Flitcroft appointed DOF at Port Vale

[Dan]

Flitcroft. Oh no. Dan will be on here soon. Worse manager ever. Horrible man. Useless, blew it twice. Blah blah

And he will be correct

Exactly

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Have you been on the Port Vale forums yet Dan giving them the bad news?

[Dan]

Have you been on the Port Vale forums yet Dan giving them the bad news?

I hadn’t thought of that!

[Captain Cunno]

Too busy on PornHub Dan ?

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

I don’t think the new manager will be too pleased with that. It makes the position of manager completely different to when it was advertised so maybe not so attractive to some.

It could be a way of getting the caretaker manager to reconsider and maybe take the job on if it’s a reduced role.

[Dan]

Too busy on PornHub Dan ?

He fell straight into that trap we set didn’t he?!

[daddycool]

Your correct with Otis most of the league were after him ,unfortunately we got him .

[MTFCMusings]

I think Otis has been playing RB for Tranmere and doing ok there.

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Adam Murray is 7/2 3rd favourite for Port Vale manager's job behind John McGreal and Danny Pugh.

Flitcroft says on his interview that it won’t be Pugh, he doesn’t want it. Although I think the bookies pay out if the interim boss takes charge of a certain amount of games.

Adam Murray now out to 6/1.

Perhaps DF will bring in Nicky Adams as manager with the Snooker Cue as his assistant.

[adamstag]

Good luck to him in his new venture

[Tippy Tappy Football]

DF will mainly have loads of contacts in the North West so not a bad fit for Port Vale. Just down the M6 to Burslem.

[Dan]

Wonder why they didn’t trust him with the managers job with how good he is?

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Tom Pope gives his opinion on David Flitcroft. Says he does not rant and rave at players who have a bad game but just makes them feel bad for letting their team mates down.

"Our new director of football David Flitcroft has plenty going for him – hard working, intelligent and a brilliant motivator. I got to see all that when he was my manager at Bury so I’m really pleased he’s going to be working at Vale Park. I had played against him when I was at Crewe but first got to know him when he spoke to me about signing from Vale in 2015. It was a bank holiday when I drove up to see him and ended up talking to him for ages. He is a family man, treats players like family, has great attention to detail and is a really good motivator.

Managers have different styles. So, Micky Adams would shout at you if he wasn’t happy while other managers don’t say much and are quite passive. In ‘Flicker’s’ case, he would make you feel as though you were letting your team mates down. We had Danny Mayor at Bury, the best player at the club by a mile and one of the best I have played with. He would have been the best player on the pitch for five weeks, head and shoulders above anybody, but then he would have a game where you knew he just wasn’t up for it. After a game Flicker, rather than bawling and shouting at him, would say, ‘Dan, you let the boys down today. They have given everything and you have just gone through the motions. He would make him feel guilty and the next week he would be the best player on the pitch again.

Training under him was very good, always enjoyable. There are always going to be players knocking on the manager’s door if they are not playing but he kept everybody on side. Part of that was he gave everybody a chance. In my case, he told me I could leave two or three times but I ended up changing his mind and staying. He didn’t give up on anybody.

We played good football under him. When you have someone like Danny Mayor you don’t just lump the ball, you try and play. He loved to try to play through the thirds, get it into midfield and then out wide to Zeli Ismail or Danny Mayor. He had Leon Clarke, James Vaughan and myself there so the team could go long or get it into your feet. During my time there he predominantly played one up front in a 4-3-3 but in my last year, because I had done well with James Vaughan, we ended up playing a 4-4-2.

I know he’s not our new manager but if he’s overseeing things as director of football then I am sure he will want football played the right way. He also took an interest in the whole club. His lad was in the youth team when I was there but he knew every kid and their parents through all the age groups. A lot of managers wouldn’t know who the youth team players are. But some Sundays the first team would go in for a cool down and he would walk us around the five or six different pitches with youth team games telling us about the players. So, he was interested in developing younger players as well as bringing in experienced ones and some of those youngsters, such as George Miller, Will Ferry and Jacob Bedeau, would go on to be sold."

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/f ... ry-4997154?

[Rob]

Say what you like about DF, and you have Darren, he was popular with the vast majority of the players. The only ones who didn't like him were classless wasters like Anderson.

[Big yella]

Say what you like about DF, and you have Darren, he was popular with the vast majority of the players. The only ones who didn't like him were classless wasters like Anderson.

And directors who thought they knew better than him.

[Tippy Tappy Football]

How do you know that Paul Anderson is a classless waster Rob? There are two sides to every story. He and Zander Diamond were clearly frozen out by DF. One day we might find out what happened similar to the Krystian Pearce/Graham Coughlan and George Pilkington/Paul Cox bust ups. All managers have a ruthless streak and I'm sure Nigel Clough is no different. The best ones are the ones who are good man managers who can keep squad players motivated and on side.......before releasing them at the end of the season The Cowleys did this very well at Lincoln.

