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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Barrow is on Tuesday night Darren.


Don't tell me that Sam. I might have forgotten to watch the game and had a good evening :lol:
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:47 pm

1959-1960, 1938-1939, 1933-1934 and 1927-1928 were also bad starts

1914-15: 7 0 3 4 8 -12
2020-21: 7 0 4 3 6-10
1996-97: 7 0 4 3 2-8
2002-03: 7 1 1 5 9-22
1983-84: 7 1 1 5 3-13
1971-72: 7 1 1 5 3-12
1990-91: 7 1 1 5 5-10
2007-08: 7 1 1 5 9-15
1975-76: 7 1 1 5 8-14
1959-60: 7 1 2 4 7 -9
1938-39: 7 1 3 3 7 -6
1933-34: 7 1 4 2 10 -2
1927-28: 7 1 3 3 8 -5

You've got to take the positives. At least we do not have Mansfield Mechanics voting us out of the league! :lol:
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Dan » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:09 pm

It might end up being that a defeat by Darrell Clarke sees GC sacked.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Dave Wayne » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:06 am

As much as the start to the season is frustrating, I think people's judgment is being clouded by their dislike for GC after he failed to give us a 'new manager bounce' last season. I think he was starting to pull it together when the season was halted. With better finishing at Cheltenham we could have gone into lockdown on the back of 3 straight wins.
This season, with a bit more luck, we could have been in a very different position. The Tranmere game again we could have won with better finishing, and Orient we would have won if not for the mad last 10 minutes. A point wouldn't have been undeserved against Exeter, and a dodgy penalty cost us a point against Newport.
There is no arguing that the Stevenage and Bradford performances were poor, but how much of that was down to confidence ? If we had gone into those 2 home games on 8 points instead of 2 it could have been very different.
Personal opinion, I thought we played well against Morecambe, especially as their start has been better than ours.
With the position that Cheltenham are in compared to us, I would think it would be very harsh to remove GC from his position after today's game.
We have 2 home games over the next week which will take us to 10 league games played. If we don't win at least 1 of those, then I would expect JR to be taking action.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:15 am

Dave Wayne wrote:As much as the start to the season is frustrating, I think people's judgment is being clouded by their dislike for GC after he failed to give us a 'new manager bounce' last season. I think he was starting to pull it together when the season was halted. With better finishing at Cheltenham we could have gone into lockdown on the back of 3 straight wins.
This season, with a bit more luck, we could have been in a very different position. The Tranmere game again we could have won with better finishing, and Orient we would have won if not for the mad last 10 minutes. A point wouldn't have been undeserved against Exeter, and a dodgy penalty cost us a point against Newport.
There is no arguing that the Stevenage and Bradford performances were poor, but how much of that was down to confidence ? If we had gone into those 2 home games on 8 points instead of 2 it could have been very different.
Personal opinion, I thought we played well against Morecambe, especially as their start has been better than ours.
With the position that Cheltenham are in compared to us, I would think it would be very harsh to remove GC from his position after today's game.
We have 2 home games over the next week which will take us to 10 league games played. If we don't win at least 1 of those, then I would expect JR to be taking action.


Have you been to see your brother in Spain

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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Dave Wayne » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:48 pm

Parkinsons Perm wrote:
Dave Wayne wrote:As much as the start to the season is frustrating, I think people's judgment is being clouded by their dislike for GC after he failed to give us a 'new manager bounce' last season. I think he was starting to pull it together when the season was halted. With better finishing at Cheltenham we could have gone into lockdown on the back of 3 straight wins.
This season, with a bit more luck, we could have been in a very different position. The Tranmere game again we could have won with better finishing, and Orient we would have won if not for the mad last 10 minutes. A point wouldn't have been undeserved against Exeter, and a dodgy penalty cost us a point against Newport.
There is no arguing that the Stevenage and Bradford performances were poor, but how much of that was down to confidence ? If we had gone into those 2 home games on 8 points instead of 2 it could have been very different.
Personal opinion, I thought we played well against Morecambe, especially as their start has been better than ours.
With the position that Cheltenham are in compared to us, I would think it would be very harsh to remove GC from his position after today's game.
We have 2 home games over the next week which will take us to 10 league games played. If we don't win at least 1 of those, then I would expect JR to be taking action.


Have you been to see your brother in Spain

Cudda, wudda, shudda and lots of luck :roll:

Seriously ? 10 minutes ? I'm gonna have to take out a restraining order.
You either :
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(b) have an alarm set up that tells you whenever I have posted (is that an option ?), which is even sadder.

