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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:15 pm

Maybe it’s simply something like the drains are blocked or full of rubbish. The Sandy Pate is apparently shut because of an accumulation of water from the West Stand so could it be linked?

I remember Mansfield town centre badly flooding in 1976 following an accumulation of rubbish in the drains due to the red hot summer. It may be worth exploring a little further than the pitch itself before we arrange for it to be ripped up again.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby bear 73 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:36 pm

Cabbage patch pitch , what a bonus for away teams who just want to defend in depth and hope for a goal from a break away or set play. A bad playing surface stops good teams playing football, and is a brilliant method to stop good teams performing, The best examples are F_A cup games , when the poor pitches give opportunities for giant killing.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:42 pm

Nigel Clough will need to adopt the tactics that are best suited to the pitch which includes playing more long balls to a target man (Andy Cook) and putting the ball into the box as much as possible from set pieces and long throws. Newport had to do this on their pitch.

Our best chance yesterday (George Lapslie in the 2nd half) and Jordan Bowery's goal came from long balls by Ryan Sweeney and Marek Stech.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby Sedgwick » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:29 pm

anyone seen Swanseas pitch?! worse than ours :lol:

I think we have seen that mez can keep a pitch in good condition... I think him being on furlough is probably the reason its so bad this year, cant have been easy

Be interesting to see what he says
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby Chrisuknottm » Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:14 pm

Sedgwick wrote:anyone seen Swanseas pitch?! worse than ours :lol:

I think we have seen that mez can keep a pitch in good condition... I think him being on furlough is probably the reason its so bad this year, cant have been easy

Be interesting to see what he says


Yes but Swansea's pitch was actually dug up immediately after their game yesterday
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby daddycool » Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:25 pm

Chrisuknottm wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:anyone seen Swanseas pitch?! worse than ours :lol:

I think we have seen that mez can keep a pitch in good condition... I think him being on furlough is probably the reason its so bad this year, cant have been easy

Be interesting to see what he says


Yes but Swansea's pitch was actually dug up immediately after their game yesterday


Ours was dug up half way through the match !!
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby arsene wengers coat » Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:57 pm

To use the excuse that we've got one side of the pitch that doesn't see the sun doesn't explain that huge sloppy section near the scoreboard.

There are sun lamps that can be used to help the grass grow and the ground dry out.

Quick question - if the pitch has given up, why can't we play at the training ground if the pitch there is better. There's no fans so what's the difference?
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby victor A block » Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:40 pm

The pitch is abysmal. When we were allowed in it always seemed strange how much we watered it before kick off even if it had been raining for 24 hours. Seems to be a permanent mud bath.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:51 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:To use the excuse that we've got one side of the pitch that doesn't see the sun doesn't explain that huge sloppy section near the scoreboard.

There are sun lamps that can be used to help the grass grow and the ground dry out.

Quick question - if the pitch has given up, why can't we play at the training ground if the pitch there is better. There's no fans so what's the difference?


You have to register your ground at the start of the season. Moving your ground mid-season requires EFL consent. I suspect having a raspberry pitch condition isn't gong to be sufficient.

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13.6.4 would not have a material adverse effect on visiting Clubs;

13.6.5 would not to any material extent adversely affect Clubs having their registered grounds in the immediate vicinity of the proposed location; and

13.6.6 would enhance the reputation of The League and promote the game of association football generally.

13.7 The Club must disclose, as soon as practicable, plans and details of any proposed future move to a new stadium.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby natfromboza » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:59 pm

As a couple of people have mentioned already, Mez and all the ground staff were put on Furlough. This was throughout Spring/Summer when the major work on the pitch is carried out. You cannot do anything at this time of year to the pitch to greatly improve its condition due to the fact that we are now in winter. No point in blaming the ground staff at all.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby daddycool » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:53 pm

I would imagine that would be the case for all the grounds at our level then .
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:15 pm

There appears to be two patches, one by the Bishop Street towards the a North Stand and one on the same position under the West Stand (if you rotate the pitch 180degrees)

What’s causing the issues in those places ? Seems odd
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby stag861 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:13 am

bellwhiff wrote:There appears to be two patches, one by the Bishop Street towards the a North Stand and one on the same position under the West Stand (if you rotate the pitch 180degrees)

What’s causing the issues in those places ? Seems odd


This is where the teams warm up. All teams play one touch passing which causes the pitch to tear up. The constant rain we've had the last few weeks hasn't helped. Look at me now I'm an armchair groundsman as well as a manager / owner.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby west country stag » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:28 pm

There must be an underground lake under the pitch
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby The One » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:09 pm

Can we not put covers on.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby Walton Stag » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:27 pm

........or check the drains!!!!!
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby oh stags » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:26 am

lifestags wrote:That pitch is an absolute disgrace.

