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by Sneag » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:11 pm
Not going down well with some folk on Faceache.
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by georgefostersbeard » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:40 pm
I thought the founder's comments were very well judged
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by Dan » Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:18 pm
Sneag wrote:Not going down well with some folk on Faceache.
Shock!
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by Amberheart » Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:38 pm
georgefostersbeard wrote:Interview this afternoon on Radio Nottingham with Terry who has set up Proud Stags for LGBTQ+ and allies Stags fans
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0bgcgz9 Scroll to 53 minutes 23 seconds
That’s brilliant news well done Terry .
Notts have had one for years
KTF !
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by Dan » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:52 pm
Wow there are some cretins living in the past on Facebook isn’t there?! This is what I replied to a bloke who asked why this group is necessary.
Why is anything necessary? There’s loads of reasons groups like this are necessary. I contacted the club a while back about setting one of these up because I know the guys who do it from Notts and Forest and they get lots of good publicity from it and I felt like we were the odd one out not having one. I’m glad someone has done it and I’m glad it’s been done by someone who understands the impact negative people have on gay, lesbian, bisexual etc people because I’m none of those. It’s why clubs have rainbow laces and flag days, to try and get it out there that whatever your choices are in the world we’re all in it as one. But when you’re at a match and you hear chants like “Chelsea rent boy” and things like that it’s not right or ok and needs stamping out of the game. Hence the need for groups like this to raise awareness. Same as Kick It Out. Chanting racial abuse is not ok and again that’s why these groups are out there. Why do you think footballers don’t come out as gay? That’s why these groups exist, to make people more aware of their actions and what can be done to improve the enjoyment of watching a live match for EVERYONE. Also some people really struggle with their sexuality and it can lead to depression or even suicide. If they know that there are other people out there who are the “same” as them they can confide in them too. So who knows, a group like this could actually save a life.
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by Stag95 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:16 am
The fact that someone asked why this was necessary is the exact reason as to why it’s necessary.
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by Dan » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:26 am
Stag95 wrote:The fact that someone asked why this was necessary is the exact reason as to why it’s necessary.
Exactly!
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by georgefostersbeard » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:49 am
Has the post been deleted now or is me losing my battle with Facebook algorithms?
It is, a pity because I thought Terry had answered the points so well especially the bloke who just told him F off
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by Sneag » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:29 am
georgefostersbeard wrote:Has the post been deleted now or is me losing my battle with Facebook algorithms?
It is, a pity because I thought Terry had answered the points so well especially the bloke who just told him F off
Still on the official FB page, but I think it's gone from the fsns group.
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by georgefostersbeard » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:36 am
Sneag wrote:georgefostersbeard wrote:Has the post been deleted now or is me losing my battle with Facebook algorithms?
It is, a pity because I thought Terry had answered the points so well especially the bloke who just told him F off
Still on the official FB page, but I think it's gone from the fsns group.
Yes, meant from the fans group. It is sad if it has been removed as Terry dealt so well with the range of comments from those saddened by what they saw a false division of fans through to the clearly abusive. I thought Terry's responses were so well constructed
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by Dan » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:38 am
I didn’t see it on the fans page. Which group was it?
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by stagsfan6493 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:40 am
georgefostersbeard wrote:Sneag wrote:georgefostersbeard wrote:Has the post been deleted now or is me losing my battle with Facebook algorithms?
It is, a pity because I thought Terry had answered the points so well especially the bloke who just told him F off
Still on the official FB page, but I think it's gone from the fsns group.
Yes, meant from the fans group. It is sad if it has been removed as Terry dealt so well with the range of comments from those saddened by what they saw a false division of fans through to the clearly abusive. I thought Terry's responses were so well constructed
It is embarrassing to be a stags fan with some of the views.
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by yorkshire stag » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:51 am
educating some just takes longer, that’s what Mrs Yorkshire tells me anyway
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by Sneag » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:05 am
Dan wrote:I didn’t see it on the fans page. Which group was it?
Sorry Dan I can't remember, but it had gone from my notifications this morning.
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by Birminghamstag10 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:23 am
An excellent initiative. Inclusivity is the key to sustainability in anything, and especially so for lower league football clubs like us. Well done to the founder and I hope it thrives.
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by bobbystagsfan » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:25 am
Sneag wrote:Dan wrote:I didn’t see it on the fans page. Which group was it?
Sorry Dan I can't remember, but it had gone from my notifications this morning.
The group was 'Stags chat (Mansfield town FC)'
All the anti vaxxers showed up as well on the lost on the official FB page where they said you could get your jabs before the game. We do have some stupid supporters but most clubs will.
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by Marky Mark » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:31 am
I dont (think) I know Terry but this is a great initiative and he and it has my support.
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by arsene wengers coat » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:38 am
Live and let live, I say.
people should be free to make their own decisions and do what they like without fear of abuse or hindrance.
Its a shame that supporters of a certain sexual orientation feel that they cant come to the football. If you went to watch Mansfield and two men or women were holding hands in the crowd, would that make a difference to anybody?
Good on the creators of the group and the club for supporting it. No one should feel maligned or excluded from supporting MTFC.
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by zod » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:13 am
When you get complete imbeciles being banned from the club for racist chanting only a couple of months ago I think it shows we are a long way away from being perfect.
Although things have improved since I was a kid in the 80's when I heard fans racially abusing our own players for a mis-placed pass.
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by Chrisuknottm » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:21 am
bobbystagsfan wrote:Sneag wrote:Dan wrote:I didn’t see it on the fans page. Which group was it?
Sorry Dan I can't remember, but it had gone from my notifications this morning.
The group was 'Stags chat (Mansfield town FC)'
All the anti vaxxers showed up as well on the lost on the official FB page where they said you could get your jabs before the game. We do have some stupid supporters but most clubs will.
Anti vaxxers? ??? Cheap shot identifying genuine people who have their own personal views about a policy linked with suppression of information with an obnoxious message made against a legitimate group. I'm sick of that term bandied so freely.
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by Martin Shaw » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:23 am
let's not turn this into a thread about vaccination please.
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by Marky Mark » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:35 am
The Venn diagram of people who throw around words like snowflake and woke, and chunter about people getting offended with everything/lack of free speech, and the people who get offended by the words Gammon and Anti-vaxxer is a perfect circle.
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by Stag95 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:36 am
Marky Mark wrote:The Venn diagram of people who throw around words like snowflake and woke, and chunter about people getting offended with everything/lack of free speech, and the people who get offended by the words Gammon and Anti-vaxxer is a perfect circle.
Beautiful irony isn’t it.
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