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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Dave Wayne » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:51 am

chip63 wrote:Over 67 million people in the uk have not got or had the virus.
I try saying this to myself but I'm still very weary of going out and about.
The app to tell you when your near a hot spot is essential for confidence to return.

Over 67 million people have not had a positive test for the virus is a more correct statement.
Don't forget that during the peak of the epidemic in the UK testing wasn't available for most people. The only ones tested were hospital admissions, so all those who suffered at home as per the self-isolation guidance have never been diagnosed and do not show on any official figures. Testing became available for all key workers during May, and then for all members of the population in June.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby oldweststander » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:16 am

Dave Wayne wrote:
chip63 wrote:Over 67 million people in the uk have not got or had the virus.
I try saying this to myself but I'm still very weary of going out and about.
The app to tell you when your near a hot spot is essential for confidence to return.

Over 67 million people have not had a positive test for the virus is a more correct statement.
Don't forget that during the peak of the epidemic in the UK testing wasn't available for most people. The only ones tested were hospital admissions, so all those who suffered at home as per the self-isolation guidance have never been diagnosed and do not show on any official figures. Testing became available for all key workers during May, and then for all members of the population in June.



Providing they displayed symptoms, a recent study has shown that possibly as many as 20% of infected people do not display any symptoms but were carriers. So the wearing of face covering by those people would help all those they come into contact with and as we don't know who those carriers are it would be a good idea foe all to wear face coverings in enclosed spaces.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:01 pm

oldweststander wrote:
Dave Wayne wrote:
chip63 wrote:Over 67 million people in the uk have not got or had the virus.
I try saying this to myself but I'm still very weary of going out and about.
The app to tell you when your near a hot spot is essential for confidence to return.

Over 67 million people have not had a positive test for the virus is a more correct statement.
Don't forget that during the peak of the epidemic in the UK testing wasn't available for most people. The only ones tested were hospital admissions, so all those who suffered at home as per the self-isolation guidance have never been diagnosed and do not show on any official figures. Testing became available for all key workers during May, and then for all members of the population in June.



Providing they displayed symptoms, a recent study has shown that possibly as many as 20% of infected people do not display any symptoms but were carriers. So the wearing of face covering by those people would help all those they come into contact with and as we don't know who those carriers are it would be a good idea foe all to wear face coverings in enclosed spaces.
I think what you say about wearing face coverings ows is a sensible measure. The problem is a lot of people mess about with their face coverings. How many do you see walking around with the face masks around their necks before entering a shop. They can easily transfer any germs from the mask onto their hands. Washing hands frequently and often is the still the best measure. Thankfully, since the advent of covid 19 hand washing standards have improved.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Dave Wayne » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:25 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
oldweststander wrote:
Dave Wayne wrote:
chip63 wrote:Over 67 million people in the uk have not got or had the virus.
I try saying this to myself but I'm still very weary of going out and about.
The app to tell you when your near a hot spot is essential for confidence to return.

Over 67 million people have not had a positive test for the virus is a more correct statement.
Don't forget that during the peak of the epidemic in the UK testing wasn't available for most people. The only ones tested were hospital admissions, so all those who suffered at home as per the self-isolation guidance have never been diagnosed and do not show on any official figures. Testing became available for all key workers during May, and then for all members of the population in June.



Providing they displayed symptoms, a recent study has shown that possibly as many as 20% of infected people do not display any symptoms but were carriers. So the wearing of face covering by those people would help all those they come into contact with and as we don't know who those carriers are it would be a good idea foe all to wear face coverings in enclosed spaces.
I think what you say about wearing face coverings ows is a sensible measure. The problem is a lot of people mess about with their face coverings. How many do you see walking around with the face masks around their necks before entering a shop. They can easily transfer any germs from the mask onto their hands. Washing hands frequently and often is the still the best measure. Thankfully, since the advent of covid 19 hand washing standards have improved.

Washing hands frequently is without doubt the best measure to avoid transferring the virus to yourself.
If people choose to 'mess about' with their face coverings the person they are putting at risk most is themself. As long as they are wearing it in enclosed spaces and in close contact with other people they are reducing the risk of transmitting to other people if they are carrying the virus. Studies have shown that an infected person not wearing a mask has a 70% chance of passing the virus to a mask wearer. If the infected person is wearing a mask and the other person isn't it drops to 5% risk, and if both are wearing masks the risk drops to just 1.5%. The sooner our government catches up with the majority of the world and pushes for people to wear masks in public places, the quicker we will see infection rates fall and have more chance of a return to normality.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:46 pm

Dave Wayne wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
oldweststander wrote:
Dave Wayne wrote:
chip63 wrote:Over 67 million people in the uk have not got or had the virus.
I try saying this to myself but I'm still very weary of going out and about.
The app to tell you when your near a hot spot is essential for confidence to return.

