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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby gazza1988 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:07 pm

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gazza1988 wrote:Whilst I think that site is bang on, we could have still had a high budget. That's average wage over the number of players in the squad. So if team A has 22 players averaging £1.9k a week and team B has 25 players averaging £1.8k a week. Team B would have the higher budget but their average wage is lower.


Let it go


Let what go? All I did was point out that averages isn't indicative of total budget.

Last I checked bud, this is a discussion forum and money rules in football. It is not out of the question for fans to discuss how much we are paying players.

I'm not of the opinion that top 3 budget guarantees top 3. I do believe that a top 3 budget should make us competitive for a top 3 spot (hence my belief that DF should have stayed, 4th is not a bad return on a top 3 budget all things considered). No matter how you dress it up, we are nowhere near competing this season and need one hell of a run to compete for a repeat finish of last season. He has made a mountain out of a molehill.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:12 pm

gazza1988 wrote:
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gazza1988 wrote:Whilst I think that site is bang on, we could have still had a high budget. That's average wage over the number of players in the squad. So if team A has 22 players averaging £1.9k a week and team B has 25 players averaging £1.8k a week. Team B would have the higher budget but their average wage is lower.


Let it go


Let what go? All I did was point out that averages isn't indicative of total budget.

Last I checked bud, this is a discussion forum and money rules in football. It is not out of the question for fans to discuss how much we are paying players.

I'm not of the opinion that top 3 budget guarantees top 3. I do believe that a top 3 budget should make us competitive for a top 3 spot (hence my belief that DF should have stayed, 4th is not a bad return on a top 3 budget all things considered). No matter how you dress it up, we are nowhere near competing this season and need one hell of a run to compete for a repeat finish of last season. He has made a mountain out of a molehill.


Sorry, gazza. I shouldn’t have been so dismissive.

My appetite for squad budget talk was satiated weeks ago.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby diablo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:02 pm

I forecast we would be in the bottom three by Christmas.
Watched the Port Vale game last night and it only served to increase my fears for the rest of the Season . We seem to have not only a manager who is not taking things on board and altering his style and approach (sic) ,but also an assistant Manager who seems to be watching, based on his post match interview, an entirely different game to the majority of us. The board of Director's appear reluctant to take action so I must revive my original bottom three by Christmas forecast, to one of being relegated come the end of the Season.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby Sedgwick » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:22 pm

Dan wrote:
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The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:Youth set up is not the answer.
Teams that get promoted need the requisite amount of experience.
Teams that get relegated have often been forced to rely too much on youth.
More importantly - We can loan better youth players from other clubs in higher leagues.
I'm sorry ... but I just don't buy into this obsession with our youth team.


Ageed. Did accy lincoln Mk to name a few get up with youth? NO


People also need to realise the level of our youth team.... it's not that good. Yes they win the league a lot but the level is no where near first team. Occasionally you'll get a lad who's good enough but we cant rely on them yet.

Elsnik and Gordon both played in premier league two, the best youth league in the country and they are both league two level.


You really do come out with some crap. :lol:


Winning a crap league every year doesn't mean you're going to produce wonder kids does it. Of course you couldn't grasp that...
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby gazza1988 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:49 pm

To cheer everyone up here's what our "season of failure" last season looked like after 19 games.

https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/lea ... mber-2018/

This is what the table looked like after 19 games in our promotion season in 01/02

https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/lea ... mber-2001/
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby diablo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:31 pm

Interesting...last year Yeovil were on 21 points after 19 games and we know where they are now
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby Jamie » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:51 pm

The year we went down we only had 13 points from 19 games.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby Vice President » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:37 pm

diablo wrote:Interesting...last year Yeovil were on 21 points after 19 games and we know where they are now


That is a very sobering thought! The Board - please take note.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby arsene wengers coat » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:54 pm

diablo wrote:Interesting...last year Yeovil were on 21 points after 19 games and we know where they are now


Very real possibility this season.

We need a total overhaul of management and players.
You've got to go there and come back, to know where you've been.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:57 pm

Relegation won’t happen.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:59 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:
diablo wrote:Interesting...last year Yeovil were on 21 points after 19 games and we know where they are now


Very real possibility this season.

We need a total overhaul of management and players.



The players one won't happen, not in January anyway. As we found out last January, good players are hard to come by. I think we'll have to have a big rebuild next summer as I assume quite a few players will be out of contract, and none of them have achieved anything other than a few being in the team of the year last season.

I think we'll just end up being mid table and then having another push at trying to get promotion.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby The One » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:00 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Relegation won’t happen.


Said Clownty fans
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:01 pm

The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Relegation won’t happen.


Said Clownty fans


Don’t care what they said. Our squad is infinitely better than theirs was.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:01 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Relegation won’t happen.



I don't think it will either. We have been poor this season, but not bottom of the league poor. I think Stevenage or Morecambe will go down.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby The One » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:18 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Relegation won’t happen.



I don't think it will either. We have been poor this season, but not bottom of the league poor. I think Stevenage or Morecambe will go down.


You mean the Morecambe that beat us ?
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:19 pm

The One wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Relegation won’t happen.



I don't think it will either. We have been poor this season, but not bottom of the league poor. I think Stevenage or Morecambe will go down.


You mean the Morecambe that beat us ?


It was a draw.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby The One » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:23 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
The One wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Relegation won’t happen.



I don't think it will either. We have been poor this season, but not bottom of the league poor. I think Stevenage or Morecambe will go down.


You mean the Morecambe that beat us ?


It was a draw.


You are right . Alls well we drew with Morecambe.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:26 pm

I’m not saying all is well, just that we won’t go down.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby The One » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:29 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:I’m not saying all is well, just that we won’t go down.


You sound like a Looton fan i know :)
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:32 pm

The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:I’m not saying all is well, just that we won’t go down.


You sound like a Looton fan i know :)



You can't even remember our own results.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:33 pm

The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:I’m not saying all is well, just that we won’t go down.


You sound like a Looton fan i know :)


He was living in cloud cuckoo land, they were always in for a relegation battle.
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby Dan » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:34 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:I’m not saying all is well, just that we won’t go down.


You sound like a Looton fan i know :)



You can't even remember our own results.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :D
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby diablo » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:59 pm

Unfortunately its happening...
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:59 pm

Well at least we will get our local derbies back!
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Re: Christmas could see us 3rd from bottom

Postby spanishstag » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:09 pm

EdwinstoweStag wrote:Well at least we will get our local derbies back!


Not unless clownty go on a run and the sheep win every game
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