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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby kevin kents tasce » Mon May 03, 2021 2:41 pm

If there is a group of young players (22 and under) who will be in and around the first team, I’d go for:

Law
Sinclair
James Clarke
Stone
Knowles
O’Driscoll

These would be in addition to 17/18 first team pro’s

I’d possibly keep Ward, but get him out on loan in the National league if possible
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby lifestags » Mon May 03, 2021 3:01 pm

BH_Stag wrote:McLaughlin also capable of filling in for Maris in that deeper role, or the Quinn role on the left. He had a few games in midfield not too long ago and looked OK. The fact McLaughlin is capable of filling in a few positions like that is why he’s been kept on.

Personally I’d loan out Charsley if we can and replace him with somebody who is more of a natural CM and can challenge for the first team more but it’s not something I’m expecting. At the minute Charsley probably represents a 7th choice CM for me behind Lapslie, Clarke, Maris, Quinn, McLaughlin & Law.

I expect us to sign better players than Charsley in the attacking areas as well so I’m not really sure where he will feature regularly. After a year of watching him I still couldn’t peg Charsley as an effective wide man in a front three or a strong enough CM.



I think that is really harsh on Charsley he has been involved in 9 goal involvements and scored 7 himself. His form dropped off since he signed his new contract but there is a good player there.
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby Conker » Mon May 03, 2021 3:17 pm

lifestags wrote:
BH_Stag wrote:McLaughlin also capable of filling in for Maris in that deeper role, or the Quinn role on the left. He had a few games in midfield not too long ago and looked OK. The fact McLaughlin is capable of filling in a few positions like that is why he’s been kept on.

Personally I’d loan out Charsley if we can and replace him with somebody who is more of a natural CM and can challenge for the first team more but it’s not something I’m expecting. At the minute Charsley probably represents a 7th choice CM for me behind Lapslie, Clarke, Maris, Quinn, McLaughlin & Law.

I expect us to sign better players than Charsley in the attacking areas as well so I’m not really sure where he will feature regularly. After a year of watching him I still couldn’t peg Charsley as an effective wide man in a front three or a strong enough CM.



I think that is really harsh on Charsley he has been involved in 9 goal involvements and scored 7 himself. His form dropped off since he signed his new contract but there is a good player there.


Agreed, he’s been massively written off by a large amount of fans and I don’t see the justification .
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby kevin kents tasce » Mon May 03, 2021 3:28 pm

I agree on Charsley. I’m not sure what folk have against him?

He’s a young player with a high work rate who gets involved in scoring and providing goals. He’s been played out of position for most of the season too!

He’s not starting ahead of Lapslie, Maris, Quinn or Clarke but is a really good option to spell them if they are unavailable
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby BH_Stag » Mon May 03, 2021 4:15 pm

Its not a case of having something against him, just looking at the situation now that’s how I see it. He had a steady start to the season and pitched in with some goals in a side that was playing really poorly that’s fair enough - can’t knock him that for that, but it’s just my opinion that he’s currently dropped well down the pecking order in midfield since Law has started to feature more heavily and the signing of Quinn. I don’t think that can be argued with really. Some may put him ahead of McLaughlin and Law in midfield.. not for me at the moment but things can change I suppose.

On the argument that he’s played out of position... what is his best position? He had his best spell on the right of a front 3 I think but even then I don’t think that’s a natural position for him and moving forwards I just think we need better in that role. I think we’d be underwhelmed if we lined up in August with Charsley starting wide right? Is he then enough of an impact player to have a big effect off the bench? I’m not sure. People may see that as harsh, but these are things that we will need to think about - we’ve finished where we have for a reason and changes do need to be made. We have a lot of competition in midfield and it’s going to be the same up top as the squad takes shape for next season.

For what it’s worth, I think he will still be with the squad due to the new deal he got and we need to try and find value in that. I don’t have an issue with him being with the squad, his energy is valuable at times. This just comes off the back of discussing whether or not we would need another midfielder bringing in and whether one can be accommodated in the squad.
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby Mansf1eld » Mon May 03, 2021 4:52 pm

I'd swap Jamie Reid tomorrow for someone like Paul McCallum. Someone who let's the ball bounce off of them vs natural finisher.
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby bear 73 » Mon May 03, 2021 5:01 pm

46 games plus cup games make a long season and a strong squad is needed, most players at the club now know expectations and it means players having a role to fill.
Charsley having made 41 appearances position right midfield or right wing could have a role to play going forward, perhaps in the Lapslie role , he cant play 50 plus games
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Mon May 03, 2021 5:09 pm

Everybody will start with a clean slate next season as always. Some players may even respond better to playing in front of crowds. Would we have dropped as many defensive clangers if the Stags fans had been screaming at defenders to clear it? It will be nice to go to live matches again and find out.
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby The One » Mon May 03, 2021 5:50 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Everybody will start with a clean slate next season as always. Some players may even respond better to playing in front of crowds. Would we have dropped as many defensive clangers if the Stags fans had been screaming at defenders to clear it? It will be nice to go to live matches again and find out.



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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Mon May 03, 2021 6:04 pm

You need to read your own rules and guidelines Mr Moderator!! :lol:
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby The One » Mon May 03, 2021 6:30 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:You need to read your own rules and guidelines Mr Moderator!! :lol:


Relevant and an open goal, even Reid would have scored it. :D
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby victor A block » Tue May 04, 2021 7:39 pm

lifestags wrote:
BH_Stag wrote:McLaughlin also capable of filling in for Maris in that deeper role, or the Quinn role on the left. He had a few games in midfield not too long ago and looked OK. The fact McLaughlin is capable of filling in a few positions like that is why he’s been kept on.