Just because we disagreed over something doesn't mean you have to immediately disagree with everything I post, but if you feel you must, at least put some effort in and offer an alternative opinion. ;)
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:23 pm

Dave Wayne wrote:
Parkinsons Perm wrote:
Dave Wayne wrote:As much as the start to the season is frustrating, I think people's judgment is being clouded by their dislike for GC after he failed to give us a 'new manager bounce' last season. I think he was starting to pull it together when the season was halted. With better finishing at Cheltenham we could have gone into lockdown on the back of 3 straight wins.
This season, with a bit more luck, we could have been in a very different position. The Tranmere game again we could have won with better finishing, and Orient we would have won if not for the mad last 10 minutes. A point wouldn't have been undeserved against Exeter, and a dodgy penalty cost us a point against Newport.
There is no arguing that the Stevenage and Bradford performances were poor, but how much of that was down to confidence ? If we had gone into those 2 home games on 8 points instead of 2 it could have been very different.
Personal opinion, I thought we played well against Morecambe, especially as their start has been better than ours.
With the position that Cheltenham are in compared to us, I would think it would be very harsh to remove GC from his position after today's game.
We have 2 home games over the next week which will take us to 10 league games played. If we don't win at least 1 of those, then I would expect JR to be taking action.


Have you been to see your brother in Spain

Cudda, wudda, shudda and lots of luck :roll:

Seriously ? 10 minutes ? I'm gonna have to take out a restraining order.
You either :
(a) are on here all day every day, which is quite sad, or
(b) have an alarm set up that tells you whenever I have posted (is that an option ?), which is even sadder.

Just because we disagreed over something doesn't mean you have to immediately disagree with everything I post, but if you feel you must, at least put some effort in and offer an alternative opinion. ;)


It's not rocket science Dave, we are simply not gone good enough in all areas.

Can't defend as we have 3 non footballing sloths at the back.
No width as the formation is narrow so we are totally over run in midfield. (First time we play with width we score a good team goal)
Nothing for the forwards to feed on as we are over run, the odd chance falls to a man who has no footballing ability whatsoever and should be nowhere near our club never mind starting.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby spanishstag » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:47 pm

Parkinsons perm ,more like shirley temples ringlets
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:49 pm

spanishstag wrote:Parkinsons perm ,more like shirley temples ringlets


Is that your best :roll:
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:51 pm

Stags points totals

Played..18/19..19/20..20/21
...1.........3........1.........1
...2.........4........2.........2
...3.........5........5.........2
...4.........6........5.........2
...5.........7........6.........3
...6........10.......6.........3
...7........10.......9.........4
...8........11.......9.........5

PPG......1.4.....1.1.......0.6

Tranmere H 0-0 Stags dominant and just needed to score
Orient A 2-2 winning 2-0 with 8 minutes left :shock:
Exeter H 1-2 went 1-0 up but Exeter better team
Newport A 1-2 winning with 12 minutes left, lost with dodgy penalty!
Stevenage h 0-0 poor, got to win home games
Bradford H 1-3 poor performance
Morecambe A 1-1 OK point if you win home games
Cheltenham A 0-0 OK point if you win home games

Stags should really have 5 more points and be 4 points off the play-offs.

Graham Coughlan still has my 100% support as you don't have to win many more games than you lose to make the play-offs and I believe this team is capable of better results.

The next 3 games are crucial though, I think Graham needs 2 wins otherwise he'll probable be gone.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:59 pm

Barrow will be his best chance of a win. Walsall are currently on the longest unbeaten run in English football (13 games)
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:02 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Barrow will be his best chance of a win. Walsall are currently on the longest unbeaten run in English football (13 games)


They've only beat Orient & Grimsby at home though, all the rest draws.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:06 pm

KirkbyStag2 wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Barrow will be his best chance of a win. Walsall are currently on the longest unbeaten run in English football (13 games)


They've only beat Orient & Grimsby at home though, all the rest draws.


It goes back to last season too.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:43 pm

Mansfield Town's worst start to the league season without a win for 106 years and in its Football League history.

1909-10: 8 0 1 7 -16 (Notts & Derbyshire League)
1914-15: 8 0 3 5 -14 (Central Alliance League)
1913-14: 8 0 4 4 -9 (Notts & Derbyshire League)
2020-21: 8 0 5 3 -4
2002-03: 8 1 1 6 -18
1971-72: 8 1 1 6 -10
2007-08: 8 1 1 6 -7
1990-91: 8 1 2 5 -5
1996-97: 8 1 4 3 -5
1959-60: 8 1 3 4 -9
1938-39: 8 1 3 4 -9
2005-06: 8 1 3 4 -3
1978-79: 8 1 4 3 -1
2000-01: 8 1 5 2 -2
1933-34: 8 1 5 2 -2
1995-96: 8 1 6 1 0
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby part time pete » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:48 am

