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Re: National league

Postby yellowstagsfan » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:21 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:

National Leagues level 3 to 6 (No promotion or relegation)
Decision on National Leagues 1 and 2 asap
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Re: National league

Postby Beano » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:35 pm

robbingdog wrote:Am I right in thinking county do not get a parachute payment next
season? If not it will certainly make it interesting for them


Full parachute payment year 1
Half payment year 2

Year 3 (cheats next season) bugger all

Of course if this year is cancelled, they’ll all be saying that it doesn’t count and they’ll want the same payment next year.
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Re: National league

Postby cassellswasmagic » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:13 pm

Lawsuits are already on the cards from some clubs in promotion places.
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Re: National league

Postby adamstag » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:36 pm

cassellswasmagic wrote:Lawsuits are already on the cards from some clubs in promotion places.


Yeah.

Vauxhall motors have already won the league with 7 games remaining! But haven’t....

Not going to go down well
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Re: National league

Postby stagtastic1 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:16 am

As far as I am aware the season ends after the last play off match and this date has been set.
If the clubs have not been able to be in a position to participate in these matches due to no further games having been played from now till that date.
Then surely the season could be declared null and void at that point without the fear of legal action.
If so, and I know it still leaves an air of uncertainty, why not just wait till this date has been reached
Might be me being simplistic and no doubt others more informed will pick holes in my theory but it is just a thought.
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Re: National league

Postby Martin Shaw » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:13 pm

"Four points clear as Lincoln are McCaffreyised", CHAD headline, April 1975
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Re: National league

Postby Martin Shaw » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:43 pm

this is for levels below the National League:

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Re: National league

Postby Martin Shaw » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:52 pm

"Four points clear as Lincoln are McCaffreyised", CHAD headline, April 1975
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Re: National league

Postby arsene wengers coat » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:34 pm

Wonder what way chesterfield will vote?
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Re: National league

Postby Big yella » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:10 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:Wonder what way chesterfield will vote?

To end the season as only 3 will go down.
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Re: National league

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:45 am

Barrow and Harrogate to be promoted?
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Re: National league

Postby cassellswasmagic » Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:10 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Barrow and Harrogate to be promoted?

Barrow must be the unluckiest club in England if they can’t come up. Didn’t they get thrown out the league unjustly years ago?
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Re: National league

Postby groundhoppingstag » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:20 pm

cassellswasmagic wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Barrow and Harrogate to be promoted?

Barrow must be the unluckiest club in England if they can’t come up. Didn’t they get thrown out the league unjustly years ago?


Barrow faced re-election in 1972
They received fewer votes than Hereford, who were duly elected.
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Re: National league

Postby Rigsby » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:46 pm

Hereford were elected on the back of their cup run. They didn't even win their league that season. You could also argue that Barrow were pretty unfortunate to be relegated as they actually finished 3rd bottom, their geographical location no doubt went against them.
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Re: National league

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:41 pm

"An advance payment from the Premier League for next season means National League clubs receive £58,333 while National League North/South clubs get £13,636, funding will be sent out next week."
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Re: National league

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:37 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:"An advance payment from the Premier League for next season means National League clubs receive £58,333 while National League North/South clubs get £13,636, funding will be sent out next week."


Is this merely paying next years money early (in which case it will have to last longer) or is it an additional sum to compensate for the loss of revenue from games?

Sounds like an early payment from that description which is not really a long term solution.
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Re: National league

Postby Big yella » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:55 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:"An advance payment from the Premier League for next season means National League clubs receive £58,333 while National League North/South clubs get £13,636, funding will be sent out next week."


Is this merely paying next years money early (in which case it will have to last longer) or is it an additional sum to compensate for the loss of revenue from games?

Sounds like an early payment from that description which is not really a long term solution.

Where's the long term planning in ending the season now depriving clubs of over 20% of there seasons gate money.
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Re: National league

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:17 am

Big yella wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:"An advance payment from the Premier League for next season means National League clubs receive £58,333 while National League North/South clubs get £13,636, funding will be sent out next week."


Is this merely paying next years money early (in which case it will have to last longer) or is it an additional sum to compensate for the loss of revenue from games?

Sounds like an early payment from that description which is not really a long term solution.

Where's the long term planning in ending the season now depriving clubs of over 20% of there seasons gate money.


It died when the virus erupted. Things have changed and life is not the same. Denying that simple fact will not help in the future. A lack of promotion/relegation for a handful of teams is the consequence of an unprecedented situation and trying to ensure they take place only disrupts further, never mind the fact that it is unfair and artificial.
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Entire EFL postponed until April 3rd (at earliest)

Postby adamstag » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:15 pm

The conference have voted to end their season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52381612

Good news for barrow I guess!
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Re: Entire EFL postponed until April 3rd (at earliest)

Postby chip63 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:25 pm

Promotions and relegation are "under careful consideration" further updates coming soon.
I can see many weeks if not months of legal battles coming.
I suppose it depends if upper tiers decide to relegate teams or should I say the premiership.
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Re: Entire EFL postponed until April 3rd (at earliest)

Postby Martin Shaw » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:54 pm

adamstag wrote:The conference have voted to end their season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52381612

Good news for barrow I guess!

Not necessarily good news for Barrow, there is no decision on how outcomes will be worked out. ie we don't know if the league positions will be scrapped, or they will use points per game, or what they will do.
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Re: Entire EFL postponed until April 3rd (at earliest)

Postby Jimstag » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:55 pm

adamstag wrote:The conference have voted to end their season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52381612

Good news for barrow I guess!


You’d think with Bury gone and a few other clubs struggling that there will be at least one place available even without relegation, but based on that statement alone there are still way too many unknowns at the moment.
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Re: National league

Postby adamstag » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:50 pm

That’s why I was pretty sure barrow would go up. They’d go up using either formula and with bury gone even if promotion/relegation was scrapped they’d still need a space to fill
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Re: National league

Postby Sneag » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:08 pm

adamstag wrote:That’s why I was pretty sure barrow would go up. They’d go up using either formula and with bury gone even if promotion/relegation was scrapped they’d still need a space to fill


On PPG Barrow win the league by 5 points. 11 points ahead of County who will claim the deserve to go up because they are Notts County.
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Re: National league

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:43 pm

adamstag wrote:That’s why I was pretty sure barrow would go up. They’d go up using either formula and with bury gone even if promotion/relegation was scrapped they’d still need a space to fill


Unfortunately though that place is currently in league 1. If the EFL decide not to promote/relegate teams, promoting Barrow would mean 25 teams in league 2 next season and 23 in league 1 with adjustments in following seasons. I just can't see that happening so it may not be as simple as promoting one team.
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