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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby oh stags » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:36 am

smulls wrote:The awful pitch has definitely affected our home form as Mansfield players are not comfortable to play on. Mez is not experienced enough!

Wot a clueless strawberry mez been a long time wen eating ur Xmas breakfast mez was in work sorting pitch raspberry
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby Gazmoose82 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:50 am

west country stag wrote:There must be an underground lake under the pitch

The way things have been going the last few years i think an old indian burial ground is more likely :lol:
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby smulls » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:58 am

oh stags wrote:
smulls wrote:The awful pitch has definitely affected our home form as Mansfield players are not comfortable to play on. Mez is not experienced enough!

Wot a clueless strawberry mez been a long time wen eating ur Xmas breakfast mez was in work sorting pitch raspberry



Don’t personally abuse me next time please, oh stags! I am entitled to my opinion! Watch his language, moderator.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby MTFCMAD » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:10 am

oh stags wrote:
smulls wrote:The awful pitch has definitely affected our home form as Mansfield players are not comfortable to play on. Mez is not experienced enough!

Wot a clueless strawberry mez been a long time wen eating ur Xmas breakfast mez was in work sorting pitch raspberry


The pitch is shocking though.

Gone from one of best to one of worse. Any reason why ???
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby part time pete » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:44 am

MTFCMAD wrote:
oh stags wrote:
smulls wrote:The awful pitch has definitely affected our home form as Mansfield players are not comfortable to play on. Mez is not experienced enough!

Wot a clueless strawberry mez been a long time wen eating ur Xmas breakfast mez was in work sorting pitch raspberry


The pitch is shocking though.

Gone from one of best to one of worse. Any reason why ???


I have heard, but not sure how true, that very little work done on the pitch in the summer as the staff were on furlough.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:42 am

oh stags wrote:
smulls wrote:The awful pitch has definitely affected our home form as Mansfield players are not comfortable to play on. Mez is not experienced enough!

Wot a clueless strawberry mez been a long time wen eating ur Xmas breakfast mez was in work sorting pitch raspberry


At least he seems to be better able to frame a coherent sentence than yourself.

Put your spaghetti hoops down and answer the question. Do you think the pitch is in good nick ? If we can agree that it isn’t, then maybe we can move on to why.
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby ST4GS » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:42 am

part time pete wrote:
MTFCMAD wrote:
oh stags wrote:
smulls wrote:The awful pitch has definitely affected our home form as Mansfield players are not comfortable to play on. Mez is not experienced enough!

Wot a clueless strawberry mez been a long time wen eating ur Xmas breakfast mez was in work sorting pitch raspberry


The pitch is shocking though.

Gone from one of best to one of worse. Any reason why ???


I have heard, but not sure how true, that very little work done on the pitch in the summer as the staff were on furlough.
If we have gone from the number 1 ranked surface to number 24 in less than a year then the only conclusion is we furloughed staff but non of our rivals did in order to maintain theirs??
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Re: Cabbage patch

Postby Bradders » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:21 am

ST4GS wrote:
part time pete wrote:
MTFCMAD wrote:
oh stags wrote:
smulls wrote:The awful pitch has definitely affected our home form as Mansfield players are not comfortable to play on. Mez is not experienced enough!

Wot a clueless strawberry mez been a long time wen eating ur Xmas breakfast mez was in work sorting pitch raspberry


The pitch is shocking though.

Gone from one of best to one of worse. Any reason why ???


I have heard, but not sure how true, that very little work done on the pitch in the summer as the staff were on furlough.
If we have gone from the number 1 ranked surface to number 24 in less than a year then the only conclusion is we furloughed staff but non of our rivals did in order to maintain theirs??

I don't see why we'd put ground staff on furlough. That doesn't make sense. If you have a pitch it needs the full year-round treatment.
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