James Perch 13
Hiram Boateng 10
Kellan Gordon 10
Rhys Oates 9
John Joe O'Toole 9
Will Swan 6
Kieran Wallace 4

Points Per Start
Ollie Clarke 2.03
Stephen McLaughlin 1.98
Jordan Bowery 1.9
George Maris 1.88
Riley Harbottle 1.81
Oli Hawkins 1.8
Rhys Oates 1.8
George Lapslie 1.76
Lucas Akins 1.71
Stephen Quinn 1.69
Christy Pym 1.65
James Perch 1.63
Elliott Hewitt 1.62
Kellan Gordon 1.43
Anthony Hartigan 1.36
Kieran Wallace 1.33
John Joe O'Toole 1.13
Hiram Boateng 1.11
Will Swan 0.75

Win Rate
Ollie Clarke 61.5
Stephen McLaughlin 60
Rhys Oates 60
Jordan Bowery 60
George Maris 56.3
Riley Harbottle 56.3
Stephen Quinn 53.85
Oli Hawkins 53.3
George Lapslie 52.9
Lucas Akins 50
Christy Pym 50
James Perch 50
Elliott Hewitt 46.2
Kellan Gordon 42.9
John Joe O'Toole 37.5
Anthony Hartigan 36.4
Kieran Wallace 33.3
Hiram Boateng 33.3
Will Swan 25
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