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Leyton Orient Saturday preview

Postby Sweden Stag » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:14 am

The charge of inept ownership inside and just outside the EFL has once again proved disastrous. In the recent past, our next opponents Leyton Orient suffered inasmuch as they inside a few seasons dropped from being on the verge of a return to the current Championship for the first time since 1981-82 at the end of the 2013-14 season to dropping out of the EFL in 2017, only to return last season and stay in League Two.

This week, a club both sides faced last season went out of business. The tale is of Macclesfield Town, whose on- and off-the-field problems last campaign which resulted in numerous points deductions and demotion from League Two ended up in being wound up. Last season, Bury were thrown out of League One, and by the way, the previewer even remembers when the old Accrington club resigned from the then Fourth Division in the early sixties. Other clubs which went out of business include the old clubs in Aldershot, Maidstone, Chester, Halifax and Hereford to name a few.

Yet on the field, the Stags started the campaign with a goal-less home against Tranmere Rovers, which could have been a three-points. But the Stags display deserved three points last Saturday. But Leyton Orient snatched all points thanks to a late winner at Oldham Athletic, and followed that victory up by coming from 2-0 down to throw Plymouth Argyle out of the League Cup to a 3-2 scoreline after a late winning goal (again), earning the East Londoners a home tie against Tottenham Hotspur.

Last season, Leyton Orient won both games against the Stags, contrary to the games in 2016-17. More in the Match Centre.

From the Leyton Orient line-up against the Stags in 2016-17, which fielded two ex-Stags in form of Nicky Hunt and Ollie Palmer, latter the scorer of our first FL goal back in the League at Wycombe in August 2013, none is now at the Londoners although a few players still are in the League (Palmer now at AFC Wimbledon to name one) while Hunt has signed for Darlington in National League North. Out of the then Stags’ players, White, Pearce, Benning, Hamilton and Rose all starred last season. Pearce and Benning started at Brisbane Road in August 2016, while Hamilton came on as sub seeing Matt Green hit a late winner.

The games in the 2016-17 season were to be the Stags’ first-ever double against the Londoners under different names over the years dating way back from the Stags’ inaugural FL season in 1931-32 as the Stags early on in the 2016-17 season recorded a rare victory, to the tune of 2-1 despite missing a penalty, at Brisbane Road. That one was only the Stags’ fourth away win at Leyton Orient of all time. The one in 2016 proved to be a pointer for the Londoners, who went on to lose eight straight home fixtures. Leyton Orient went on to lose eighteen home games, winning just four, but their last one then proved to the one which consigned Hartlepool to follow Leyton O into the non-league doldrums.

A sharp contrast to the 2013-14 campaign in which the O’s long time were sitting in the League One promotion zone, finally narrow losing out on Championship promotion by losing on penalties to Rotherham in the playoff final. Since then, Leyton Orient slid rapidly and dramatically enduring loads of managerial changes since the sacking of Russell Slade in September 2014.

The boss who steered Leyton Orient back into the League was Justin Edinburgh, who sadly passed away one month after the O’s EFL return. That might have had an impact on the Londoners, who axed Carl Fletcher after just 29 days. The interim manager following Edinburgh’s sad passing, Ross Embleton, is now current boss at Leyton Orient. Edinburgh also masterminded the promotion of Newport County in 2013 after making wonders at Rushden & Diamonds a few years earlier before they busted.

The Londoners are best known as FA-Cup giant killers, i.e. reaching the semi-finals way back in 1977-78, the Stags’ only season in the old 2nd division, where Orient, as their name was then, were one of our opponents. In the final home game that season on April 29, 1978 in front of 6,336, Sandy Pate scored his last league goal for the Stags in a 1-1 draw which was essential for the Londoners in their eventual successful fight against the drop. But in London, Orient as usual won the home fixture. Then to a 4-2-scoreline at Brisbane Road on December 3, 1977.

