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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby chip63 » Sun May 09, 2021 8:28 am

Spiritater wrote:
chip63 wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Points picked up since the day Clough was appointed :

Bolton 69
Cheltenham 63
Morecambe 61
Tranmere 61
Cambridge 57
Salford 55
Stevenage 53
Forest Green 52
Mansfield 51


If we'd have held on against Bolton at home they would be in the playoffs and we would of finished 11th.
Who knows where we would be if that break for the weather had not happened.


Probably where we are now, with Bowery/Reid as our Dynamic Duo up front we were never going to score enough to win enough games to challenge in reality.


We have a lot to thank them both for during December/January, some very important games won with thier goals.
We've seen how Quinn has improved our midfield and who knows how much Akins would of improved our strike force.
All ifs buts and maybes.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby bellwhiff » Sun May 09, 2021 10:59 am

MTFCMusings wrote:Points picked up since the day Clough was appointed :

Bolton 69
Cheltenham 63
Morecambe 61
Tranmere 61
Cambridge 57
Salford 55
Stevenage 53
Forest Green 52
Mansfield 51

Shows that if we’d twisted instead of sticking in the transfer window, we’d have been up there.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Sun May 09, 2021 11:26 am

bellwhiff wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Points picked up since the day Clough was appointed :

Bolton 69
Cheltenham 63
Morecambe 61
Tranmere 61
Cambridge 57
Salford 55
Stevenage 53
Forest Green 52
Mansfield 51

Shows that if we’d twisted instead of sticking in the transfer window, we’d have been up there.



I don’t think it was the intention to stick, things just didn’t work out with the targets.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby lifestags » Sun May 09, 2021 12:45 pm

Assists/goal involvements final table.

Once again this is a ball from the player that has led to a goal, it may have taken a deflection off the opposition player but fell to our player, or a Free Kick/Penalty that they have won.

(Not including goals scored)



Bowery-9
Charlsey-9
Gordon-4
McLaughlin-4
Reid-4
Maris-4
Lapslie-4
Perch-3
Cook-2
Benning-2
Quinn-2
Law-2
Clarke-2
Sinclair-1
O Keefe-1
Rawson-1
J. Clarke-1
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun May 09, 2021 2:14 pm

Mansfield Town League Appearances (28 Players Used)
Farrend Rawson 43(0)
George Maris 39(1)
Jordan Bowery 38(5)
Ryan Sweeney 33(3)
Harry Charsley 32(11)
Jamie Reid 31(8)
James Perch 31(1)
Stephen McLaughlin 29(7)
Kellan Gordon 28(4)
Ollie Clarke 27(6)
George Lapslie 27(2)
Mal Benning 25(7)
Marek Stech 23(1)
Aidan Stone 22(0)
Stephen Quinn 21(2)
Jason Law 12(5)
Rollin Menayese 10(0)
Nicky Maynard 9(8)
Andy Cook 8(12)
Corey O'Keeffe 7(6)
Keaton Ward 1(6)
James Clarke 1(1)
Jamie Pardington 1(1)
Aaron O'Driscoll 1(2)
Ollie Sarkic 0(4)
Jake Wright 0(2)
Jaden Charles 0(2)
Alistair Smith 0(1)

Total Points Gained Per Player Start
George Maris 53
Farrend Rawson 49
Jordan Bowery 48
Ryan Sweeney 45
Jamie Reid 44
George Lapslie 43
Harry Charsley 38
James Perch 37
Kellan Gordon 37
Stephen McLaughlin 36
Ollie Clarke 33
Mal Benning 32
Marek Stech 29
Stephen Quinn 28
Aidan Stone 26
Ollie Clarke 25
James Perch 24
Tyrese Sinclair 14
Jason Law 10

Average Points Per Player Start
Tyrese Sinclair 2
George Lapslie 1.59
Jamie Reid 1.42
George Maris 1.36
Ryan Sweeney 1.36
Stephen Quinn 1.33
Kellan Gordon 1.32
Mal Benning 1.28
Jordan Bowery 1.26
Marek Stech 1.26
Andy Cook 1.25
Stephen McLaughlin 1.24
Ollie Clarke 1.22
James Perch 1.19
Harry Charsley 1.19
Aidan Stone 1.18
Ryan Sweeney 1.15
Farrend Rawson 1.14
Jason Law 0.83
Rollin Menayese 0.8
Nicky Maynard 0.78
Corey O'Keeffe 0.67

League Wins
George Maris 12
George Lapslie 11
Jordan Bowery 11
Jamie Reid 11
Ryan Sweeney 11
Farrend Rawson 10
Stephen McLaughlin 8
Ollie Clarke 8
James Perch 8
Kellan Gordon 8
Stephen Quinn 7
Harry Charsley 7
Mal Benning 7
Aidan Stone 6
Marek Stech 6
Tyrese Sinclair 4
Jason Law 2
Andy Cook 1
Nicky Maynard 1
Rollin Menayese 1
James Clarke 1
Keaton Ward 1
Jamie Pardington 1

