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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby part time pete » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:50 pm

Surely just letting in numbers equivalent to the number of season ticket holders at the Stags would have no financial benefit at all this season.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Sneag » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:57 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:from Lee Anderson MP facebook page

Come On You Stags.
Today I asked the Minister to consider allowing more fans into grounds based on their capacity. For example Stags would need around 2,000 fans in to really help the club stay afloat.
I reckon its much safer in a football ground than certain supermarkets.
Got told off for wearing my Stags scarf.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Reg Holdsworth » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:05 pm

part time pete wrote:Surely just letting in numbers equivalent to the number of season ticket holders at the Stags would have no financial benefit at all this season.



It would presumably have a negative financial effect as the club would incur the additional match day costs of stewards, turnstile operators, cleaners etc.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Dan » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:14 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:from Lee Anderson MP facebook page

Come On You Stags.
Today I asked the Minister to consider allowing more fans into grounds based on their capacity. For example Stags would need around 2,000 fans in to really help the club stay afloat.
I reckon its much safer in a football ground than certain supermarkets.
Got told off for wearing my Stags scarf.
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https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=sea ... 20anderson


Can you keep politics off the main board please, there's a forum for that ;)
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Martin Shaw » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:38 pm

Premier League and EFL 'close' over bailout, says Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55008860
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby groundhoppingstag » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:50 pm

part time pete wrote:Surely just letting in numbers equivalent to the number of season ticket holders at the Stags would have no financial benefit at all this season.


Correct but surely that is the way to start solving this issue.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Dave Wayne » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:40 pm

Dan wrote:
Martin Shaw wrote:from Lee Anderson MP facebook page

Come On You Stags.
Today I asked the Minister to consider allowing more fans into grounds based on their capacity. For example Stags would need around 2,000 fans in to really help the club stay afloat.
I reckon its much safer in a football ground than certain supermarkets.
Got told off for wearing my Stags scarf.
COYS

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https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=sea ... 20anderson


Can you keep politics off the main board please, there's a forum for that ;)

Lot's of showboating by both our local MPs about the Stags, but just out of interest, has anyone ever seen either of them at a game ?
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Dan » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:58 pm

Dave Wayne wrote:
Dan wrote:
Martin Shaw wrote:from Lee Anderson MP facebook page

Come On You Stags.
Today I asked the Minister to consider allowing more fans into grounds based on their capacity. For example Stags would need around 2,000 fans in to really help the club stay afloat.
I reckon its much safer in a football ground than certain supermarkets.
Got told off for wearing my Stags scarf.
COYS

video here -->

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=sea ... 20anderson


Can you keep politics off the main board please, there's a forum for that ;)

Lot's of showboating by both our local MPs about the Stags, but just out of interest, has anyone ever seen either of them at a game ?


Exactly what I’ve said on the thread above that Martin posted. Only time they come is when they get a freebie.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Martin Shaw » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:02 am

I've seen Bradley at numerous Stags home games, as guests of John & Carolyn or other directors. I seem to recall he'd been at an away game or two as well, from his facebook page (MK Dons springs to mind).

I've never seen Anderson at a game. Then again I wouldn't have recognised him until a year or so ago.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Rob » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:21 am

Martin Shaw wrote:I've seen Bradley at numerous Stags home games, as guests of John & Carolyn or other directors. I seem to recall he'd been at an away game or two as well, from his facebook page (MK Dons springs to mind).

I've never seen Anderson at a game. Then again I wouldn't have recognised him until a year or so ago.


Alan Meale used to attend games too, he too was a complete and utter raspberry. I'd love to know when Mansfield (or Ashfield) last had an MP of any persuasion who genuinely gave a flying toss about our club ....... I'm sure some of the oldies on here might know of one, but not in my lifetime. The current MP is an embarrassment to the town, as was his predecessor.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby chip63 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:26 am

groundhoppingstag wrote:
part time pete wrote:Surely just letting in numbers equivalent to the number of season ticket holders at the Stags would have no financial benefit at all this season.


Correct but surely that is the way to start solving this issue.


i think its regarding having to give back the monies payed for season tickets, if no games played with fans watching.
It's probably a massive problem to a lot of other clubs, I wouldn't think so much ours.
Season tickets holders are a massive income for any club and should rightly be looked after.
I'm sure the Radfords would love for our season ticket holders to be allowed in, even at a loss.
Next season could see the highest sales for many a year.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Bradders » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:09 am

Rob wrote:
Martin Shaw wrote:I've seen Bradley at numerous Stags home games, as guests of John & Carolyn or other directors. I seem to recall he'd been at an away game or two as well, from his facebook page (MK Dons springs to mind).