The “O’s”, who played a single season in the old first division in 1962-63, the Stags’ first promotion one, have done a couple of name swappings in their previous League history, being elected to the old 2nd division in 1905 as Clapton Orient. Just after World War II, they changed their name to Leyton Orient. During the 1966-67 season, they swapped their name to simply “Orient”. And in 1987, they changed their name back to Leyton Orient. As a result of this, the Stags have faced Leyton Orient under all their three names and the Londoners also faced the Stags in their first-ever league season in 1931-32. And the first home game was won 4-3 on January 16, 1932 in front of 6,719 who saw Weightman, Bowater, Johnson (2) as Stags scorers, and in fact the “O’s” faced the Stags in all their div 3 (S) seasons.

At home, the Stags have twice beaten the Londoners with a three-goal margin. The first was a 4-1 on December 27, 1969, inflicting the eventual div 3 Champs their biggest defeat that season, Stags goals Roberts D 2, Stenson and an own goal watched by 7828. The second was a 3-0 on March 23, 1993 due to McCloughlin hitting the target twice and Withe netting once attended by 2776, thus gaining revenge for the Stags’ biggest-ever defeat against the Londoners, a 1-5 hammering away on November 28, 1992. Another four-goal-margin rout inflicted was the Stags’ first-ever FL defeat, a 4-0 on September 5, 1931, but revenge was gained a couple of months later (see above). The home game on May 31, 1947, lost 1-3 with Chessell scoring for the Stags seen by 4412, must be the latest date ever for a league home game in Stags League history. And the 0-2 on March 15, 1969, was the Stags first home league game after the famous FA Cup exploits reaching the quarter-finals in the 1968-69 season.

Brisbane Road, or Leyton Stadium as the ground of the “O”s also is called, has never been a happy hunting ground for the Stags over the years as only three of the previous league outings in London before August 2016 had been won.

Here they were:

* On September 25, 1937, two goals from Crawshaw, then upping his tally to eight out of 25, helped the Stags to seal a 2-1 victory over Clapton Orient in front of 8590 spectators

*The 1985-86 season was Orient’s first-ever in the basement. On February 15, 1986, the Stags picked up a very crucial 1-0 win with Hitchcock saving a penalty near the end and Kent moments later hitting the only goal which secured the third consecutive away win during a spell that saw the Stags win eight games out of nine. The Orient side then included former Stags loanee Ian Juryeff, the much-travelled striker who 1983 scored 15 times in 19 games for then Swedish 4th division side IFK Munkfors, only about 40 miles north of the previewer’s home town. Juryeff is one of a few former Stags players which have played in Sweden.

* The last away win at Leyton Orient before 2016 was a 3-1 on March 4, 2000 (goals by Darrell Clarke, Chris Greenacre and an own-goal) watched by 4281. So all Mansfield’s away wins at Brisbane Road have been achieved under all of Leyton Orient’s different names! (Clapton Orient in 1937, Orient in 1986, Leyton Orient in 2000 and on August 27, 2016).

The teams also met in the 2001-02 season, when the home fixture attended by 5,168 was won 3-2 thanks to goals from Disley, Williamson and Greenacre but the away one was lost 2-0. The Leyton Orient side in March 2002 included Iyseden Christie, one of several players having appeared for both sides. One player having appeared for both sides was not mentioned on the history CD a decade ago. The name: Darren Rowbotham. He played four games for the Stags on loan from Birmingham during the 1992-93 season. He played six games for Leyton Orient, two of those as sub, on loan from Exeter City, during November-December 1999. Other players having appeared for both sides include the scorer of our winner at Chesterfield in September 2013, Calvin Andrew, and the scorer of our first FL goal back in the FL, Ollie Palmer (at Wycombe). More recently, Nicky Hunt appeared for both sides as have Shaquile Coulthirst and last season Lee Angol. And two of our latest recruits, Jordan Bowery and goalkeeper Marek Štěch, has previous Leyton Orient playing experience

