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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:10 pm

Random Hero wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


Because he’s under contract you


And you think that makes any difference? It’s all about player power. He’s got dogs abuse from the stands and a club with fans who love him in a higher league come in for him. Not rocket science is it.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Random Hero » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:11 pm

Dan wrote:Jonson Clarke-Harris?


We got any xG stats on him?
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby nigegray » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:11 pm

we are on a kami kaze january window hope some quality comes in before 11pm
or its gonna be a tough run in to end of season?
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Stags 2002 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:14 pm

Random Hero wrote:
Dan wrote:Jonson Clarke-Harris?


We got any xG stats on him?


No chance of that happening being linked with a Championship move.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby georgefostersbeard » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:14 pm

Good to see calm heads are prevailing tonight.
Let's wait to see what the plan is
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:15 pm

Random Hero wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


Because he’s under contract you


Abuse has started I see. No wonder them stewards filmed you.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:15 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
Random Hero wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


Because he’s under contract you


And you think that makes any difference? It’s all about player power. He’s got dogs abuse from the stands and a club with fans who love him in a higher league come in for him. Not rocket science is it.


Surely you know the replacements already??
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby bellwhiff » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:16 pm

georgefostersbeard wrote:Good to see calm heads are prevailing tonight.
Let's wait to see what the plan is

If we have singled players, do you really think that not announcing it till tomorrow will hinder Carlisle ?

I think we’ve got every right to be concerned at the moment.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Dan » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:16 pm

Stags 2002 wrote:
Random Hero wrote:
Dan wrote:Jonson Clarke-Harris?


We got any xG stats on him?


No chance of that happening being linked with a Championship move.


We can offer him £5-6,000 a week with Cook, Khan & Mellis wages, money talks.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby bobbystagsfan » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:17 pm

Dan wrote:
Stags 2002 wrote:
Random Hero wrote:
Dan wrote:Jonson Clarke-Harris?


We got any xG stats on him?


No chance of that happening being linked with a Championship move.


We can offer him £5-6,000 a week with Cook, Khan & Mellis wages, money talks.



I'm sure Charlton put a big bid in for him
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Conker » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:17 pm

Andy Cook just isn’t the type of player for GC, he’s not capable of a high intensity press.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby BH_Stag » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:18 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


It’s Tranmere not Sunderland! He’s played in league 1 before and I’m sure he could have stayed there in the summer after scoring a lot of goals for poor Walsall side but instead chose to drop a league and come to us. I don’t think the fact he’s now playing in League 1 will be that big a factor for him. He won’t want to be playing second fiddle, particularly when he keeps scoring off the bench.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Chrisuknottm » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:19 pm

WVStag wrote:
Cleveland_Stag wrote:If we end up replacing him with some young lad who’s never played professional football like Charlsey and Watts...


At LeAsT YoUNg JiMMy mIgHt GeT a cHaNcE


He's not big enough for League 2
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby georgefostersbeard » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:19 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
georgefostersbeard wrote:Good to see calm heads are prevailing tonight.
Let's wait to see what the plan is

If we have singled players, do you really think that not announcing it till tomorrow will hinder Carlisle ?

I think we’ve got every right to be concerned at the moment.


There is concerned and then there is the prediction of doom, relegation and criticism of the Radfords.

I don't know why GC announces signings late but it appears to be his style
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby HitchcocksShins » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:21 pm

Natural goalscorer gone, that's madness. Surely already got someone lined up, likely to be announced tomorrow about 1.55pm
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:21 pm

BH_Stag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


It’s Tranmere not Sunderland! He’s played in league 1 before and I’m sure he could have stayed there in the summer after scoring a lot of goals for poor Walsall side but instead chose to drop a league and come to us. I don’t think the fact he’s now playing in League 1 will be that big a factor for him. He won’t want to be playing second fiddle, particularly when he keeps scoring off the bench.


Read his comments. Clearly moving back to Tranmere was big factor for him.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby bellwhiff » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:23 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
BH_Stag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


It’s Tranmere not Sunderland! He’s played in league 1 before and I’m sure he could have stayed there in the summer after scoring a lot of goals for poor Walsall side but instead chose to drop a league and come to us. I don’t think the fact he’s now playing in League 1 will be that big a factor for him. He won’t want to be playing second fiddle, particularly when he keeps scoring off the bench.


Read his comments. Clearly moving back to Tranmere was big factor for him.


Clearly getting away from the morons in certain quarters was important
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Chrisuknottm » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:24 pm

His lack of celebration after his goal last Saturday said everything
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:25 pm

I'd have kept Andy Cook because his goals could keep us up but I'd have driven Otis Khan to Newport myself. A massive waste of money by DF along with Craig Davies. These two players must have cost the club around £1 million taking into account transfer fees, signing on fees and wages.

GC is certainly clearing the decks. Fingers crossed he has a cunning plan.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:48 pm

Don't forget we've still got Omari Sterling-James!! He's still hanging in there. I think.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Sneag » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:52 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Don't forget we've still got Omari Sterling-James!! He's still hanging in there. I think.


TBF he's been as productive as Khan over the last 2 seasons.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby stagsfan6493 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:24 am

Random Hero wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


Because he’s under contract you

Some more pointless abuse that the mods let by.
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Chander Lear » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:05 am

stagsfan6493 wrote:
Random Hero wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


Because he’s under contract you

Some more pointless abuse that the mods let by.


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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:43 am

MTFCMusings wrote:
Random Hero wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


Because he’s under contract you


And you think that makes any difference? It’s all about player power. He’s got dogs abuse from the stands and a club with fans who love him in a higher league come in for him. Not rocket science is it.



What should we do with him random? Let him rot in the reserves with a big wage because he's unhappy we rejected the transfer offer?
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Re: Cook goes to Tranmere on loan

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:05 am

bobbystagsfan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Random Hero wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:He’s gone to a League One team. How would we be able to deny him that?


Because he’s under contract you perpetual div


And you think that makes any difference? It’s all about player power. He’s got dogs abuse from the stands and a club with fans who love him in a higher league come in for him. Not rocket science is it.



What should we do with him random? Let him rot in the reserves with a big wage because he's unhappy we rejected the transfer offer?
Its not about these players being allowed to leave Bobby, it's about not replacing them adequately. We have let go Logan, Mellis, Cook and Khan. Apart from Piper ( who is experienced but let go by his former club due to injury concerns), we have replaced them with young inexperienced players.

Some say we can sign players who have been released from their contracts. That's not worked well in the past, has it ? AM signed an experienced striker ( who was that good his name escapes me now), who had played at the higher level with a number of clubs including Nottingham Forest. He had very little impact.

Others say we will be alright because we have an eight point cushion, that other teams are worse than us, and anyway only one team goes down. So we will be alright. Well an eight point fusion can easily be eroded. I hope they are correct and my concerns turn out to be groundless.

We all know this is a cost cutting exercise, probably to save money for next season. It is also a gamble.
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