Bishop street stand

[STAGS FOR LIFE]

Looking at who we could be playing if we go up into league 1 next season the bishop st must be done.

Must factor in any cup runs ??

from the Championship coming down it is looking like it could be

Derby
Peterborough
Barnsley

Division 1

Sky Bet League One 2021/22
# Team Pl W D L F A GD Pts Last 6
1 Rotherham United 33 22 6 5 60 19 41 72
2 Wigan Athletic 31 20 6 5 56 29 27 66
3 Milton Keynes Dons 34 18 9 7 55 35 20 63
4 Oxford United 34 17 8 9 61 41 20 59
5 Plymouth Argyle 32 16 8 8 54 38 16 56
6 Sunderland 34 16 8 10 58 47 11 56
7 Wycombe Wanderers 33 15 10 8 53 43 10 55
8 Sheffield Wednesday 32 15 10 7 45 35 10 55
9 Ipswich Town 34 14 10 10 52 38 14 52
10 Bolton Wanderers 34 15 6 13 55 45 10 51
11 Portsmouth 31 13 8 10 40 32 8 47
12 Cambridge United 33 11 11 11 44 45 -1 44
13 Burton Albion 34 12 8 14 42 45 -3 44
14 Accrington Stanley 33 12 7 14 41 51 -10 43
15 Cheltenham Town 33 9 14 10 43 54 -11 41
16 Charlton Athletic 33 11 6 16 41 45 -4 39
17 Lincoln City 32 9 8 15 37 44 -7 35
18 Shrewsbury Town 33 8 10 15 29 35 -6 34
19 Fleetwood Town 31 7 11 13 44 53 -9 32
20 AFC Wimbledon 33 6 14 13 37 51 -14 32
21 Morecambe 33 7 9 17 43 63 -20 30
22 Doncaster Rovers 35 8 4 23 26 66 -40 28
23 Gillingham 34 5 12 17 26 55 -29 27
24 Crewe Alexandra 33 5 7 21 26 59 -33 22

[bear 73]

Maybe not this year but we are going up and yes without cup games there will be at least 12 games with a sell out away end,
If it would take 2 year to build a stand on Bishop Street maybe in June the first phase could be started.
Hopefully we will be in the play offs in May

[Dan]

On the flip side we could stay down and have 50 fans from Crewe, Gillingham, AFC Wimbledon, morecambe or Fleetwood thus not needing it. Although if you could put them somewhere else and give us the North Stand that would be nice!

[zod]

On the flip side we could stay down and have 50 fans from Crewe, Gillingham, AFC Wimbledon, Morecambe or Fleetwood thus not needing it. Although if you could put them somewhere else and give us the North Stand that would be nice!

Wren Kitchens has that big screen on the front. They could park the bus at the side of it and watch the game on that.

[Sedgwick]

A very quick photoshop using that new stand at Accrington as an example. (Image is low res so it is poor quality, but you get the idea


It's not embedded and I can't delete this message so I'll link to it
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RfRngw ... sp=sharing

Similar to What I was getting at with the above examples but obviously smaller because of the room, probably a lot less rows but one mart uniform stand. Apparently some would rather have what's there now though

[STAGS FOR LIFE]

https://www.google.com/search?q=low++fo ... GJAtFf-sCM

[SeanieStag]

I'd just be happy to convert it into a safe standing zone. The concrete still appears to be good as they erected the new scoreboard on it. I don't care about a roof, having it extend along the whole side of the pitch or having it accommodate thousands. Just so long as the rusty corrugated steel and wall of advertising is gone.

[STAGS FOR LIFE]

I'd just be happy to convert it into a safe standing zone. The concrete still appears to be good as they erected the new scoreboard on it. I don't care about a roof, having it extend along the whole side of the pitch or having it accommodate thousands. Just so long as the rusty corrugated steel and wall of advertising is gone.

I think i recall JR saying that is what is going to be done ??

Hello SeanieStag see it is your first post , Welcome

[SeanieStag]

Thanks for the warn welcome.

[STAGS FOR LIFE]

Thanks for the warn welcome.

Just found this on another thread

John Radford, programme notes (Harrogate game), Sat 4 Sep 2021

"It was the first visit that Carolyn and I have made to the Envirovent Stadium (Harrogate, on Tuesday) and our impression of the ground reinvigorated a previous consideration about safe-standing at football stadia. Following our first-hand experience of Harrogate's ground on Tuesday, we are exploring the possibility of a safe-standing terrace on the Bishop Street side of the ground. This would be more cost-effective than the previously intended new tier stand and could aid an already-excellent atmosphere inside One Call Stadium. We know there is a desire amongst a proportion of our fanbase for a standing area and this is something we'll be looking into over the course of the season. We'll update you with our findings when appropriate to do so."

[Showaddywaddy]

If I remember correctly (and there’s every chance that I don’t) didn’t the stand first suffer damage during the games against Leeds Utd in 94. I seem to recall that is was following that game that some of the rows were initially blocked off.

If we do go up then we can really do with additional capacity for some of the bigger clubs in League One. Regardless of who gets promotion from that division there will still be a healthy number of clubs that would probably bring in excess of 2500.

[arsene wengers coat]

We really need to get this done. seating, standing, whatever - just to improve the look and uplift capacity.

Its priority #2, only knocked off top spot by promotion to League 1.