Over 67 million people have not had a positive test for the virus is a more correct statement.
Don't forget that during the peak of the epidemic in the UK testing wasn't available for most people. The only ones tested were hospital admissions, so all those who suffered at home as per the self-isolation guidance have never been diagnosed and do not show on any official figures. Testing became available for all key workers during May, and then for all members of the population in June.



Providing they displayed symptoms, a recent study has shown that possibly as many as 20% of infected people do not display any symptoms but were carriers. So the wearing of face covering by those people would help all those they come into contact with and as we don't know who those carriers are it would be a good idea foe all to wear face coverings in enclosed spaces.
I think what you say about wearing face coverings ows is a sensible measure. The problem is a lot of people mess about with their face coverings. How many do you see walking around with the face masks around their necks before entering a shop. They can easily transfer any germs from the mask onto their hands. Washing hands frequently and often is the still the best measure. Thankfully, since the advent of covid 19 hand washing standards have improved.

Washing hands frequently is without doubt the best measure to avoid transferring the virus to yourself.
If people choose to 'mess about' with their face coverings the person they are putting at risk most is themself. As long as they are wearing it in enclosed spaces and in close contact with other people they are reducing the risk of transmitting to other people if they are carrying the virus. Studies have shown that an infected person not wearing a mask has a 70% chance of passing the virus to a mask wearer. If the infected person is wearing a mask and the other person isn't it drops to 5% risk, and if both are wearing masks the risk drops to just 1.5%. The sooner our government catches up with the majority of the world and pushes for people to wear masks in public places, the quicker we will see infection rates fall and have more chance of a return to normality.
Those statistics makes wearing a mask a no brainer. Michael Gove has said today they won't make it compulsory in shops. They will probably change their minds again in a week or two.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby chip63 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:31 pm

I was the only person in halfords this morning wearing a mask.
None of the staff either.
Did make me feel safer no matter what the percentage of risk.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Dan » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:58 pm

With the bodge job the Torys have made from the start I’d do the complete opposite to whatever they tell you because you know a few weeks later they’ll change their minds just like they have been doing.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby oldweststander » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:29 pm

Dan wrote:With the bodge job the Torys have made from the start I’d do the complete opposite to whatever they tell you because you know a few weeks later they’ll change their minds just like they have been doing.


Not perfect by any means but I feel "bodge job" to be a bit unfair.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:37 pm

oldweststander wrote:
Dan wrote:With the bodge job the Torys have made from the start I’d do the complete opposite to whatever they tell you because you know a few weeks later they’ll change their minds just like they have been doing.


Not perfect by any means but I feel "bodge job" to be a bit unfair.



You've got to be joking OWS?
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby arsene wengers coat » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:10 pm

The total incompetent calamity this government is was exacerbated by Bojo's weakness in not sacking Cummings.

After he was allowed to drive to Durham several times, that's it, last straw, credibility evaporated.

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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Dan » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:49 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:The total incompetent calamity this government is was exacerbated by Bojo's weakness in not sacking Cummings.

After he was allowed to drive to Durham several times, that's it, last straw, credibility evaporated.

#Totalomnishambles


Spot on. And the dithering for THREE WEEKS at the start when he was told to put us on lockdown and of course letting his posh mates go to the Cheltenham Festival which infected thousands more plus letting Madrid fans come to Anfield when Spain was the worst place in the world at the time for infection rates. I could go on....
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Martin Shaw » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:25 pm

the discussion has now turned into politics, so just a reminder please that we have a forum for non-football discussion.

Please keep this forum to football discussion, in particular League Two and related.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Sneag » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:21 am

Just playing Devil's advocate here Martin, but doesn't Govt response to the Coronavirus epidemic have a direct impact on the wellbeing of Mansfield Town Football Club?
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Martin Shaw » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:05 am

Sneag wrote:Just playing Devil's advocate here Martin, but doesn't Govt response to the Coronavirus epidemic have a direct impact on the wellbeing of Mansfield Town Football Club?

I'll quote what one random user said on another thread not long ago:
There was me thinking you could come on Stagsnet and not be subjected to the same dull political discussions you could find in a million and one other places on the internet if you really wanted to discuss it. There’s even a politics board on this forum for crying out loud.

Just talk about the Stags fgs


So in the Stagsnet Main Discussion Forum you can talk about the impact on MTFC, such as season restart, which was why the thread was started, and how many fans might be let into the ground, etc. In the Politics Forum you can discuss your opinion of the competence of the Government's response to the crisis.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby west country stag » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:08 am

Home games for home supporters only .
.. we can use the 3 sides for distancing till normality resumes !
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby I am Spartacus » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:32 am

Martin Shaw wrote:
Sneag wrote:Just playing Devil's advocate here Martin, but doesn't Govt response to the Coronavirus epidemic have a direct impact on the wellbeing of Mansfield Town Football Club?

