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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby KJW STAG » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:30 pm

Sedgwick wrote:At this point we need to learn to live with it or we will have no small businesses including football clubs.

In April we had 20,000 daily tests and 5000 daily cases. 5%

In September we have 230,000 daily tests and 4000 daily cases. 1.4%

It's so clear to see it's not getting worse, we need to get back to normal asap.


Should that be 25% or should it read 500 ;)
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby Dave Wayne » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:44 pm

Sedgwick wrote:At this point we need to learn to live with it or we will have no small businesses including football clubs.

In April we had 20,000 daily tests and 5000 daily cases. 5%

In September we have 230,000 daily tests and 4000 daily cases. 1.4%

It's so clear to see it's not getting worse, we need to get back to normal asap.

In April the tests were targetted and the majority were people who were in hospitals, care homes, etc.

In September anyone can go for a test (if they can get one) if they claim to be showing symptoms. Therefore, the percentage of positive tests is bound to be less.

The medical and scientific experts have access to all the data, not just snippets from the media and internet, and they say it is getting worse.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby smulls » Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:26 pm

The One wrote:
Hjeldefan wrote:
oldweststander wrote:
Old amber wrote:Can’t see us getting back to a match this year at least... if Boris the clown and his crazy scientists have owt to do with it.



Why do we allow stupid comments on here.

In fairness, Boris is a clown.


Keep politics out of it please


Keir is a clown either!!
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby OllertonStag » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:55 pm

Could be looking at the end of March for the return of fans.....
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby sunray » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:03 pm

Ironically not opening to allow a number of season ticket holders in, saves money on stewarding, turnstile staff etc.

When the club factors in the likelihood of no paying fans for six months then they will have to look at costs and presumably there will be job losses amongst the staff which will be a shame.

Whilst the Radfords continue to back the club we will be one of the survivor through to the 2021/22 season. How many will go bust?
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby gazza1988 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:27 am

We could get our wish and be promoted. through lack of numbers. Another thought is prem teams could "save the day" by entering their own u-23s to fill up the numbers.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby sunray » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:50 pm

Hopefully the footba!l league is undertaking a complete review of the game for after the virus is under control.

North / South leagues
Penalties to play every game to a result
Allow all games to be broadcast live at normal admission prices
A regional 20/20 style competition of say 25 minutes each half with an on field 5 minute break. Followed a women game both played on Friday night Fireworks and music etc

The world is moving on football needs to update like cricket has.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:13 pm

sunray wrote:Hopefully the footba!l league is undertaking a complete review of the game for after the virus is under control.

North / South leagues
Penalties to play every game to a result
Allow all games to be broadcast live at normal admission prices
A regional 20/20 style competition of say 25 minutes each half with an on field 5 minute break. Followed a women game both played on Friday night Fireworks and music etc

The world is moving on football needs to update like cricket has.


No thanks.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby The One » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:13 pm

sunray wrote:Hopefully the footba!l league is undertaking a complete review of the game for after the virus is under control.

North / South leagues
Penalties to play every game to a result
Allow all games to be broadcast live at normal admission prices
A regional 20/20 style competition of say 25 minutes each half with an on field 5 minute break. Followed a women game both played on Friday night Fireworks and music etc

The world is moving on football needs to update like cricket has.


Thats a no from me.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby Amber Andy » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:14 pm

Hjeldefan wrote:
oldweststander wrote:
Old amber wrote:Can’t see us getting back to a match this year at least... if Boris the clown and his crazy scientists have owt to do with it.



Why do we allow stupid comments on here.

In fairness, Boris is a clown.

That remark is so unfair to Co Co :D
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby spanishstag » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:15 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:
sunray wrote:Hopefully the footba!l league is undertaking a complete review of the game for after the virus is under control.

North / South leagues
Penalties to play every game to a result
Allow all games to be broadcast live at normal admission prices
A regional 20/20 style competition of say 25 minutes each half with an on field 5 minute break. Followed a women game both played on Friday night Fireworks and music etc

The world is moving on football needs to update like cricket has.


No thanks.

I would sooner watch my beard grow ,womans football ,god just shoot me
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby BH_Stag » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:30 pm

There’s an excellent (in my opinion) open letter from the Colchester chairman on twitter outlining his concerns on the decision to pause the return of fans.

How can we be in a position where we can travel on planes, buses, tubes, trains, drink in pubs, eat in restaurants, go to indoor shopping centres, work in offices, the list goes on... and yet sitting outside in the open air, socially distanced in a controlled environment that has been pre-approved by a safety group be deemed unsafe?

I’m sure there will be people who agree with the decision to keep grounds shut, everyone has their own opinion on the matter, but to me it defies logic and clubs/communities will ultimately suffer.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby cassellswasmagic » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:06 pm

BH_Stag wrote:There’s an excellent (in my opinion) open letter from the Colchester chairman on twitter outlining his concerns on the decision to pause the return of fans.