I don't know what kind of person DF is. He seems a decent bloke. I only chatted to him once at Retford and he snapped at me for suggesting the Stags needed to sign a goal scoring midfield player. He said that was why he had signed Otis Khan......and then he never played him

[Tippy Tappy Football]

One problem DF and the new Port Vale coach will have will be dealing with Tom Pope who is a Port Vale legend but past his best. I don't know if Tom Pope is hoping for a backroom job but they already have a massive backroom staff at Vale.

Kevin Bird told me the story that Ian Greaves was ruthless when he came to the Stags. Greaves quickly told him and Rod Arnold that their days at the club were over.

[Conker]

Rob had to ruin it with that remark haha, just shows he’s only interested in looking at it from Flitcroft side.

DF was a good coach and popular with the majority of players at Mansfield, but he’s also got form for freezing players out at nearly every club he’s been at. If you don’t want a player at a club, freezing them out completely isn’t a good route.

[MTFCMusings]

Tom Pope is probably thankful to David Flitcroft for not sacking him at Bury. He didn’t behave very well when he was there by his own admission on the Undr the Cosh podcast.

[Dan]

He might be a nice bloke but he’s proved he’s not a very good manager. Whereas Evans is a raspberry but is a decent manager. I think whatever job you have if you are a manager you can’t afford to be too friendly to your staff.

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Tom Pope is probably thankful to David Flitcroft for not sacking him at Bury. He didn’t behave very well when he was there by his own admission on the Undr the Cosh podcast.

Was it Tom Pope who threatened Jim Gannon on the Port Vale team bus and Jim Gannon stopped the bus and just walked off? It was a Port Vale story on a podcast but I cannot remember the player.

[MTFCMusings]

Tom Pope is probably thankful to David Flitcroft for not sacking him at Bury. He didn’t behave very well when he was there by his own admission on the Undr the Cosh podcast.

I don't think I've listened to that one Sam.

Was it Tom Pope who threatened Jim Gannon on the Port Vale team bus and Jim Gannon stopped the bus and just walked off?

No that was Geoff Horsefield, but Pope was on the bus and talks about the story. Horsefield has also been on.

It’s worth a listen. Pope says that no manager will stop him from having his ‘Sunday sessions’ in the pub with his mates.

[Tippy Tappy Football]

He might be a nice bloke but he’s proved he’s not a very good manager. Whereas Evans is a raspberry but is a decent manager. I think whatever job you have if you are a manager you can’t afford to be too friendly to your staff.

Apparently some of the players used to find Steve Evans very funny. It may not have always been intentional. They knew he was a complete raspberry but they could have a good laugh at him. This certainly came over in Ben Smith's book especially the missing fish and chips on the bus home from Morecambe.

[Rob]

How do you know that Paul Anderson is a classless waster Rob? There are two sides to every story. He and Zander Diamond were clearly frozen out by DF. One day we might find out what happened similar to the Krystian Pearce/Graham Coughlan and George Pilkington/Paul Cox bust ups. All managers have a ruthless streak and I'm sure Nigel Clough is no different. The best ones are the ones who are good man managers who can keep squad players motivated and on side.......before releasing them at the end of the season The Cowleys did this very well at Lincoln.

I don't know what kind of person DF is. He seems a decent bloke. I only chatted to him once at Retford and he snapped at me for suggesting the Stags needed to sign a goal scoring midfield player. He said that was why he had signed Otis Khan......and then he never played him

Maybe you should be our manager Darren I think we all thought Khan was a good signing, truth is he was utter garbage for us.

Anderson was paid a lot of money by our club and delivered nothing, he left without any decency and then liked a post or something like that when DF was sacked. Whenever I saw him play for us he looked like he couldn't be bothered and barely a single fan thought he should have been in our team at any stage. His behaviour when he was sub for Northampton was very childish, whilst he was getting pelters from plenty, a better man would have risen above it. As I said, classless waster who cost JR an absolute fortune, in terms of how much he cost and what he delivered he is one of the worst players to have played for us in my lifetime.

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Anderson was paid a lot of money by our club and delivered nothing, he left without any decency and then liked a post or something like that when DF was sacked. Whenever I saw him play for us he looked like he couldn't be bothered and barely a single fan thought he should have been in our team at any stage. His behaviour when he was sub for Northampton was very childish, whilst he was getting pelters from plenty, a better man would have risen above it. As I said, classless waster who cost JR an absolute fortune, in terms of how much he cost and what he delivered he is one of the worst players to have played for us in my lifetime.

I've missed a good old fashioned well reasoned and balanced Rob Rant