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[BH_Stag]

It’s the only solution, said it time and time again, managers do not succeed once over 80% of fans want them gone.

I love it how you keep plucking these percentages out of the air. The other day it was 95% Now apparently it's 80%

Bearing in mind a lot of our fan base are on the 'older' side & don't use social media or stagsnet it's still nowhere near as much as that either. But you crack on with your fantasy figures

Christ, talk about pedantic The point is that the percentage is high, very high, whether we know an exact figure or not, it’s really not difficult stuff to comprehend Dan. Also how would you know whether the older fan base want him in or out?

Funnily enough when I did give you accurate percentages R.e Dempster/Carlton Palmer it was glossed over

You mean you started backtracking & saying “I was only joking” when I pointed out to you that JD has only had half the amount of games that Palmer had (41) so you couldn’t make an accurate percentage?!. Yes I remember the vehicle reversing....

Did you read the post? I said I only originally said Dempster was worse than Palmer tongue in cheek... then I looked in to it and realised that he actually is performing worse than him somehow, and showed you percentages that Dempster is currently operating below Palmers final win percentage. Then added if you just look at Palmers first 18 games to have a direct comparison with Dempster 18 league games, Palmer achieved more wins and more points.

[arsene wengers coat]

Thing is Dan, when Demps has had a full season and been woeful throughout, what will your excuse be then?

At what point will you agree he is a terrible failure.

I'll change my mind on him if he some how sees the season out and gets to the playoffs. That's his minimum requirement, and it's pretty unlikely. Otherwise I will think of him as the worst manager I can remember, who I believe needs to be replaced ASAFP.

[Dan]

It’s the only solution, said it time and time again, managers do not succeed once over 80% of fans want them gone.

I love it how you keep plucking these percentages out of the air. The other day it was 95% Now apparently it's 80%

Bearing in mind a lot of our fan base are on the 'older' side & don't use social media or stagsnet it's still nowhere near as much as that either. But you crack on with your fantasy figures

Christ, talk about pedantic The point is that the percentage is high, very high, whether we know an exact figure or not, it’s really not difficult stuff to comprehend Dan. Also how would you know whether the older fan base want him in or out?

Funnily enough when I did give you accurate percentages R.e Dempster/Carlton Palmer it was glossed over

You mean you started backtracking & saying “I was only joking” when I pointed out to you that JD has only had half the amount of games that Palmer had (41) so you couldn’t make an accurate percentage?!. Yes I remember the vehicle reversing....

Did you read the post? I said I only originally said Dempster was worse than Palmer tongue in cheek... then I looked in to it and realised that he actually is performing worse than him somehow, and showed you percentages that Dempster is currently operating below Palmers final win percentage. Then added if you just look at Palmers first 18 games to have a direct comparison with Dempster 18 league games, Palmer achieved more wins and more points.

Yes I read it & you’ve just confirmed I was right. You can’t compare records of two people when one has had 21 games more than the other, it’s just not right or fair.

[MTFCMusings]

That’s how percentages work Dan.

[BH_Stag]

Dan you are painful. I’ve just said I also looked at Palmers first 18 games for a direct comparison, he won more games and got more points than Dempster has in his first 18.

Also, you’re therefore questioning the validity of any managers win % stats then, because they haven’t all managed an equal amount of games.

[The One]

Thing is Dan, when Demps has had a full season and been woeful throughout, what will your excuse be then?

At what point will you agree he is a terrible failure.

I'll change my mind on him if he some how sees the season out and gets to the playoffs. That's his minimum requirement, and it's pretty unlikely. Otherwise I will think of him as the worst manager I can remember, who I believe needs to be replaced ASAFP.

He makes Cartoon Palmers reign look like the glory years

[Dan]

Thing is Dan, when Demps has had a full season and been woeful throughout, what will your excuse be then?

At what point will you agree he is a terrible failure.

I'll change my mind on him if he some how sees the season out and gets to the playoffs. That's his minimum requirement, and it's pretty unlikely. Otherwise I will think of him as the worst manager I can remember, who I believe needs to be replaced ASAFP.

When it’s fair to judge him as that. In November when we’re not even halfway through the season is NOT the right time to call him that.

If we are 12-15 points adrift come January with no signs of improvement then I’d be in favour of a change. At the moment I don’t think he’s been given a proper chance yet as he’s only had 3 months worth of league games to get things right. We’ve seen already that Flitcroft struggled even more than this & so did nearly every other manager. I’d be interested to see the list of percentages of points for all our managers for the first 20 games of their managerial career just to see where JD is in the list.

[Dan]

Dan you are painful. I’ve just said I also looked at Palmers first 18 games for a direct comparison, he won more games and got more points than Dempster has in his first 18.

Also, you’re therefore questioning the validity of any managers win % stats then, because they haven’t all managed an equal amount of games.