My company are working closely with Blackpool FC and Blackpool Council as part of a joint venture to redevelop part of the stadium and town as part of a regeneration scheme. This looks far simpler and I'm sure we could improve it. I do wish I had an opportunity to work with the club on this even if it was just to have the opportunity to pitch a methodology and high-level strategy to MTFC.

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/spor ... um-3142632

[Cockney Stag]

Correct me if I'm wrong. But doesn't "safe standing" require seats to be fitted and a strict 1:1 seat to standing ratio for tickets?

[SeanieStag]

Yeah, that's correct. It's mainly a metal rail with some flimsy plastic seats attached that fold up to line flush with the rail.

[stag324]

With our long term goal of championship football we should be looking to purchase some of the houses on Bishop St and making another 3-4000 capacity stand with corporate hospitality and boxes.
Even promotion to league 1 will add an average of 1500 fans weekly let alone the big money earnings from corporate facilities.

We have sold out this season on corporate, I wonder how much more we could have sold.

Rather than settle for second best I’d go all out

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

I don’t think it would be as simple as buying a few houses and planning would be a big problem.

Could planners give permission for a noisy stand to be erected only a few yards from houses that are still occupied? What about the highway and utilities that come all the way to the back of the current stand? The road would have to be purchased and I doubt it would be for sale.

I can’t see permission being granted until the whole area is flattened and redeveloped which could be a few years off yet. Covered safe standing on the current footprint is probably the best that could be hoped for at this stage.

[gazza1988]

Do we know what the reason was for it to be condemned?

Can't we just dismantle what is there and then go from there another season?

Get it ready to be built on. Surely nothing over there is better than what is there currently. Get something temporary over there to move the camera more central to the pitch.

That way when we do decide to do something, we are ready to start and only have to move a couple of portakabins to make a start.

[Sedgwick]

Correct me if I'm wrong. But doesn't "safe standing" require seats to be fitted and a strict 1:1 seat to standing ratio for tickets?

Yeah its no different to all seater really... just with the option to stand and the seats having the rail to lean on, few fans at Celtic got angry/confused when they tried to pile into one row to stand together but that goes against the whole idea of it being safe

[West Ham 1969]

Do we know what the reason was for it to be condemned?

Can't we just dismantle what is there and then go from there another season?

Get it ready to be built on. Surely nothing over there is better than what is there currently. Get something temporary over there to move the camera more central to the pitch.

That way when we do decide to do something, we are ready to start and only have to move a couple of portakabins to make a start.

I was in the Bish for that Leeds game (good memories of O’Neal Donaldson) and as I remember as it was the first time it had been at full capacity for ages, the timber frame at the back had sunk 8 inches. Following that it was panelled off so only the front half could be used before it was taken out of use altogether. Could be wrong, but that’s as I remember it.

[Stag95]

Just FYI planning in Nottingham City is taking almost a year. Nottinghamshire isn’t as bad but is getting worse by the week. So this will take longer than people think, unless it gets pushed to the front of the pile with the Radford’s friends with Ben Bradley.

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

Just FYI planning in Nottingham City is taking almost a year. Nottinghamshire isn’t as bad but is getting worse by the week. So this will take longer than people think, unless it gets pushed to the front of the pile with the Radford’s friends with Ben Bradley.

Surely Mansfield District Council would be the planning authority with NCC commenting. I suppose the SAG would also have an input.

[Dan]

Correct me if I'm wrong. But doesn't "safe standing" require seats to be fitted and a strict 1:1 seat to standing ratio for tickets?

Yeah its no different to all seater really... just with the option to stand and the seats having the rail to lean on, few fans at Celtic got angry/confused when they tried to pile into one row to stand together but that goes against the whole idea of it being safe

Doesn’t surprise me with that lot. #thick

[Cockney Stag]

I don’t think it would be as simple as buying a few houses and planning would be a big problem.

Could planners give permission for a noisy stand to be erected only a few yards from houses that are still occupied? What about the highway and utilities that come all the way to the back of the current stand? The road would have to be purchased and I doubt it would be for sale.

I can’t see permission being granted until the whole area is flattened and redeveloped which could be a few years off yet. Covered safe standing on the current footprint is probably the best that could be hoped for at this stage.

Housing developer opportunity?

Rehouse existing tenants into new apartments, Mansfield get new stand, area gets a regeneration effect?

Wimbledon have done it.

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

I don’t think it would be as simple as buying a few houses and planning would be a big problem.

Could planners give permission for a noisy stand to be erected only a few yards from houses that are still occupied? What about the highway and utilities that come all the way to the back of the current stand? The road would have to be purchased and I doubt it would be for sale.

I can’t see permission being granted until the whole area is flattened and redeveloped which could be a few years off yet. Covered safe standing on the current footprint is probably the best that could be hoped for at this stage.

Housing developer opportunity?

Rehouse existing tenants into new apartments, Mansfield get new stand, area gets a regeneration effect?

Wimbledon have done it.

Possible but I think you would need to amend the district plan and get a compulsory purchase order to get it off the ground. If I were a landlord with guaranteed income I don’t think I would be keen to sell and thus stop the income stream. You would also need housing for the tenants while the development takes place.

[Cockney Stag]

Possible but I think you would need to amend the district plan and get a compulsory purchase order to get it off the ground. If I were a landlord with guaranteed income I don’t think I would be keen to sell and thus stop the income stream. You would also need housing for the tenants while the development takes place.

I'm only slightly familiar as I live in an area that was previously quite deprived and the local council came up with a similar scheme with the developer Barratts for a CPO.

Leaseholders were screwed though.