I'll quote what one random user said on another thread not long ago:
There was me thinking you could come on Stagsnet and not be subjected to the same dull political discussions you could find in a million and one other places on the internet if you really wanted to discuss it. There’s even a politics board on this forum for crying out loud.

Just talk about the Stags fgs


So in the Stagsnet Main Discussion Forum you can talk about the impact on MTFC, such as season restart, which was why the thread was started, and how many fans might be let into the ground, etc. In the Politics Forum you can discuss your opinion of the competence of the Government's response to the crisis.


I agree Martin, I am fed up of having to put my surgical mask on to read this thread!
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby cassellswasmagic » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:34 am

west country stag wrote:Home games for home supporters only .
.. we can use the 3 sides for distancing till normality resumes !

Is this what’s happening wcs? Would home supporters have to have a season ticket due to a home address being linked for any tracing?
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Sneag » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:07 pm

I am Spartacus wrote:
Martin Shaw wrote:
Sneag wrote:Just playing Devil's advocate here Martin, but doesn't Govt response to the Coronavirus epidemic have a direct impact on the wellbeing of Mansfield Town Football Club?

I'll quote what one random user said on another thread not long ago:
There was me thinking you could come on Stagsnet and not be subjected to the same dull political discussions you could find in a million and one other places on the internet if you really wanted to discuss it. There’s even a politics board on this forum for crying out loud.

Just talk about the Stags fgs


So in the Stagsnet Main Discussion Forum you can talk about the impact on MTFC, such as season restart, which was why the thread was started, and how many fans might be let into the ground, etc. In the Politics Forum you can discuss your opinion of the competence of the Government's response to the crisis.


I agree Martin, I am fed up of having to put my surgical mask on to read this thread!


It must be less restrictive than your Thraex helmet?
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Martin Shaw » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:19 pm

from https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/spo ... um-2911792

Posh director of football Barry Fry says the EFL, the Premier League and the FA are still holding talks on the matter, although September 12 remains the likeliest opening day date.

Fry said: “It’s incredibly frustrating, but we’ve now been told we won’t hear anything about a start date until July 24. The Premier League and the FA are still talking with the EFL about cups and all sorts.

“It’s driving our manager Darren Ferguson up the wall as he can’t plan properly for next season. It can’t start any later than September 12 or we’ll never get the fixtures in. If we start on September 12 it will be six months between competitive matches for us.”
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby MTFCMusings » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:27 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:from https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/spo ... um-2911792

Posh director of football Barry Fry says the EFL, the Premier League and the FA are still holding talks on the matter, although September 12 remains the likeliest opening day date.

Fry said: “It’s incredibly frustrating, but we’ve now been told we won’t hear anything about a start date until July 24. The Premier League and the FA are still talking with the EFL about cups and all sorts.

“It’s driving our manager Darren Ferguson up the wall as he can’t plan properly for next season. It can’t start any later than September 12 or we’ll never get the fixtures in. If we start on September 12 it will be six months between competitive matches for us.


As well as 40 odd other teams.

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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby I am Spartacus » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:01 pm

Sneag wrote:
I am Spartacus wrote:
Martin Shaw wrote:
Sneag wrote:Just playing Devil's advocate here Martin, but doesn't Govt response to the Coronavirus epidemic have a direct impact on the wellbeing of Mansfield Town Football Club?

I'll quote what one random user said on another thread not long ago:
There was me thinking you could come on Stagsnet and not be subjected to the same dull political discussions you could find in a million and one other places on the internet if you really wanted to discuss it. There’s even a politics board on this forum for crying out loud.

Just talk about the Stags fgs


So in the Stagsnet Main Discussion Forum you can talk about the impact on MTFC, such as season restart, which was why the thread was started, and how many fans might be let into the ground, etc. In the Politics Forum you can discuss your opinion of the competence of the Government's response to the crisis.


I agree Martin, I am fed up of having to put my surgical mask on to read this thread!


It must be less restrictive than your Thraex helmet?


Definitely, but not as good for when a Roman spear is launched at one’s noggin.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby bobbystagsfan » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:09 pm

I fail to see the relevance Roman spears have to Mansfield or league two



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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Sneag » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:49 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:I fail to see the relevance Roman spears have to Mansfield or league two



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Did you never visit Millmoor back in the day? Spears were the least of your problems.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby Spiritater » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:53 pm

I once had a rock hard meat n tater pie hit me between the eyes in t'alley that was the killing ground at Millmoor. The nurse as she put the stitches in my forehead in hospital was amazed a pie could do such damage.
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Re: Season restart dates :

Postby The One » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:34 am

BOJO saying crowds back mid October
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