Played for both sides: James Alabi, Calvin Andrew, Lee Angol, Adam Barrett, Jordan Bowery, Eric Bryant, Reginald Bungay, Iyseden Christie, Paul Connor, Wayne Corden, Shaquile Coulthirst, Stephen Dawson, Eddie Edmonds, Greg Fee, Ernie Gillatt, Warren Hackett, Darius Henderson, Stuart Hicks, Nicky Hunt, Dai Jones (left full back), Ian Juryeff, Martin Ling, Allan Livingstone, Michael Marks, James McGeorge, Luke O’Neill, Ollie Palmer, Mark Peters, Samuel Robinson, Ted Roseboom, Darren Rowbotham, Jamie Sendles-White, Mark Smalley, Marek Štěch, Soloman Taiwo, Chris Tate.

Home stats: P 26, W 9, D 10, L 7, GF 35, GA 29
Away stats: P 26, W 4, D 4, L 18, GF 23, GA 50

Season Home Date Away Date

1931-32 4-3 1932-01-16 0-4 1931-09-05 Div 3 (S) as Clapton Orient
1937-38 3-1 1938-02-05 2-1 1937-09-25 Div 3 (S) as Clapton Orient
1938-39 1-0 1939-04-08 0-0 1938-12-03 Div 3 (S) as Clapton Orient
1946-47 1-3 1947-05-31 1-3 1946-10-12 Div 3 (S) as Clapton Orient
1966-67 1-1 1967-04-22 2-4 1967-05-12 Div 3 (old) as Leyton Orient
1967-68 0-0 1968-04-16 0-0 1968-04-15 Div 3 (old) as Orient
1968-69 0-2 1969-03-15 0-1 1968-08-24 Div 3 (old) as Orient
1969-70 4-1 1969-12-27 0-1 1969-08-30 Div 3 (old) as Orient
1977-78 1-1 1978-04-29 2-4 1977-12-03 Div 2 (old) as Orient
1985-86 1-1 1985-09-18 1-0 1986-02-15 Div 4 (old) as Orient
1989-90 1-0 1990-02-24 1-3 1989-11-25 Div 3 (old) as Leyton Orient
1990-91 3-3 1991-04-16 1-2 1990-09-08 Div 3 (old) as Leyton Orient
1992-93 3-0 1993-03-23 1-5 1992-11-28 Div 2 as Leyton Orient
1995-96 0-0 1995-08-19 0-1 1996-01-13 Div 3 as Leyton Orient
1996-97 0-2 1996-09-14 1-2 1997-01-04 Div 3 as Leyton Orient
1997-98 0-0 1997-11-29 2-2 1998-04-04 Div 3 as Leyton Orient
1998-99 1-2 1999-02-13 1-1 1998-09-08 Div 3 as Leyton Orient
1999-00 1-1 1999-09-11 3-1 2000-03-04 Div 3 as Leyton Orient
2000-01 2-0 2001-04-21 1-2 2000-11-04 Div 3 as Leyton Orient
2001-02 3-2 2001-10-05 0-2 2002-03-19 Div 3 as Leyton Orient
2003-04 1-1 2003-08-16 1-3 2004-01-17 Div 3 as Leyton Orient
2004-05 0-1 2004-11-27 1-2 2005-05-07 League 2 as Leyton Orient
2005-06 0-1 2006-04-15 1-3 2005-10-01 League 2 as Leyton Orient
2015-16 1-1 2015-12-12 0-1 2016-04-30 League 2 as Leyton Orient
2016-17 2-0 2017-01-28 2-1 2016-08-27 League 2 as Leyton Orient
2019-20 2-3 2019-08-20 1-2 2020-02-11 League 2 as Leyton Orient

No cup games have so far ever been played between the sides in any cup competition.

At least a point should be nice on Saturday. Come on Mansfield!
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Re: Leyton Orient Saturday preview

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:47 pm

Chris Timons also played for Orient.
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