How can we be in a position where we can travel on planes, buses, tubes, trains, drink in pubs, eat in restaurants, go to indoor shopping centres, work in offices, the list goes on... and yet sitting outside in the open air, socially distanced in a controlled environment that has been pre-approved by a safety group be deemed unsafe?

I’m sure there will be people who agree with the decision to keep grounds shut, everyone has their own opinion on the matter, but to me it defies logic and clubs/communities will ultimately suffer.

Mate, the grounds should be open to a limited capacity, simple as that. As you say, lots of other venues are open for business and are indoors. The handling of this is pretty pathetic no matter which way you look at it. Clubs are slowly dying because of it.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby Spiritater » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:49 pm

sunray wrote:Hopefully the footba!l league is undertaking a complete review of the game for after the virus is under control.

North / South leagues
Penalties to play every game to a result
Allow all games to be broadcast live at normal admission prices
A regional 20/20 style competition of say 25 minutes each half with an on field 5 minute break. Followed a women game both played on Friday night Fireworks and music etc

The world is moving on football needs to update like cricket has.

I'd be cool with that provided they played in football pitch sized paddling pool full of lime green jelly :D
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby Amberheart » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:27 pm

Spiritater wrote:
sunray wrote:Hopefully the footba!l league is undertaking a complete review of the game for after the virus is under control.

North / South leagues
Penalties to play every game to a result
Allow all games to be broadcast live at normal admission prices
A regional 20/20 style competition of say 25 minutes each half with an on field 5 minute break. Followed a women game both played on Friday night Fireworks and music etc

The world is moving on football needs to update like cricket has.

I'd be cool with that provided they played in football pitch sized paddling pool full of lime green jelly :D

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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby Dave Wayne » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:42 pm

cassellswasmagic wrote:
BH_Stag wrote:There’s an excellent (in my opinion) open letter from the Colchester chairman on twitter outlining his concerns on the decision to pause the return of fans.

How can we be in a position where we can travel on planes, buses, tubes, trains, drink in pubs, eat in restaurants, go to indoor shopping centres, work in offices, the list goes on... and yet sitting outside in the open air, socially distanced in a controlled environment that has been pre-approved by a safety group be deemed unsafe?

I’m sure there will be people who agree with the decision to keep grounds shut, everyone has their own opinion on the matter, but to me it defies logic and clubs/communities will ultimately suffer.

Mate, the grounds should be open to a limited capacity, simple as that. As you say, lots of other venues are open for business and are indoors. The handling of this is pretty pathetic no matter which way you look at it. Clubs are slowly dying because of it.

I would imagine the issue is not so much inside the grounds as around them. Other venues that are open don't have everyone turning up for a set start time so arrivals and departures are staggered. If they allowed us 20% capacity that would be nearly 2,000 people milling around at the same time which would be bad enough, but the Premiership would expect the same and would then have 8-10,000+ turning up.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby Martin Shaw » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:19 pm


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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby Martin Shaw » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:22 pm

"Four points clear as Lincoln are McCaffreyised", CHAD headline, April 1975
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:01 am

Martin Shaw wrote:


Good old Ben Bradley, his pressure has worked quickly :)
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Re: Prep for fans returning/edit-fans return set to be scrap

Postby I am Spartacus » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:27 pm

Spiritater wrote:
sunray wrote:Hopefully the footba!l league is undertaking a complete review of the game for after the virus is under control.

North / South leagues
Penalties to play every game to a result
Allow all games to be broadcast live at normal admission prices
A regional 20/20 style competition of say 25 minutes each half with an on field 5 minute break. Followed a women game both played on Friday night Fireworks and music etc

The world is moving on football needs to update like cricket has.

I'd be cool with that provided they played in football pitch sized paddling pool full of lime green jelly :D


Spiro, the tickets for the first game are on me :lol:
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Re: Prep for fans returning/fans return scrapped/bail-out

Postby part time pete » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:34 pm

I wonder what the EPL clubs will want for their £250m?

U-23 PL clubs to replace any clubs that fold like Wigan might do?
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Re: Prep for fans returning/fans return scrapped/bail-out

Postby I am Spartacus » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:45 pm

250 million? Probably in the form of a loan or advancement of monies contractually owing in the future.

Whatever the Premier League propose will be instigated mainly due to the clubs being on their knees (no offence Kier Starmer) financially and the top clubs in the Championship wanting to appease the Premier League when they get there. Also the majority of members on the EFL board are from the Championship.

2000 years ago it was 30 pieces of silver to sell you to out your colleagues. That is a hell of a rate of inflation.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/fans return scrapped/bail-out

Postby Martin Shaw » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:31 pm

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Re: Prep for fans returning/fans return scrapped/bail-out

Postby Martin Shaw » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:32 pm

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Re: Prep for fans returning/fans return scrapped/bail-out

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:17 pm

Grimsby Town chairman Philip Day has said the government’s decision to call off plans to let fans back into stadiums could cost the club as much as £250,000 this season. The Mariners have sold 1,300 season tickets.

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/spor ... ns-4539992?
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