I've never seen Anderson at a game. Then again I wouldn't have recognised him until a year or so ago.


Alan Meale used to attend games too, he too was a complete and utter raspberry. I'd love to know when Mansfield (or Ashfield) last had an MP of any persuasion who genuinely gave a flying toss about our club ....... I'm sure some of the oldies on here might know of one, but not in my lifetime. The current MP is an embarrassment to the town, as was his predecessor.

I agree with all that. I get the impression that Mansfield and Ashfield are regarded as the Craggy Island of politics, where the crankiest MPs can be left to do no real harm. Actually I'd rather that MPs keep a low profile if they really must attend matches, instead of pretending to be a massive fan of the club. It's a bit cringeworthy.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Dan » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:41 am

Bradders wrote:
Rob wrote:
Martin Shaw wrote:I've seen Bradley at numerous Stags home games, as guests of John & Carolyn or other directors. I seem to recall he'd been at an away game or two as well, from his facebook page (MK Dons springs to mind).

I've never seen Anderson at a game. Then again I wouldn't have recognised him until a year or so ago.


Alan Meale used to attend games too, he too was a complete and utter raspberry. I'd love to know when Mansfield (or Ashfield) last had an MP of any persuasion who genuinely gave a flying toss about our club ....... I'm sure some of the oldies on here might know of one, but not in my lifetime. The current MP is an embarrassment to the town, as was his predecessor.

I agree with all that. I get the impression that Mansfield and Ashfield are regarded as the Craggy Island of politics, where the crankiest MPs can be left to do no real harm. Actually I'd rather that MPs keep a low profile if they really must attend matches, instead of pretending to be a massive fan of the club. It's a bit cringeworthy.


Agree 100%. Him wearing our scarf like that to score a few brownie points was embarrassing, cringeworthy and also completely backfired and made him look like the unprofessional clown that he is.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby london amber stag » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:56 pm

Ben Bradley masquerading as a Mansfield fan is embarrassing, every time he opens his mouth publicly he is trending on Twitter, one gaffe after another.
I do not want him representing my club.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Gazmoose82 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:17 pm

No chance fans will be back until next season imo.

But season tickets will sell well for 21/22 with the nigel factor in place :D
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Bradders » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:24 pm

Gazmoose82 wrote:No chance fans will be back until next season imo.

But season tickets will sell well for 21/22 with the nigel factor in place :D

It looks like a vaccine rollout will begin in January and although it won't instantly lead to restrictions being lifted, there will come a point where the close down becomes a bit worthless. And we don't have to wait until everyone has had immunisation.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Bros » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:52 pm

Gazmoose82 wrote:No chance fans will be back until next season imo.

But season tickets will sell well for 21/22 with the nigel factor in place :D

Will you be getting a ST or wil you be continuing to watch the games for free and denying the club its rightful revenue
I am just going inside and may be gone some time
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Phill » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:59 pm

Bros wrote:
Gazmoose82 wrote:No chance fans will be back until next season imo.

But season tickets will sell well for 21/22 with the nigel factor in place :D

Will you be getting a ST or wil you be continuing to watch the games for free and denying the club its rightful revenue



OUCH!!! Great question..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Dave Wayne » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:08 pm

Bradders wrote:
Gazmoose82 wrote:No chance fans will be back until next season imo.

But season tickets will sell well for 21/22 with the nigel factor in place :D

It looks like a vaccine rollout will begin in January and although it won't instantly lead to restrictions being lifted, there will come a point where the close down becomes a bit worthless. And we don't have to wait until everyone has had immunisation.

Most experts are saying that the vaccination programme will take between 6 months and a year to complete.
While the government are happily telling us how many millions of vaccines they have procured, what they aren't telling us is the timescales involved in the production of the vaccine and the supply chains.
The WHO will be working closely with the vaccine producers to ensure it is available equally to all countries, not just to those who are prepared to pay more for it.
The first batches will be used to vaccinate essential health care workers, the second phase will be over 65s and high risk/vulnerable people, and then it will start to roll out to the rest of the population.
What this means is that no country will receive vaccines for phase 2 until all countries have had enough supplies to complete phase 1.
Therefore, it is highly likely that even if a vaccination programme starts in the UK in January, the football season will be over before we have acceptable levels of vaccinated people in the UK to return to anything like normal.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Gazmoose82 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:37 pm

Bros wrote:
Gazmoose82 wrote:No chance fans will be back until next season imo.