How can you have “a direct comparison” when one has had 20 games & one had 41?! That’s like me running 100 yards & you running 1500m & me saying I’m the better runner because I finished first

[BH_Stag]

Dan you are painful. I’ve just said I also looked at Palmers first 18 games for a direct comparison, he won more games and got more points than Dempster has in his first 18.

Also, you’re therefore questioning the validity of any managers win % stats then, because they haven’t all managed an equal amount of games.

How can you have “a direct comparison” when one has had 20 games & one had 41?! That’s like me running 100 yards & you running 1500m & me saying I’m the better runner because I finished first

Am I even reading this??

Dan let me spell it out for you for the 4th time...

I looked at Carlton Palmers opening 18 games to see how he performed in comparison with John Dempsters opening 18 games (which is every league game up to now).

Palmer, won 6, attained 24 points
Dempster, won 5, attained 21 points

That is a direct comparison of their opening 18 games, not 20, not 41...18

[Cleveland_Stag]

Dan you are painful. I’ve just said I also looked at Palmers first 18 games for a direct comparison, he won more games and got more points than Dempster has in his first 18.

Also, you’re therefore questioning the validity of any managers win % stats then, because they haven’t all managed an equal amount of games.

How can you have “a direct comparison” when one has had 20 games & one had 41?! That’s like me running 100 yards & you running 1500m & me saying I’m the better runner because I finished first

Am I even reading this??

Dan let me spell it out for you for the 4th time...

I looked at Carlton Palmers opening 18 games to see how he performed in comparison with John Dempsters opening 18 games (which is every league game up to now).

Palmer, won 6, attained 24 points
Flitcroft, won 5, attained 21 points

That is a direct comparison of their opening 18 games, not 20, not 41...18

I can’t tell if Dan actually can’t understand this simple point or whether he’s just acting daft to avoid confronting a rather damming fact

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

Dan you are painful. I’ve just said I also looked at Palmers first 18 games for a direct comparison, he won more games and got more points than Dempster has in his first 18.

Also, you’re therefore questioning the validity of any managers win % stats then, because they haven’t all managed an equal amount of games.

How can you have “a direct comparison” when one has had 20 games & one had 41?! That’s like me running 100 yards & you running 1500m & me saying I’m the better runner because I finished first

Am I even reading this??

Dan let me spell it out for you for the 4th time...

I looked at Carlton Palmers opening 18 games to see how he performed in comparison with John Dempsters opening 18 games (which is every league game up to now).

Palmer, won 6, attained 24 points
Flitcroft, won 5, attained 21 points

That is a direct comparison of their opening 18 games, not 20, not 41...18

You've told us about Palmer and Flitcroft. How did Dempster do?

[BH_Stag]

Dan you are painful. I’ve just said I also looked at Palmers first 18 games for a direct comparison, he won more games and got more points than Dempster has in his first 18.

Also, you’re therefore questioning the validity of any managers win % stats then, because they haven’t all managed an equal amount of games.

How can you have “a direct comparison” when one has had 20 games & one had 41?! That’s like me running 100 yards & you running 1500m & me saying I’m the better runner because I finished first

Am I even reading this??

Dan let me spell it out for you for the 4th time...

I looked at Carlton Palmers opening 18 games to see how he performed in comparison with John Dempsters opening 18 games (which is every league game up to now).

Palmer, won 6, attained 24 points
Dempster, won 5, attained 21 points

That is a direct comparison of their opening 18 games, not 20, not 41...18

You've told us about Palmer and Flitcroft. How did Dempster do?

Apologies, I meant Dempster, now corrected

[spanishstag]

My moneys on dan ,what cant talk cant lie

[garlic]

It’s the only solution, said it time and time again, managers do not succeed once over 80% of fans want them gone.

I love it how you keep plucking these percentages out of the air. The other day it was 95% Now apparently it's 80%

Bearing in mind a lot of our fan base are on the 'older' side & don't use social media or stagsnet it's still nowhere near as much as that either. But you crack on with your fantasy figures

Read the poll, last I lòoked 89 percent want him out.

I’d be really interested to hear from someone who actually wants him still in the post.

Maybe they’re the same ones that believe Jeremy corbyn and Diane Abbott would make a good leadership team

A far more intelligent team than Boris and prit patel, both of whom are ghastly human beings and totally unfit for any public office.

[adamstag]

It’s the only solution, said it time and time again, managers do not succeed once over 80% of fans want them gone.

I love it how you keep plucking these percentages out of the air. The other day it was 95% Now apparently it's 80%

Bearing in mind a lot of our fan base are on the 'older' side & don't use social media or stagsnet it's still nowhere near as much as that either. But you crack on with your fantasy figures

Read the poll, last I lòoked 89 percent want him out.

