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Support Fund

Postby Martian » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:52 pm

Has this been suggested anywhere - I know everyone is worried about their own circumstances and future - but I wonder whether maybe SSA or Stags Fans United might establish a fund to help the club a little through the difficult times ahead - one or two might have a little cash to spare given ongoing postponements - totally voluntary - every little bit helps
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Re: Support Fund

Postby chip63 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:17 pm

Luckily we have owners that can see this through.
I'm not so sure about many other clubs in all the leagues.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Captain Cunno » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:40 pm

I need all my spare money for toilet roll.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Sneag » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:05 pm

Captain Cunno wrote:I need all my spare money for toilet roll.


Toilet roll is so last week. I've been out panic buying sandbags & a crossbow to protect my stash of Chappie.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Vera Duckworth » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:14 pm

Good idea and I would happy to contribute to that, we shouldn’t take the owners bankrolling us for granted
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:15 am

It may be the players who need the handouts as there will be no bonuses for appearances, goals etc.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby yellowstagsfan » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:46 am

Think a fund should be set up by the Premier League/Sky/FA to guarantee the loss of match day income based on average attendances this season for League 1 and below. The cost to them would be a drop in the ocean compared to the income they generate. The fund would cover all revenue lost by clubs on ticket sales, programmes refreshment sales etc. It would not be designed to help clubs who are poorly run by their greedy owners. This would preserve the integrity of the lower league professional game and preserve the future of the sport we all love.
This crisis is not going to go away very soon and they must act now. If we don’t play another match this season the season ticket holders will have made their contributions by way of forgoing the remaining home fixtures. I for one would not be requesting a refund.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Spiritater » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:42 am

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:It may be the players who need the handouts as there will be no bonuses for appearances, goals etc.


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Re: Support Fund

Postby Foresttownstag » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:44 am

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:It may be the players who need the handouts as there will be no bonuses for appearances, goals etc.


I think they’ll be fine, I’d imagine they’d be on between £1,000 - £4,000 a week.

I’d be thinking more about the match day staff
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Jimstag » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:52 am

Foresttownstag wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:It may be the players who need the handouts as there will be no bonuses for appearances, goals etc.


I think they’ll be fine, I’d imagine they’d be on between £1,000 - £4,000 a week.

I’d be thinking more about the match day staff


I don’t know if we do zero hours or pay per match type of contracts but it will be these people who feel it first. That said my employer will only pay statuary if I can’t work due to corona so even contracted people could be taking home less that you think.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Bradders » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:09 am

yellowstagsfan wrote:Think a fund should be set up by the Premier League/Sky/FA to guarantee the loss of match day income based on average attendances this season for League 1 and below. The cost to them would be a drop in the ocean compared to the income they generate. The fund would cover all revenue lost by clubs on ticket sales, programmes refreshment sales etc. It would not be designed to help clubs who are poorly run by their greedy owners. This would preserve the integrity of the lower league professional game and preserve the future of the sport we all love.
This crisis is not going to go away very soon and they must act now. If we don’t play another match this season the season ticket holders will have made their contributions by way of forgoing the remaining home fixtures. I for one would not be requesting a refund.

Depends what happens. It may be that there's a break until May and then the season continues through the summer, then we have a slight delay to the start of next season. The net effect would be a bit different from the usual summer break, but not too significant. Particularly bearing in mind that a lot of people might have to postpone their summer holidays anyway and will be looking for local entertainment.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby spanishstag » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:12 pm

Bradders wrote:
yellowstagsfan wrote:Think a fund should be set up by the Premier League/Sky/FA to guarantee the loss of match day income based on average attendances this season for League 1 and below. The cost to them would be a drop in the ocean compared to the income they generate. The fund would cover all revenue lost by clubs on ticket sales, programmes refreshment sales etc. It would not be designed to help clubs who are poorly run by their greedy owners. This would preserve the integrity of the lower league professional game and preserve the future of the sport we all love.
This crisis is not going to go away very soon and they must act now. If we don’t play another match this season the season ticket holders will have made their contributions by way of forgoing the remaining home fixtures. I for one would not be requesting a refund.

Depends what happens. It may be that there's a break until May and then the season continues through the summer, then we have a slight delay to the start of next season. The net effect would be a bit different from the usual summer break, but not too significant. Particularly bearing in mind that a lot of people might have to postpone their summer holidays anyway and will be looking for local entertainment.

This is not going to end ,forget the euros and tbh next season is not going to start in august in fact i think it may not start at all its chaos worldwide might as well forget footy for the next 6 months
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:47 am

Bradders wrote:
yellowstagsfan wrote:Think a fund should be set up by the Premier League/Sky/FA to guarantee the loss of match day income based on average attendances this season for League 1 and below. The cost to them would be a drop in the ocean compared to the income they generate. The fund would cover all revenue lost by clubs on ticket sales, programmes refreshment sales etc. It would not be designed to help clubs who are poorly run by their greedy owners. This would preserve the integrity of the lower league professional game and preserve the future of the sport we all love.
This crisis is not going to go away very soon and they must act now. If we don’t play another match this season the season ticket holders will have made their contributions by way of forgoing the remaining home fixtures. I for one would not be requesting a refund.

Depends what happens. It may be that there's a break until May and then the season continues through the summer, then we have a slight delay to the start of next season. The net effect would be a bit different from the usual summer break, but not too significant. Particularly bearing in mind that a lot of people might have to postpone their summer holidays anyway and will be looking for local entertainment.
I very much doubt that there will be a resumption in May, June or July for that matter.