Personally I’d loan out Charsley if we can and replace him with somebody who is more of a natural CM and can challenge for the first team more but it’s not something I’m expecting. At the minute Charsley probably represents a 7th choice CM for me behind Lapslie, Clarke, Maris, Quinn, McLaughlin & Law.

I expect us to sign better players than Charsley in the attacking areas as well so I’m not really sure where he will feature regularly. After a year of watching him I still couldn’t peg Charsley as an effective wide man in a front three or a strong enough CM.



I think that is really harsh on Charsley he has been involved in 9 goal involvements and scored 7 himself. His form dropped off since he signed his new contract but there is a good player there.


Personally I think despite a drop in form he offers more than Law .

He's often been played out of position and brought on towards the end of games .

Law has also had a dip in form from when he was first introduced. Technically good but for me just too slow to play the role asked of him .

All about opinions . Looks like they will both be here but I'm not convinced either will start matches with a fully fit midfield.
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed May 05, 2021 1:08 pm

Clough reiterating again today that after 6-8 new signings, solid experienced pros rather than flashy, headline signings.
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed May 05, 2021 1:41 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Clough reiterating again today that after 6-8 new signings, solid experienced pros rather than flashy, headline signings.



Wonder how long it'll be until one of the new signings is considered

a) a crock

b)here for a last payday

c) not good enough before kicking a ball for us

d) all of the above

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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby yorkshire stag » Wed May 05, 2021 2:16 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Clough reiterating again today that after 6-8 new signings, solid experienced pros rather than flashy, headline signings.



Wonder how long it'll be until one of the new signings is considered

a) a crock

b)here for a last payday

c) not good enough before kicking a ball for us

d) all of the above

:lol:


i personally favour “legs have gone”
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby bellwhiff » Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm

One thing is for sure, there’s going to be a boo boy in there
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby Sedgwick » Wed May 05, 2021 3:13 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Clough reiterating again today that after 6-8 new signings, solid experienced pros rather than flashy, headline signings.


He makes a good point about the best players in this league being the experienced heads and something we've needed more of the last few years
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby georgefostersbeard » Wed May 05, 2021 3:44 pm

yorkshire stag wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Clough reiterating again today that after 6-8 new signings, solid experienced pros rather than flashy, headline signings.



Wonder how long it'll be until one of the new signings is considered

a) a crock

b)here for a last payday

c) not good enough before kicking a ball for us

d) all of the above

:lol:


i personally favour “legs have gone”


You favour "I am not sure about this but I will trust the gaffer"
and then 6 months later when he makes a mistake "I was never sure about him, if I am honest" :lol:
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby yorkshire stag » Wed May 05, 2021 4:14 pm

georgefostersbeard wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Clough reiterating again today that after 6-8 new signings, solid experienced pros rather than flashy, headline signings.



Wonder how long it'll be until one of the new signings is considered

a) a crock

b)here for a last payday

c) not good enough before kicking a ball for us

d) all of the above

:lol:


i personally favour “legs have gone”


You favour "I am not sure about this but I will trust the gaffer"
and then 6 months later when he makes a mistake "I was never sure about him, if I am honest" :lol:


that’s absolutely spot on mate, see you next season
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby georgefostersbeard » Wed May 05, 2021 4:18 pm

I cannot wait. I feel so positive about next season, even if it is not automatic promotion, we are going to see good football and some homegrown kids which is a brilliant starting point
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby yorkshire stag » Wed May 05, 2021 4:33 pm

georgefostersbeard wrote:I cannot wait. I feel so positive about next season, even if it is not automatic promotion, we are going to see good football and some homegrown kids which is a brilliant starting point


i’ll remind you of this post around November time lol
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby victor A block » Wed May 05, 2021 5:37 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Clough reiterating again today that after 6-8 new signings, solid experienced pros rather than flashy, headline signings.



Wonder how long it'll be until one of the new signings is considered

a) a crock

b)here for a last payday

c) not good enough before kicking a ball for us

d) all of the above

:lol:


To be fair none of these will happen until after the signing on interview, where will be treated to , one or all of these one liners .

It's a massive club that's going places.

Once the gaffer told me of his plans I can't wait to be part of it

The facilities here are second to none.

I know (insert player name) and he told me they are a great bunch of lads.

I was going to sign for Chesterfield but they furloughed me .




I've probably missed a couple more
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed May 05, 2021 5:39 pm

victor A block wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Clough reiterating again today that after 6-8 new signings, solid experienced pros rather than flashy, headline signings.



Wonder how long it'll be until one of the new signings is considered

a) a crock

b)here for a last payday

c) not good enough before kicking a ball for us

d) all of the above

:lol:


To be fair none of these will happen until after the signing on interview, where will be treated to , one or all of these one liners .

It's a massive club that's going places.

Once the gaffer told me of his plans I can't wait to be part of it

The facilities here are second to none.

I know (insert player name) and he told me they are a great bunch of lads.


I've probably missed a couple more



Of course players use clichés in interviews, just like managers often do. Imagine if a new signing had said 'Well Mansfield offered me more money than Tranmere, so that's why I signed'. Everyone would be fuming. I am excited to see who we bring in though and wont write them off after a poor first half in a friendly :lol:
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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby STAGS FOR LIFE » Wed May 05, 2021 9:56 pm

:D Hoping next season could be a joyful one to remember and our new faces could turn out to be our stars .

Cannot wait to get going :D

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Re: Eight new faces on Clough summer shopping list

Postby Hjeldefan » Thu May 06, 2021 1:07 pm

The One wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Everybody will start with a clean slate next season as always. Some players may even respond better to playing in front of crowds. Would we have dropped as many defensive clangers if the Stags fans had been screaming at defenders to clear it? It will be nice to go to live matches again and find out.



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