I’d be really interested to hear from someone who actually wants him still in the post.

Maybe they’re the same ones that believe Jeremy corbyn and Diane Abbott would make a good leadership team

A far more intelligent team than Boris and prit patel, both of whom are ghastly human beings and totally unfit for any public office.

Well, neither of them are any good.

But given the tories have done what they’ve done for a decade and labour still see themselves 15 points behind in the polls is a pretty special effort

I mean, how is that even possible? Mainly corbyn and his cronies being raspberries

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

How anyone can think that Dire Abbott is intelligent is beyond me. She will be Home Secretary if Labour win a majority and that's even more frightening than Corbin being Prime Minister

We need to get the real Labour Party back from these Momentum hijackers sharpish. And yes I am from a labour background.

[Parkinsons Perm]

How anyone can think that Dire Abbott is intelligent is beyond me. She will be Home Secretary if Labour win a majority and that's even more frightening than Corbin being Prime Minister

We need to get the real Labour Party back from these Momentum hijackers sharpish. And yes I am from a labour background.

But surely this is back to the real Labour party? Left wing, Marxist idiots????

[The One]

How anyone can think that Dire Abbott is intelligent is beyond me. She will be Home Secretary if Labour win a majority and that's even more frightening than Corbin being Prime Minister

We need to get the real Labour Party back from these Momentum hijackers sharpish. And yes I am from a labour background.

But surely this is back to the real Labour party? Left wing, Marxist idiots????

Back on topic guys . Take it to politics forum

[adamstag]

How anyone can think that Dire Abbott is intelligent is beyond me. She will be Home Secretary if Labour win a majority and that's even more frightening than Corbin being Prime Minister

We need to get the real Labour Party back from these Momentum hijackers sharpish. And yes I am from a labour background.

But surely this is back to the real Labour party? Left wing, Marxist idiots????

Back on topic guys . Take it to politics forum

In fairness though pal, talking about politics or talking about stags?

That’s a challenging one

[Dan]

Dan you are painful. I’ve just said I also looked at Palmers first 18 games for a direct comparison, he won more games and got more points than Dempster has in his first 18.

Also, you’re therefore questioning the validity of any managers win % stats then, because they haven’t all managed an equal amount of games.

How can you have “a direct comparison” when one has had 20 games & one had 41?! That’s like me running 100 yards & you running 1500m & me saying I’m the better runner because I finished first

Am I even reading this??

Dan let me spell it out for you for the 4th time...

I looked at Carlton Palmers opening 18 games to see how he performed in comparison with John Dempsters opening 18 games (which is every league game up to now).

Palmer, won 6, attained 24 points
Flitcroft, won 5, attained 21 points

That is a direct comparison of their opening 18 games, not 20, not 41...18

You've told us about Palmer and Flitcroft. How did Dempster do?

Brilliant Sandy! I think I got him a bit flummoxed

Anyway we’ve come to the conclusion that between JD, Carlton Palmer & Flitcroft that none of them set the world alight in their first 18 games despite people saying Flitcroft was God & so much better than JD who is apparently so much worse than Palmer! Glad we got that sorted out.

Oh & the Tories are raspberry

[BH_Stag]

I wasn’t flummoxed Dan, just a typo, though I was having a laugh that it took you 4 attempts to understand the most basic of comparisons

Anyway, we’ve hijacked the scorethread , so to offer something by the way of that, Dempster needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat for this one. Be positive and have a go instead of waiting for them to score and then changing it.

[gazza1988]

Like him or loathe him, DF was our best shot at promotion. Evans ruled himself out of the running by jumping ship. Nobody else has come close.

Put it this way, this team has been around the promotion places for the past 2 seasons, its not changed much. JD can't even get them to convincingly win, except for Oldham but they can drop into the relegation zone with a loss tomorrow.

At the end of the day we have witnessed what this squad is capable of over the past 2 seasons. We are nowhere near that level both in terms of performance and results. That's why there's so many wanting him gone. If he had completely rebuilt the squad there would be more people giving him more time. But he hasn't. You could argue that, if anything, he's improved the squad. Gordon is a better option a RWB than Jones, Cook and Maynard to replace Walker and Ajose are very strong replacements.

This is a match thread so as for the match, I really hope JD gets them to play the way we all know they can and show Swindon up. However with the way the games have gone for most of the season, I feel that if we win, we would have nicked it rather than fully deserving it.

[oldweststander]

We will set up to grab a 1-0 win, fail again and get beaten by two clear goals at least.

Then next week we exit the FA Cup, will JD be so wonderful in Steve Hymass's and the boards rose tinted glasses then?

Get him gone and get someone in who commands footballing managerial respect, it's all too cozy at the One Call.

[Martin Shaw]

[tibby]

£10 to park. To watch 4th tier football.