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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Spiritater » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:28 am

ParisStag wrote:
Spiritater wrote:Thing is if we were allowed in t'Mill the players'd get ripped to bits as soon as things started to go tits up. They'd have a slight excuse. W ith no fans in t'blame for the woeful performances lays utterly and totally with them. It's time to grow a pair boys... before it's too late.


When we are all allowed back, if we don't immediately get 5000 in the ground are you going to berate the lack of support? ;)

Wondering whether Covid has scuppered your apathy narrative :D

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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby ParisStag » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:34 am

Spiritater wrote:
ParisStag wrote:
Spiritater wrote:Thing is if we were allowed in t'Mill the players'd get ripped to bits as soon as things started to go tits up. They'd have a slight excuse. W ith no fans in t'blame for the woeful performances lays utterly and totally with them. It's time to grow a pair boys... before it's too late.


When we are all allowed back, if we don't immediately get 5000 in the ground are you going to berate the lack of support? ;)

Wondering whether Covid has scuppered your apathy narrative :D

Bit random paris :roll:


Sorry, wasn't meant as a dig. Light-hearted hence the emojis :D in the words of Richard Keys "it was just banter"
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby manssmooth » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:45 am

Spiritater wrote:Thing is if we were allowed in t'Mill the players'd get ripped to bits as soon as things started to go tits up. They'd have a slight excuse. W ith no fans in t'blame for the woeful performances lays utterly and totally with them. It's time to grow a pair boys... before it's too late.


I think that's a given me owd spiro :)
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Martin Shaw » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:16 pm

Premier League and EFL agree rescue package

League Two clubs will receive a minimum payment of £250,000.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55172426
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby part time pete » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:19 pm

I also see that clubs have to do a trial or pilot match with only 1,000 fans before they can do a 2,000 fan game.

Cambridge and Carlisle did a 1000 fan cup game in September.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:04 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:Premier League and EFL agree rescue package

League Two clubs will receive a minimum payment of £250,000.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55172426


Well that would appear to guarantee the survival of clubs through the pandemic and ensure that relegations are down to on field performance only. It’s the best way for things to be decided and should be welcomed by everyone.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Martin Shaw » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:56 pm

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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby bellwhiff » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:05 pm

Good as apparently this means we are free to get players in in Jan and that is very important
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Sedgwick » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:43 pm

bellwhiff wrote:Good as apparently this means we are free to get players in in Jan and that is very important


Big advantage to us
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby NorthLondonStag » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:01 pm

From EFL website:

"The relief package will provide a combined fund of £50million for League One and League Two Clubs, with £30million to be paid to all 48 Clubs as a grant and a further £20million available on application as a ‘monitored grant’.

Details are as follows:

A £30million grant to be paid immediately from the Premier League to EFL Clubs for distribution based on lost gate receipts in respect of the 2019/20 and 2020/21 Season.

Each Club will receive a minimum payment of £375,000 in League One and £250,000 in League Two.

The remaining £15m to be distributed using a lost gate revenue share calculation, which will be approved by both the EFL and the Premier League.

In addition, a further £20m ‘Monitored Grant’ is to be provided with Clubs able to apply for it based on ‘need’, with a joint EFL and Premier League panel to determine Club eligibility.

Clubs subsequently in receipt of a ‘monitored grant’ will be subject to certain restrictions, in respect to transfer spend and player wages.

Clubs who keep to the restrictions will not have to repay any of the funding required, whereas for Clubs in breach, the ‘monitored grant’ becomes repayable by the Club.

Any Club in receipt of a grant or monitored grant payment will be required to continue to maintain compliance with the EFL’s financial regulations."
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby chip63 » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:48 pm

Sedgwick wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:Good as apparently this means we are free to get players in in Jan and that is very important


Big advantage to us


Not sure how much we have left in the pot, hopefully the cup run is going to help towards the amount allowed to spend.
Also does Cloughs wages count towards the financial regulation.

It wouldn't bother me if we didn't buy anyone in January, just the thought of our first home game with a large crowd to welcome Clough to our club.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Sedgwick » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:23 pm

chip63 wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:Good as apparently this means we are free to get players in in Jan and that is very important


Big advantage to us


Not sure how much we have left in the pot, hopefully the cup run is going to help towards the amount allowed to spend.
Also does Cloughs wages count towards the financial regulation.