I think the fund is a good idea. Maybe half of what you would have paid to attend the game. I agree that season ticket owners will have already contributed. Also there will be some who unfortunately will be worse off financially, due to crisis, who won't be able to contribute.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Jamie » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:31 am

Sorry but a fund to help football clubs? So they can do what exactly. Give our money to already overpaid footballers? Anyone wishing to donate money should surely do so to those whose lives and being turned upside down. People who lose jobs etc.

Footballers should be helping their communities. Not the other way round. Some of you have some strange ideas but giving money to a football club in a time of national crisis is right up there.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby cassellswasmagic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:57 am

Jamie wrote:Sorry but a fund to help football clubs? So they can do what exactly. Give our money to already overpaid footballers? Anyone wishing to donate money should surely do so to those whose lives and being turned upside down. People who lose jobs etc.

Footballers should be helping their communities. Not the other way round. Some of you have some strange ideas but giving money to a football club in a time of national crisis is right up there.

This. Lots of footballers are putting something back though.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Waggy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:29 am

are we wired up properly? (Jamie aside)

We have tax dodging multi-millionaire owners and young lads earning 3 grand a week and you want people on minimum wage to subsidise them!!

This is how far the right wing press and government has gone in brainwashing people!
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Richard Cranium » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:38 am

Jamie wrote:Sorry but a fund to help football clubs? So they can do what exactly. Give our money to already overpaid footballers? Anyone wishing to donate money should surely do so to those whose lives and being turned upside down. People who lose jobs etc.

Footballers should be helping their communities. Not the other way round. Some of you have some strange ideas but giving money to a football club in a time of national crisis is right up there.


raspberry sake. I agree with Jamie.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Random Hero » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:19 pm

Richard Cranium wrote:
Jamie wrote:Sorry but a fund to help football clubs? So they can do what exactly. Give our money to already overpaid footballers? Anyone wishing to donate money should surely do so to those whose lives and being turned upside down. People who lose jobs etc.

Footballers should be helping their communities. Not the other way round. Some of you have some strange ideas but giving money to a football club in a time of national crisis is right up there.


raspberry sake. I agree with Jamie.


Completely agree with him. There's much more to worry about right now than football.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:10 pm

Random Hero wrote:
Richard Cranium wrote:
Jamie wrote:Sorry but a fund to help football clubs? So they can do what exactly. Give our money to already overpaid footballers? Anyone wishing to donate money should surely do so to those whose lives and being turned upside down. People who lose jobs etc.

Footballers should be helping their communities. Not the other way round. Some of you have some strange ideas but giving money to a football club in a time of national crisis is right up there.


raspberry sake. I agree with Jamie.


Completely agree with him. There's much more to worry about right now than football.
Of course there is. I don't think anyone is denying that.

Whether that means you rule out helping your football club in difficult times, I'm not sure.

It doesn't mean you don't help in other areas.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Chander Lear » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:54 pm

Jamie wrote:Sorry but a fund to help football clubs? So they can do what exactly. Give our money to already overpaid footballers? Anyone wishing to donate money should surely do so to those whose lives and being turned upside down. People who lose jobs etc.

Footballers should be helping their communities. Not the other way round. Some of you have some strange ideas but giving money to a football club in a time of national crisis is right up there.


spot on. People will be going off sick soon, relying on small amounts of sick pay whilst bills still need to be paid.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:02 pm

Chander Lear wrote:
Jamie wrote:Sorry but a fund to help football clubs? So they can do what exactly. Give our money to already overpaid footballers? Anyone wishing to donate money should surely do so to those whose lives and being turned upside down. People who lose jobs etc.

Footballers should be helping their communities. Not the other way round. Some of you have some strange ideas but giving money to a football club in a time of national crisis is right up there.


spot on. People will be going off sick soon, relying on small amounts of sick pay whilst bills still need to be paid.
That's not new though is it? It's just that people going off sick is going to go off the scale. Perhaps when the numbers rocket it will give us more social empathy. Same can be said for Social Care.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:42 pm

Waggy wrote:are we wired up properly? (Jamie aside)

We have tax dodging multi-millionaire owners and young lads earning 3 grand a week and you want people on minimum wage to subsidise them!!

This is how far the right wing press and government has gone in brainwashing people!


Eh? Stay on track.

The idea isn’t good but it has nothing to do with the so called right wing press.

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Re: Support Fund

Postby stag324 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:50 pm

The current situation will be a huge opportunity for the richest in football to give something back, whether that be football club owners or multi point footballers.
I can see league 1 & 2 clubs becoming feeder clubs for the richest as they will take ownership of the little clubs.

We will be living in a very different world this time next year. Both in football and the wider world
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:39 pm

And we will all die at the turn of the millennium as planes crash and the whole civilised world crashes and burns.

No it isn't good but let's get a bit of perspective, the world will continue with just a hiccup. It isn't the Black Death, it's a new flu strain. Yes it is a serious one but we are not all doomed I tell you, not doomed.
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Re: Support Fund

Postby Martian » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:54 pm

interesting range of views - a hiccup or the black death. No one knows where this is going and we may all end up too desperate to save our own skins to really care about the club. But lets hope the club can keep the academy going anyway - cos that could well really be the future of the club. And we may well have to revisit whether community input is proportionate further down the line.
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