League Win Rate
Tyrese Sinclair 57.4%
George Lapslie 40.7%
Jamie Reid 35.5%
Stephen Quinn 33.3%
Ryan Sweeney 33.3%
George Maris 30.8%
Ollie Clarke 29.6%
Jordan Bowery 28.9%
Kellan Gordon 28.6%
Mal Benning 28%
Stephen McLaughlin 27.6%
Aidan Stone 27.3%
Marek Stech 26.1%
James Perch 25.8%
Farrend Rawson 23.3%
Harry Charsley 21.9%
Jason Law 16.7%
Andy Cook 12.5%
Nicky Maynard 11.1%
Rollin Menayese 10%

James Clarke, Keaton Ward and Jamie Pardington = 1 league start and 1 win (100%)
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sun May 09, 2021 6:17 pm

In the "HOME" table Stags finished 19th

In the "AWAY" table Stags finished joint 8th

Goals scored, Stags finished 9th

Goals conceded, Stags finished 13th

Stags conceded 69% of goals in the 2nd half

Stags conceded 20 goals in the last 15 minutes (36.4% of total)

Without looking online etc, can you name,
The 3 teams Stags done the double over
The 3 teams who done the double over Stags
The 4 teams Stags drawn both games with
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun May 09, 2021 6:57 pm

Double Over
Oldham Athletic
Port Vale
Scunthorpe United

Double Over Stags
Harrogate Town
Leyton Orient
Bradford City

Draws
Colchester United
Tranmere Rovers
Walsall
Grimsby Town
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun May 09, 2021 6:58 pm

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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sun May 09, 2021 7:05 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Double Over
Oldham Athletic
Port Vale
Scunthorpe United

Double Over Stags
Harrogate Town
Leyton Orient
Bradford City

Draws
Colchester United
Tranmere Rovers
Walsall
Grimsby Town


All correct, apart from Orient (draw & loss)
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Sun May 09, 2021 7:12 pm

I think it was Barrow
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby chip63 » Sun May 09, 2021 7:19 pm

It was a treble over scunny.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sun May 09, 2021 7:29 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I think it was Barrow


Yes, at Field Mill it was the managers dismissal performance!
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun May 09, 2021 8:28 pm



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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Big yella » Sun May 09, 2021 8:59 pm

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My chief exec!

Who have we got in the play offs? What day is the game on? What time is kick off?

A graph from a CEO, or the experienced manager, who has admitted he doesn’t understand xg, saying it’s obvious we’re poor in both boxes but ok in midfield? Umm! Who to let train and pick the team, I can’t decide.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby lifestags » Sun May 09, 2021 9:07 pm

It proves that we’re a decent strikeforce away from promotion!
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun May 09, 2021 9:17 pm

What is your point in the last paragraph? It seems to be that the data backs up managers opinion, but that somehow means that we shouldn’t look at what the CEO has posted (even though he’s just screenshotted a graph from a website)

You also seem to be under the impression that someone has said we should let the CEO pick and train the team because he posted a graph :lol:

I think Cloughy said he doesn’t understand how xG is worked out, rather than he doesn’t understand what it is.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun May 09, 2021 9:27 pm

Darragh MacAnthony is a big data and stats man. He uses it for recruitment and for games and Peterborough have just been promoted.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby chip63 » Sun May 09, 2021 9:30 pm

If we had Aguero up front instead of Reid would our xg go up?
I'm not taking the pith, I just don't get some of it.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun May 09, 2021 9:38 pm

chip63 wrote:If we had Aguero up front instead of Reid would our xg go up?
I'm not taking the pith, I just don't get some of it.


xG does not take into account the ability of the player taking the shot, so no.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby chip63 » Sun May 09, 2021 10:40 pm

A slight flaw on the system I think, I will half it for league 2 teams when I see it.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby gazza1988 » Sun May 09, 2021 11:00 pm

chip63 wrote:If we had Aguero up front instead of Reid would our xg go up?
I'm not taking the pith, I just don't get some of it.


Simply put xG is the likelihood of a goal occurring from a shot. Doesn't matter who is taking the shot.

Every attempt on goal is rated between 0 (nobody has ever scored from this position ever) and 1 (nobody has ever not scored from this position ever)

As we know players can score from pretty much anywhere and players can miss shots that looked easier to score.

Quinn's goal would be rated highly, open net and everything (say 0.8). A shot from distance would be rated low because there's lots of variables that can keep it out (say 0.2)

What the xG is is all those attempts on goal are rated similar to what I put in brackets and are added up and that gives you your xG. It's how many goals you'd deserve from thst game. You create 3 or 4 very good chances you'd expect at least one of them to go in.

Useful for identifying whether you are creating good chances regularly and if you are or aren't taking them.

Once you start taking into account the player taking the shot its no longer statistics but biased depending on the person's opinion of the player.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun May 09, 2021 11:05 pm

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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby part time pete » Sun May 09, 2021 11:19 pm

Surprisingly only a xG victory of 1.9 vs 0.9 yesterday.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun May 09, 2021 11:24 pm

The Stags finished 5th in the xG table

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Re: Mansfield Town and League 2 Statistics 2020-2021

Postby Dan » Sun May 09, 2021 11:39 pm

chip63 wrote:If we had Aguero up front instead of Reid would our xg go up?
I'm not taking the pith, I just don't get some of it.


That all depends on if he takes the penalties or not... :D
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