Not many of those seasons are not relegation seasons

Can you put a big R next to the relegation seasons.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Martin Shaw » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:45 am

part time pete wrote:Not many of those seasons are not relegation seasons

Can you put a big R next to the relegation seasons.

and include the number of points if this is a "points table comparison" (probably best to use 3 points for a win)
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:42 pm

Mansfield Town's worst start to the league season without a win for 106 years and in its Football League history.
(including final league position and whether we were relegated)

1909-10: 8 0 1 7 -16 (Notts & Derbyshire League) 17th of 17
1914-15: 8 0 3 5 -14 (Central Alliance League) 4th of 13
1913-14: 8 0 4 4 -9 (Notts & Derbyshire League) 13th of 15 (Failed to be re-elected)
2020-21: 8 0 5 3 -4
2002-03: 8 1 1 6 -18 23rd Relegated
1971-72: 8 1 1 6 -10 21st Relegated
2007-08: 8 1 1 6 -7 23rd Relegated
1990-91: 8 1 2 5 -5 24th Relegated
1959-60: 8 1 3 4 -9 22nd Relegated
1938-39: 8 1 3 4 -9 16th
2005-06: 8 1 3 4 -3 16th
1996-97: 8 1 4 3 -5 11th
1978-79: 8 1 4 3 -1 18th
2000-01: 8 1 5 2 -2 13th
1933-34: 8 1 5 2 -2 17th
1995-96: 8 1 6 1 0 19th
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:14 pm

Stags points totals

Played..18/19..19/20..20/21
...1.........3........1.........1
...2.........4........2.........2
...3.........5........5.........2
...4.........6........5.........2
...5.........7........6.........3
...6........10.......6.........3
...7........10.......9.........4
...8........11.......9.........5
...9........14.......9.........5
..10.......15......10.........6
..11.......16......10.........7

PPG......1.5.....0.9.......0.6
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Suttonian » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:32 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:1959-1960, 1938-1939, 1933-1934 and 1927-1928 were also bad starts

1914-15: 7 0 3 4 8 -12
2020-21: 7 0 4 3 6-10
1996-97: 7 0 4 3 2-8
2002-03: 7 1 1 5 9-22
1983-84: 7 1 1 5 3-13
1971-72: 7 1 1 5 3-12
1990-91: 7 1 1 5 5-10
2007-08: 7 1 1 5 9-15
1975-76: 7 1 1 5 8-14
1959-60: 7 1 2 4 7 -9
1938-39: 7 1 3 3 7 -6
1933-34: 7 1 4 2 10 -2
1927-28: 7 1 3 3 8 -5

You've got to take the positives. At least we do not have Mansfield Mechanics voting us out of the league! :lol:


1983-84 was Ian Greaves 1st season iirc. Good job we stuck with him. I'm sure he said something along the lines of taking 3 years to sort this out
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:32 pm

Stags points totals

Played..18/19..19/20..20/21
...1.........3........1.........1
...2.........4........2.........2
...3.........5........5.........2
...4.........6........5.........2
...5.........7........6.........3
...6........10.......6.........3
...7........10.......9.........4
...8........11.......9.........5
...9........14.......9.........5
..10.......15......10.........6
..11.......16......10.........7
..12.......17......13........10

PPG......1.4.....1.1.......0.8
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby part time pete » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:30 pm

So 34 games left in the season.

Just over 70 pts scraps you into the play offs.

So just another say 21 wins will do it.

21 out of 34 easy.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby Spiritater » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:51 am

Another 40'll do me. Not a big ask
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby geoffhill » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:41 am

At least now we are looking up the table rather than down.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby calvostag38 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:11 am

Not only looking up the table, but looking as though we belong in it. We have been excellent in the games since GC has left, with pretty much the same team. Biggest surprise....
Jordan Bowerey, from zero to hero in 5 games. Long may it last. Keep on it you mighty stags.
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Re: Stags Points Total Comparison v 2019/20 & 2018/19

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:17 pm

Stags points totals

Played..07/08..18/19..19/20..20/21
...1..........1.......3........1.........1
...2..........1.......4........2.........2
...3..........1.......5........5.........2
...4..........4.......6........5.........2
...5..........4.......7........6.........3
...6..........4......10.......6.........3
...7..........4......10.......9.........4
...8..........4......11.......9.........5
...9..........4......14.......9.........5
..10.........4......15......10.........6
..11.........5......16......10.........7
..12.........8......17......13........10
..13.........9......20......16........11
..14........12.....21......17........11

PPG......0.86....1.5....1.2......0.78 :shock:

I've added Stags 2007/08 relegation season as now this season is worse!
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