But season tickets will sell well for 21/22 with the nigel factor in place :D

Will you be getting a ST or wil you be continuing to watch the games for free and denying the club its rightful revenue


Season tickets for me and the boy... Watch the away games for free :D

Happy medium
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby West Ham 1969 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:17 pm

Rob wrote:
Martin Shaw wrote:I've seen Bradley at numerous Stags home games, as guests of John & Carolyn or other directors. I seem to recall he'd been at an away game or two as well, from his facebook page (MK Dons springs to mind).

I've never seen Anderson at a game. Then again I wouldn't have recognised him until a year or so ago.


Alan Meale used to attend games too, he too was a complete and utter raspberry. I'd love to know when Mansfield (or Ashfield) last had an MP of any persuasion who genuinely gave a flying toss about our club ....... I'm sure some of the oldies on here might know of one, but not in my lifetime. The current MP is an embarrassment to the town, as was his predecessor.


I was sat on the same row as Ben at MK last season. He was wearing his Stags shirt and was with his mates.

Works his socks off for Mansfield and best MP we have had in my memory. Has my full support...keep it up Ben.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby geoffhill » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:13 pm

I disliked Alan Meale.{Haslams Mate}.I like Ben bradley a very personable guy.A Stags supporter as well.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby part time pete » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:55 pm

Just going to one away game (ieMKDons), is just jumping on the band wagon.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Bradders » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:14 pm

Dave Wayne wrote:
Bradders wrote:
Gazmoose82 wrote:No chance fans will be back until next season imo.

But season tickets will sell well for 21/22 with the nigel factor in place :D

It looks like a vaccine rollout will begin in January and although it won't instantly lead to restrictions being lifted, there will come a point where the close down becomes a bit worthless. And we don't have to wait until everyone has had immunisation.

Most experts are saying that the vaccination programme will take between 6 months and a year to complete.
While the government are happily telling us how many millions of vaccines they have procured, what they aren't telling us is the timescales involved in the production of the vaccine and the supply chains.
The WHO will be working closely with the vaccine producers to ensure it is available equally to all countries, not just to those who are prepared to pay more for it.
The first batches will be used to vaccinate essential health care workers, the second phase will be over 65s and high risk/vulnerable people, and then it will start to roll out to the rest of the population.
What this means is that no country will receive vaccines for phase 2 until all countries have had enough supplies to complete phase 1.
Therefore, it is highly likely that even if a vaccination programme starts in the UK in January, the football season will be over before we have acceptable levels of vaccinated people in the UK to return to anything like normal.

We don't actually need that many vaccinations to be able to drop most restrictions. I doubt that we'll attempt to vaccinate everyone, something like 60% will be enough. And production started some months ago, so there should be plenty available in January. Prioritising the right groups will make things fairly safe quite quickly, and I can't see football stadiums still being forced to stay empty once the first phase of vaccination is well underway.
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Re: Prep for fans returning/bail-out/Project big picture etc

Postby Amber Andy » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:52 pm

Bradders wrote:
Dave Wayne wrote:
Bradders wrote:
Gazmoose82 wrote:No chance fans will be back until next season imo.

But season tickets will sell well for 21/22 with the nigel factor in place :D

It looks like a vaccine rollout will begin in January and although it won't instantly lead to restrictions being lifted, there will come a point where the close down becomes a bit worthless. And we don't have to wait until everyone has had immunisation.

Most experts are saying that the vaccination programme will take between 6 months and a year to complete.
While the government are happily telling us how many millions of vaccines they have procured, what they aren't telling us is the timescales involved in the production of the vaccine and the supply chains.
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The first batches will be used to vaccinate essential health care workers, the second phase will be over 65s and high risk/vulnerable people, and then it will start to roll out to the rest of the population.
What this means is that no country will receive vaccines for phase 2 until all countries have had enough supplies to complete phase 1.
Therefore, it is highly likely that even if a vaccination programme starts in the UK in January, the football season will be over before we have acceptable levels of vaccinated people in the UK to return to anything like normal.

We don't actually need that many vaccinations to be able to drop most restrictions. I doubt that we'll attempt to vaccinate everyone, something like 60% will be enough. And production started some months ago, so there should be plenty available in January. Prioritising the right groups will make things fairly safe quite quickly, and I can't see football stadiums still being forced to stay empty once the first phase of vaccination is well underway.
First wave will be NHS and key workers ( quite rightly ). Then care home residents and the vulnerable. Seems it will be the end of the current season before the masses will receive their jabs. With regard to supporters in football stadia, I can't see it happening this season.
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