It wouldn't bother me if we didn't buy anyone in January, just the thought of our first home game with a large crowd to welcome Clough to our club.


I think going of cloughs comments we will sign one or two, pretty sure he's said we will need to add in Jan
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Martin Shaw » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:05 pm

for anyone who can't listen to the Sharpe interview, I've transcribed key bits:

David Sharpe told David Jackson on BBC Radio Nottingham, Fri 4 Dec 2020:

"It's very much appreciated, £250,000 from the Premier League. The rest, if we do receive more than that, is dependent on the calculations that the league come up with, ie. loss of gate revenue against certain costs.

"It's great that the Premier League have helped League One and League Two out.

"Reading the strings that are attached to a monitored grant, we probably will not be applying for that. If we did apply, it limits what you can do in transfer windows, it limits the wages you can spend, everything is controlled, and we wouldn't be running the football club how we'd want to.

"The £250,000 goes a long way. But we will still have lost a lot of money

"Normally we would do half a million plus in season ticket sales and another half a million in matchday sales and hospitality, beer sales, food sales etc. So we are down, but it's certainly a big help.

"We're trying to limit costs while bringing in as much revenue as possible.

"If we do get moved tiers, we'll do our utmost to get our fans back in as soon as possible, in a safe manner.

"We are ready, we've been talking about it for some time.

"We do have season tickets holders who want to return, some may not want to return, some may feel they don't want to risk it. So we have to find out of the 1600 season ticket holders we have we need to find out how many want to come.

"The first step would be a pilot event."

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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby acasman » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:16 am

I was disappointed but not really surprised to see the fans on the terraces at cambridge completely ignoring the social distancing rules. The seating arrangements seemed fine.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Sedgwick » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:21 am

acasman wrote:I was disappointed but not really surprised to see the fans on the terraces at cambridge completely ignoring the social distancing rules. The seating arrangements seemed fine.


Wonder if they will be pulled up on it? Bit of a piss take that not every club can have fans and the ones that do aren't following the rules to keep people safe.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:38 am

This is one of the main dangers of letting fans return and is the footballing equivalent of student parties. If this group are the season ticket holders, what’s it going to be like when the also rans are allowed in?

I can understand how easy it must be to group together but it will be counterproductive if social distancing is seen as being ignored. If owners want bigger crowds they must be proactive in enforcing the rules.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Captain Cunno » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:55 am

Should only open seated stands in my view.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:56 am

Captain Cunno wrote:Should only open seated stands in my view.


Absolutely. Seats have structure and you can put people in the right places. I couldn’t believe that they’d opened a terrace. The lack of distancing was very clear and poor.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Sedgwick » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:49 am

Captain Cunno wrote:Should only open seated stands in my view.


Yep the % or 2000 fans which ever is lower rule should apply to seated capacity only.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Bros » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:34 pm

Reading on the box now with fans have the same infection rate as Mansfield
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby robbingdog » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:42 pm

The whole thing is a shambles

Footballers sit in the stands with their masks on, then they
come off the bench and go hugging everyone

It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby The One » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:43 pm

Bros wrote:Reading on the box now with fans have the same infection rate as Mansfield


Wonder if its because they in south.MK rates treble ours yet fans allowed.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:50 pm

The One wrote:
Bros wrote:Reading on the box now with fans have the same infection rate as Mansfield


Wonder if its because they in south.MK rates treble ours yet fans allowed.

Oh do pack it in. MK is in the south so that’s shot you in the foot.

What’s the rate in Berkshire compared to Notts?
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby part time pete » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:03 pm

Reading and Mansfield both 145 per 100,000. England average 129.

MK 153.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby The One » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:04 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
The One wrote:
Bros wrote:Reading on the box now with fans have the same infection rate as Mansfield


Wonder if its because they in south.MK rates treble ours yet fans allowed.

Oh do pack it in. MK is in the south so that’s shot you in the foot.

What’s the rate in Berkshire compared to Notts?


Errr I know MK is in the south.
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